Skip to comments.AP sources: Administration mulls pared health law
Posted on 06/18/2012 3:33:03 PM PDT by Perdogg
Covering all the bases ahead of a momentous Supreme Court ruling, the Obama administration plans to move ahead with major parts of the president's health care law if its most controversial provision does not survive, according to veteran Democrats closely involved with the legislation.
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So, if the court strikes down the mandate part, the administration will still proceed on giving away taxpayer-funded healthcare, but no one will be forced to pay into the system (except the dwindling base of Federal taxpayers of course). Well, that should be really great for those of us unfortunate enough to have to pay taxes.
Why don’t they just borrow some money? Isn’t that the default solution in Washington?
they need to kill the damn bill
Still stuck on stupid.
To do that you need a majority vote of both houses of Congress and the President's signature.
They should throw the whole thing out, since congress didn’t bother to sever the mandate from the rest of it.
But these days, who knows what the court will do?
No you don’t, the SCOTUS can and according to reports is inclined to strike down the whole law.
I hope your right...don’t want to see any compromise on this
Obama ignores everything that he disagrees with - whether it is the Constitution, the Congress or the Supreme Court.
What are you going to do when he steals the election?
New Executive Order: “All citizens must purchase health insurance. However, the administration will instruct the HHS and IRS not to prosecute certain demographic groups for failure to comply.”
And the press wonders why we call them liberal...and they wonder why we call them biased and more. The AP is acting in concert with people who would circumvent the protections of our constitution to realize their un-American, un-Constitutional utopian world view. I just love how they phrase it up so as to say that no matter what you know or no matter what the bill actually says and does it is good. It is OBSCENE...how they passed it is OBSCENE and un-American and Un-Constitutional...to look past this obvious and get emotional about it all (which is what they want) is ludicrous!
Wait a sec. Pelosi et al. didn’t want a piece meal deal of the ObamaCare, they dared the Supreme Court to strike it down as unconstitutional.
Now that it looks like Supremes are about to do that, Obama is still going to ram the damn bill down our throat?
Romney is “mulling” it over also. He has entirely backed away from “repealing Obamacare”, and today would not deny that he will let it stand until a “longer term plan” is put together, and “not this stop gap version” Obama has before us, kicking in December 31st at midnight.
Translation: Obamacare kicks in, in all its parts salvaged by the Supreme Court.
In states whose constitution mandates a balanced budget the expanded Medicaid program will drain their treasuries and force cuts in other public services and jobs.
Former Tennessee Gov. Bill Bredesen, a Democrat and Obama supporter, predicted ObamaCare will be a fiscal disaster. He complained that the law was formulated by people “who don't know how health care works in the real world.”
No, Romney has been clear “repeal and replace”
Scalia said they weren’t about to read 2700 pages (and pick and choose) which would be legislating from the bench. Not their job.
BO ignores Congress, the Supreme Court and the Constitution because he does it with such ease and no one lifts a finger or says a word. What is the point of having representatives of the people if they refuse to stand up for us against this boy dictator. I’m calling all my reps and senators tomorrow and request politely that they get their a@@es in gear and stand up for Americans. Pathetic that I even have to do this.
I was hoping at least one Justice would say something about the way it was passed. The bill wasn’t even completed when it was passed....and of course Pelosi’s “you have to pass it to see what’s in it”..has to go down in history as one of the stupidest statements ever......
It’s almost as if they want to find out how much ammunition we really went out and bought.
But analysts have said for months, if the mandate is struck down, the whole bill must go. But for obamma to salvage part of the bill, he is telling the judges to take out certain parts that are impossible to survive without the mandate, but keep the rest.
Will the justices follow obamma's orders?
The justices would have to read the entire bill to see what is in it, something Peloski never do, and then do due diligence, something Peloski never did. And this supposed to be responsibility of Congress.
Even had Congress included a severability clause in Obamacare, it would still be proper for SCOTUS to strike down the entire statute if it finds the individual mandate to be unconstitutional, since without the mandate Obamacare can’t possibly work, and it would be impossible for the Court to determine which of the ancillary sections (such as adding funds for healthcare for Indian tribes, etc.) would have been adopted even in the absence of Obamacare. (A severability clause, however, would have directed the Court not to strike down the entire statute had something ancillary, such as the Indian tribe provision I mentioned before, been found unconstitutional.) Let Congress determine which things it wants to keep from Obamacare’s carcass by having it pass those provisions as a separate law.
Obama and his backers never wanted the individual mandate, that was all a ploy to throw opponents off-track, it was a red herring.
What Obama wants is severability because then he gets to keep the Title IX Revenue Provisions which originates a tax on health plans and incomes, allowing for redistribution and increased government control.
Look it up, Title IX of the Act.
Obamacare was never about an ‘individual mandate’; it was always and still is about a massive tax increase on Americans to pay for utopian health benefits and more importantly to allow for increased government control.
If anyone thinks this or what may be the next administration aren’t thinking about a pared down health care plan, I think they’re blind as can be.
Romney has proven himself a person who is sympathetic to fixing the health care system.
Get government out of it. That will fix it in short order. Don’t expect either of these men to do that.
Bigger question is, will the sheeple follow his orders?
I for one WILL NOT!
F U B O!
BEHOLD A PALE HORSE!
I heard from an insurance executive today that the won plans on mandating via executive order that the states require compulsory insurance.
You forgot who you are talking about. He will just do it through executive order, because he has learned that no one will stop him.
You can “fix” things by using free market principles. McCain idea in 2008 was a good idea (endorsed by CATO).
I know, it was just a terrible sentence.
yea, that’s laughable.
Or 5 out of 9 on SCOTUS.
That won't go over so well with all the states...
I missed this. Do you happen to have a link? That way I can print it out and return it with the (tons) of McRomeny/GOP donation requests I get, daily. Thanks.
Who will stop him. He’s been the ‘EDICT CZAR’ since he took office. Lots of braying about it but no action. It just invites more impeachable actions. And he will do whatever he can to muck u things for the next guy.
SCORCHED EARTH is not a policy, it’s a loser’s side tactic and he will use it at every opportunity.
How much more damage in 140 days?(more if you count until 1/20/13)
Don’t let what I said being reasoned and soundly Conservative get in your way.
When neither man supports this, it’s quite evident that I am leading and you would do well to get out of the way.
I would agree. Otherwise the SC is into line item vetoesm. The whole is or is not constitutional. However they will describe what makes it unconstitutional - thus admin’s plans to modify law. So we must stop a new health care bill.
the illegal aliens can now apply for the 16K IRS yobs.
We need to put a stake through both this law and Obama in this years election......Never again with the Socialist agenda!
“To do that you need a majority vote of both houses of Congress and the President’s signature.”
The House can defund it!
How will he fund it? If it’s found to be unconstitutional I hope the House will finally grow a pair and defund it.
Almost-no-income is more like it. I know a man living on nothing but a $600 monthly pension. In Pennsylvania that means he is too wealthy to qualify for Medicaid. (And no, he has no significant assets, no bank accounts, no life insurance, etc.)
The last time that I took a look at the actual, signed by Obama, law there was no clause which would allow the bill to continue if parts were found unconstitutional (severability). The various draft bills had the clause but the final version did not.
So, if the Supreme Court rules any part of ObamaCare unconstitutional the whole law goes under. Otherwise, the Supreme Court would be legislating from the bench. But then, isn't this what has been happening for years?
I think that the plan is to move ahead with major parts of the laws on an individual state basis. So, blue states will implement a lot of the Obamacare bill and receive federal funding, just like Mass. does now.
The states who do not implement the state parts of the bill, won’t get any federal subsidy and the Democrats think that is a threat. I’m not sure that it is.