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Wolves maul a woman to death at a zoo in Sweden
The Sun ^ | 6/17/12 | CHRIS POLLARD

Posted on 06/17/2012 1:14:47 PM PDT by null and void

A WOMAN zookeeper was mauled to death by a pack of wolves as she fed them in their enclosure.

Eight of the wolves are thought to have surrounded and attacked the woman, who was in her 30s.

Her body was found by a colleague — but the snarling pack would not let anyone near her. Eventually brave zoo workers formed a human chain and rushed the wolves, forcing them back.

Jan Tengeborg, who organised the attempt to recover the body, said: “We couldn’t get into the enclosure because the wolves clearly did not want us in there. You can’t just walk right into a wolf pack.”

No one witnessed the attack so it is not yet clear exactly what triggered it. The dead woman has not been named.

The same pack attacked TV naturalist Arne Weise when Kolmarden Wildlife Park opened in Braviken Bay, Sweden, in 2007.

He said yesterday: “We have to stop interacting so closely with wolves. It is wrong, the risk is too great. We must recognise they are dangerous animals.”

Armed police were called to the zoo but did not open fire. Mats Höggren, director at Kolmarden — where earlier this year a girl of 15 was bitten on the leg by a wolf — said: “This is is terrible.

“She was alone in the wolves’ yard but had contact with a colleague via two-way radio.

“The colleague thought she had been gone longer than usual, so investigated and found her body.” He said the animals would not be put down.


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To: Eagles6
I didn't, once, in NM, up in the mountains at about 7000 ft. It was dark, and cold, and snow was softly falling. I did have to pee something harsh.

I did have a 1911 in my off hand, nekkid as a jaybird.

Next thing I know, the dogs rush a mountain lion that had been watching.

Scared me inside. I peed in an empty coffee can for the rest of the night and poured it outside in the morning.

There is stuff out there in the woods that is dangerous.

Best to have dogs and guns. Pants help.

/johnny

51 posted on 06/17/2012 3:01:45 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: null and void

They should’ve called Obama.

He eats dogs.


52 posted on 06/17/2012 3:02:06 PM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: null and void

Sweden? No surprise. That’s the nation with laws against men standing while urinating.


53 posted on 06/17/2012 3:03:49 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: JRandomFreeper
That was my first thought, too. Blow them away.

"The wolves did not want us there...

Good grief. And these are the heirs of the Vikings?

54 posted on 06/17/2012 3:06:04 PM PDT by livius
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To: OldNavyVet
I was thinking how brilliant Swedes are in picking Nobel Prize winners ... ceding awards to politically correct aninmals.

If you're thinking about the Nobel Peace Prize (can't imagine you're referring to a hard science prize here) - the Norwegians get to pick the 'winner' for that one. (Ironically, they tend to pick total losers...)

55 posted on 06/17/2012 3:06:54 PM PDT by Moltke (Always retaliate first.)
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To: cradle of freedom

We were on our deck at dusk when we heard what sounded like a pack of coywolves chasing through the woods about 20 -30 feet away in the underbrush. Whatever they were chasing was screaming. Loud. They also attacked our next door neighbor’s dog.

One of the pack that has come through our yard looked to be German Shepherd size, but since our deck is 8 feet off the ground it was difficult to be sure of the size and weight. Still, definitely well over 50 lbs.

The Eastern coyote (what we have here in Massachusetts) is a coywolf, a hybrid.

http://www.mass.gov/dfwele/dfw/wildlife/living/living_with_coyotes.htm


56 posted on 06/17/2012 3:13:18 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: cradle of freedom; trisham

You both live in Eastern Coyote territory. Years ago, I read a study done in New Hampshire that found the eastern coyote was a hybrid of the Eastern Timberwolf and western coyote. These coyotes vary in size and have been reported up to 80lbs. I’m guessing that the ratio of coyote to wolf in any given population depends on the prey species for that area. If they’re preying on adult deer that suggests more wolf than coyote.
BTW genus Canis will speciate through hybridization. It’s not a new observation for this genus.


57 posted on 06/17/2012 3:13:18 PM PDT by Varda
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To: GladesGuru

Freeper ScaniaBoy (another Swede) on this “fast food” situation:

Tragic - the woman should never have been there alone. Apparently it is against the zoo regulations, as well as common sense.

Apart from the instance in 2007 there has been no reports on the wolves being agressive or threatening. Under supervision visitors have been allowed inside the fence....

Most, if not all, of the animals have been bred in captivity. That does not mean that they are domestic animals, far from it, but they are used to humans, especially their handlers.

The animals will not be put down, but I expect that safety regulations will be followed stringently from now on.


58 posted on 06/17/2012 3:14:03 PM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: null and void
Don't poke the bear or give the wolf an opportunity to eat you.

Both of them will eat you, as will coyotes and housecats.

59 posted on 06/17/2012 3:14:54 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: cradle of freedom
Some years ago, I was jogging on Cape Cod in a rural area. A coyote came sauntering out of the woods and gave me the once-over. It was as if he was asking what I was doing on his turf.

My next door neighbor up there put a Hav-a-Heart cage in his yard one night, hoping to trap a raccoon which to take to the next village over and release the beast. One night, the cage was at the tree line, mangled. The only thing in the cage was a squirrel with his little paws chewed off. Coyotes are not to be messed with.

60 posted on 06/17/2012 3:19:28 PM PDT by Ax (You've got to hand it to Venus de Milo.)
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To: elkfersupper
and housecats.

Great. I knew that, but the reminder will keep me awake all night. Roasting coffee so I can brew it later...

/johnny

61 posted on 06/17/2012 3:21:09 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: null and void; Tax-chick

We have coywolves living here on the training center, two breeding pairs. Fish and wildlife spent all of last week trying to shoot them with no success. Apparently they aren’t that dumb, just like everyone on base thought.
I saw one of them a couple months ago - had to weigh over 50 pounds. Big coyote.


62 posted on 06/17/2012 3:21:47 PM PDT by Anoreth (It's not a great party until someone loses rank.)
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To: BigBobber

I used to be a zookeeper, and yes I cared deeply for the animals I worked with.

But I followed safety protocols. Only a fool goes into a wolf pack unprotected and alone.


63 posted on 06/17/2012 3:23:34 PM PDT by gitmo ( If your theology doesn't become your biography it's useless.)
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To: ScaniaBoy
Most, if not all, of the animals have been bred in captivity. That does not mean that they are domestic animals, far from it, but they are used to humans, especially their handlers.

That's the problem.

64 posted on 06/17/2012 3:23:58 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
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To: Ax
Coyotes are not to be messed with.

Lets us play. When they get opposable thumbs, I'll show a little respect.

Until then? They are pelts that need cleaned.

/johnny

65 posted on 06/17/2012 3:23:58 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Varda; cradle of freedom
You both live in Eastern Coyote territory. Years ago, I read a study done in New Hampshire that found the eastern coyote was a hybrid of the Eastern Timberwolf and western coyote. These coyotes vary in size and have been reported up to 80lbs. I’m guessing that the ratio of coyote to wolf in any given population depends on the prey species for that area. If they’re preying on adult deer that suggests more wolf than coyote.

BTW genus Canis will speciate through hybridization. It’s not a new observation for this genus.

**************************

My husband went beyond the old stone wall at the back of our property last week and found bear scat. We have had a black bear visiting our front yard, and finally gave up on our bird feeders.

We live in central MA, cradle of freedom, on five acres that backs up to hundreds of acres of privately owned, wooded land. Most of our land is wooded and untouched, at least by us. We have a six foot chain link fence around about a quarter acre of our back "yard", for our dogs.

66 posted on 06/17/2012 3:24:19 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
I had a rather rude acquaintance with the fact that I was not necessarily at the top of the food chain in the Gila Wilderness of NM in the late '80's - early '90's.

There are bear, cougars and wolves out there.

Learned my lesson.

67 posted on 06/17/2012 3:27:26 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: elkfersupper
I wasn't completely sober. I was completely nekkid. It was snowing and below 0C.

But I DID have a firearm in the off hand, and the dogs were watching out for me. Didn't step far off the porch, and I learned my lesson.

Getting me to wear pants on a regular basis? Meh. It's warm here. ;)

/johnny

68 posted on 06/17/2012 3:32:01 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: fwdude

Even the gentler animals in zoos have to be treated carefully. Zookeepers often get seriously injured by giraffes. These placid animals are incredibly clumsy and can accidentally kick your brains out. I never had the privilege of working with giraffes, but I’m told they give this goofy “gee, did I do that?” look at the human they just eviscerated with an errant swipe of that long leg.


69 posted on 06/17/2012 3:35:22 PM PDT by gitmo ( If your theology doesn't become your biography it's useless.)
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To: Inyo-Mono
That's the problem.

In the wild, yes. But in captivity it is an advantage if the animals don't feel threatened by the keepers. The dangerous situations often occur when the animals are afraid and don't feel they have anywhere to escape. However, there are situations where the animals attack unprovoked, maybe because they want to assert their dominance, something that soon can turn into hunting/killing behaviour.

70 posted on 06/17/2012 3:37:46 PM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: gitmo
Yes. From Wikipedia:

The giraffe is noted for its extremely long neck and legs, as well as its horn-like ossicones. It stands 5–6 m (16–20 ft) tall and has an average weight of 1,600 kg (3,500 lb) for males and 830 kg (1,800 lb) for females.

Even a gentle nudge could be lethal.

71 posted on 06/17/2012 3:44:32 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Inyo-Mono

Moochelle’s picture turned out very well on that book’s cover, I think.


72 posted on 06/17/2012 3:45:58 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: Zhang Fei
Instead of shooting the wolves, they watched passively as she was mauled to death.
In Aristotelian logic, the efficient cause of her death was wolf-pack behavior, while the final cause was a society that values animals above humans.

Since she undoubtedly shared the values of that society (I would assign the probability of her sharing those values at 99%), then we are almost forced to say that she got what she deserved.

73 posted on 06/17/2012 3:47:35 PM PDT by samtheman (If we want Obamugabe out, we must vote him out.)
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To: elkfersupper; Darksheare
Both of them will eat you, as will coyotes and housecats.

In defense of housecats, they usually won't kill you first...

74 posted on 06/17/2012 3:49:35 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1244 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama is not a Big Brother [he's a Big Sissy...])
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To: ScaniaBoy
Or, sometimes predators are just predators.

No need to explain it any further or fancier than that.

75 posted on 06/17/2012 3:50:52 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: trisham

It’s good the dogs have a fence to protect them. Wolves and coyotes try to kill them when they can. We have a fence for our dogs too. Bears have moved into our suburban area (western PA) and I want a little security that they won’t become bear food.


76 posted on 06/17/2012 3:51:47 PM PDT by Varda
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To: null and void
In defense of housecats, they usually won't kill you first...

Yes. They won't eat you unless you remain inert and unresponsive through a couple of feeding cycles.

77 posted on 06/17/2012 3:53:08 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: AnAmericanMother; Titan Magroyne; Badeye; SandRat; arbooz; potlatch; afraidfortherepublic; ...
WOOOF!

The Doggie Ping list is for FReepers who would like to be notified of threads relating to all things canid. If you would like to join the Doggie Ping Pack (or be unleashed from it), FReemail me.

78 posted on 06/17/2012 3:53:32 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Varda

The coyotes that I have seen are bigger than foxes and have somewhat long legs. I always that the coyotes were just a little bigger than foxes. The animal officers in town tell people to just keep away from them and they will not harm you.


79 posted on 06/17/2012 3:59:04 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: Varda
It’s good the dogs have a fence to protect them. Wolves and coyotes try to kill them when they can. We have a fence for our dogs too. Bears have moved into our suburban area (western PA) and I want a little security that they won’t become bear food.

*************************

The original intent of the fence was to keep the dogs in the yard. I now see it equally as a method of keeping other animals out. :)

I love living here, but it does require a firm footing in reality. Wild animals may be beautiful, but we must never forget that they may also be extremely, if not fatally, dangerous.

80 posted on 06/17/2012 4:00:37 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I don’t have any coyotes down here. We have a lot of small varmint, snakes and we’re not far from a LOT of big gators.


81 posted on 06/17/2012 4:01:19 PM PDT by Ax (You've got to hand it to Venus de Milo.)
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To: null and void
In defense of housecats, they usually won't kill you first...

They will, however, lick your eyelids to determine your death state.

Been there, done that.

/johnny

82 posted on 06/17/2012 4:02:09 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: null and void
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83 posted on 06/17/2012 4:02:20 PM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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To: cradle of freedom

It depends how big you are. The bigger they are the bigger their prey will be but even smaller coyotes can kill (and have done so) small children.


84 posted on 06/17/2012 4:03:31 PM PDT by Varda
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To: null and void

*sheesh*

How stupid can people be?

Since I was reared in the West, I was taught to respect wildlife, but also not to be stupid about approaching any wild species.

Had it been me, I would have gone into the compound with a .357 sidearm, “just in case.”

So shoot me.


85 posted on 06/17/2012 4:03:38 PM PDT by Monkey Face (Be yourself. Everyone else is taken!)
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To: Monkey Face
How stupid can people be?

Since I was reared in the West, I was taught to respect wildlife, but also not to be stupid about approaching any wild species.

Had it been me, I would have gone into the compound with a .357 sidearm, “just in case.”

So shoot me.

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Me too, but I doubt that was an option in Sweden. I could be wrong..

86 posted on 06/17/2012 4:06:26 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: OldNavyVet; null and void

Darwin Awards are hovering in the netherworld, waiting for the Muy Estupidos!


87 posted on 06/17/2012 4:07:53 PM PDT by Monkey Face (Be yourself. Everyone else is taken!)
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To: trisham

We have lots of the Coywolves here in NW Connecticut. Unattended dogs are often snatched away and eaten. My next door neighbors dog was a recent victim. They are very large. I walked up to one that had been hit by a car on a side road. It was quite impressive. You can hear the packs at night, which is kind of spooky. I would not walk alone in the woods without my trusty P40, escpecially at night when they are hunting. We have Mountain Lions and Black Bears as well.


88 posted on 06/17/2012 4:16:01 PM PDT by kneehurts
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To: Ax
Yeah... We don't have many large critters down here either.... Most are gone now.

You got Gators? Yum. I have recipes. Lotta meat.

/johnny

89 posted on 06/17/2012 4:16:58 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: trisham

Sweden is too liberal to pay any attention to...*blech*


90 posted on 06/17/2012 4:16:58 PM PDT by Monkey Face (Be yourself. Everyone else is taken!)
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To: Monkey Face
So shoot me.

I might not try that, thanks.

/johnny

91 posted on 06/17/2012 4:18:49 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: kneehurts

We have quite a few cowwolves here in Illinois. Many a farmer gets up in the morning to milk the family cow- and he’s never seen again. The wife or kids go out looking for him and all they find is an empty stool, an upturned bucket and a cowwolf with a smirk on its face.


92 posted on 06/17/2012 4:22:39 PM PDT by Krankor
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To: trisham

Sweden is too liberal to allow sidearms. Which is why Muslims like the place...but you didn’t hear it from ME!


93 posted on 06/17/2012 4:31:06 PM PDT by Monkey Face (Be yourself. Everyone else is taken!)
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To: null and void

That’s why they’re called wild animals.


94 posted on 06/17/2012 4:32:53 PM PDT by Rytas
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To: JRandomFreeper

Thanks! Life is GOOD!


95 posted on 06/17/2012 4:34:27 PM PDT by Monkey Face (Be yourself. Everyone else is taken!)
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To: Eva
We have two huge packs of Eastern Coyotes raoming the foothills of the Berkshires here in central/western Massachusetts. One is around 20-to-25 animals, the other well over 30.

They hunt continuously (and very effectively) as packs. The sound they make doing so is like someone forgot and left open the Gates of Hell.

Books are okay, but they aren't infallible.

96 posted on 06/17/2012 4:34:55 PM PDT by Gargantua ("Barack O'Bunga--America's first gay president...")
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To: Monkey Face
Seems contra-indicated. Just my reading of the local sign, and I'm just a cook. Nope. Not gonna go there and get to looking like swiss cheese.

/johnny

97 posted on 06/17/2012 4:43:19 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Krankor
And later that night, I tip them.

/johnny

98 posted on 06/17/2012 4:47:08 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Gargantua
The sound they make doing so is like someone forgot and left open the Gates of Hell.

Granted, I'm a man that pees outside, sans accoutrement, and all of that... But if you open the door and yell at them to shut-the-hell-up!

They do.

For a minute.

And then you can sic the dogs on 'em.

Go figure.

/johnny

99 posted on 06/17/2012 4:52:25 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
>snip<......"I didn't, once, in NM, up in the mountains at about 7000 ft. It was dark, and cold, and snow was softly falling. I did have to pee something harsh.
I did have a 1911 in my off hand, nekkid as a jaybird."
...>snip<

If it was cold, why were you nekkid?

Glad you survived that mountain lion.

100 posted on 06/17/2012 4:55:28 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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