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How Al Qaeda executioners were captured by SAS using Bisto granules
Daily Mail ^ | 17th June 2012 | Mark Nicol and Ian Gallagher

Posted on 06/17/2012 8:20:22 AM PDT by the scotsman

'They killed with apparent impunity, effortlessly dodging capture by the world’s deadliest special forces.

Nothing, it seemed, could stop Al Qaeda’s two top Iraqi terrorists as they orchestrated a campaign of high-profile kidnappings, car bombings and executions in Baghdad and beyond.

At the height of their reign, one of them, Maher Ahmed Mahmoud az-Zubeidi, better known by his alias Abu Rami, was believed to have been responsible for the murders of 200 people each month.

Yet perhaps even more ferocious was his charismatic co-leader, Abu Uthman, whose exploits in two battles in Fallujah earned him the nickname Abu Nimr – The Tiger.

The American military bestowed on him a more prosaic title: Number One HVI (high-value individual).

Uthman was linked to the murder of British aid worker Margaret Hassan and the kidnapping of British peace activist Norman Kember and – like Rami – had the blood of hundreds of soldiers and civilians on his hands.

But by mid-2008, despite years of trying, US special forces were still no nearer tracing either of the men who, helped by a vast network of supporters, rarely slept in the same beds for longer than a few weeks.

The Russians were also searching. Rami was blamed for the beheading of four embassy workers abducted from a diplomatic car in Baghdad and Vladimir Putin put a £7 million price on his head and a team of assassins on his tail.

Until today the true extent of the Al Qaeda men’s murderous influence has never been revealed and neither has the extraordinary story of how they were eventually stopped.

The Mail on Sunday can disclose that it was not US special forces who finally killed Rami and captured Uthman – as was reported at the time by The Washington Post – but the SAS.'

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: abunimr; aburami; abuuthman; alsatian; azzubeidi; fallujah; hassan; humanshields; iraq; iraqiterrorists; kidnappings; margarethassan; normankember; pootiepoot; putin; rami; sas; thetiger; threwthepooch; uk; uthman; vladimirputin; zubeidi
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1 posted on 06/17/2012 8:20:26 AM PDT by the scotsman
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To: the scotsman
All’s well that ends well. It really doesn't matter who killed the monster, just that the monster is dead.

Bravo to the SAS or whoever did the deed.

2 posted on 06/17/2012 8:25:57 AM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: the scotsman

The SAS has an incredible history along with its sister/brother units. It’s “who dares wins” as their moto says. Excellent work.


3 posted on 06/17/2012 8:28:24 AM PDT by mcshot (God bless the USA! OMG PLEASE vote ABO or OWW and our Country dies.)
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To: the scotsman; Robert357; mcshot

‘Bisto is a well-known brand of traditional British foods in the United Kingdom, most famous for its gravy products.’

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bisto


4 posted on 06/17/2012 8:35:48 AM PDT by the scotsman (I)
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To: the scotsman
Wearing a flowing cotton shirt, and carrying a child in one arm, the man shuffled slowly and silently towards a gate and the front of the compound...suddenly the man raised his hidden arm to reveal a pistol.

Typical.

5 posted on 06/17/2012 8:37:15 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: the scotsman

How many “Sargeant A’s” are there in US special forces?

Given that he needed skin-tanning, I assume he’s a gringo. But having the language ability and cultural knowledge that would allow him to pass as a local Iraqi car merchant? Quite impressive.


6 posted on 06/17/2012 8:37:21 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: the scotsman; All
thanks, for the post. :-D
.. encourage all to read whole article, great read. :-D
why!..must we go to foreign news sources?< r>..too many O'Bozo @$$-ki$$er$ in the US Press.

7 posted on 06/17/2012 8:39:29 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (WA DC E$tabli$hment; DNC/RNC/Unionists...Brazilian saying: "$@me Old $hit; different flie$". :^)
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To: the scotsman; All
thanks, for the post. :-D
.. encourage all to read whole article, great read. :-D
why!..must we go to foreign news sources?
..too many O'Bozo @$$-ki$$er$ in the US Press.

8 posted on 06/17/2012 8:40:45 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (WA DC E$tabli$hment; DNC/RNC/Unionists...Brazilian saying: "$@me Old $hit; different flie$". :^)
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To: the scotsman
Has 0bama claimed credit for this yet?

They were armed with short-barrelled machine guns and carried alsatian dogs. The remaining windows were smashed and the dogs thrown inside.

Scaling down a building while holding a dog takes some skill. Smashing the window while holding the dog and then tossing the dog in takes even more skill. BTW, I had to look up Alsatian to see what kind of dog it is. It is a German Shepherd, just a different name.

9 posted on 06/17/2012 8:54:16 AM PDT by BBell (And Now for Something Completely Different)
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To: the scotsman
I like this part:

Suddenly SAS troopers dressed in black kit scaled the rooftop and swung down.

They were armed with short-barrelled machine guns and carried alsatian dogs. The remaining windows were smashed and the dogs thrown inside.

10 posted on 06/17/2012 8:59:04 AM PDT by BigBobber
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To: BenLurkin

“Wearing a flowing cotton shirt,...”

Sounds very spiritual doesn’t it. The Leftists in the media do whatever they can to suck up to the Muzzies.

I just call it a dirty night shirt.


11 posted on 06/17/2012 9:04:51 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: the scotsman
I am a big dude, grew up as the only white kid in the hood, played football through college, played hockey until my mid 30s, and have hundreds of fights under my belt.

Carrying Alsatians while fast roping off a roof in the middle of that Hellhole??????

Blessed Mother, please, please, please don't ever let me piss off one of those little Spector guys. I don't want my big ass knocked out by someone who weighs a buck fifty

12 posted on 06/17/2012 9:06:05 AM PDT by MattinNJ (Romney? Really? Seriously?)
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To: MattinNJ

Sigh. Spector=specfor


13 posted on 06/17/2012 9:07:10 AM PDT by MattinNJ (Romney? Really? Seriously?)
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To: MattinNJ

Those wiry guys will kick your ass every time.


14 posted on 06/17/2012 9:31:04 AM PDT by meatloaf (Support Senate S 1863 & House Bill 1380 to eliminate oil slavery.)
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To: BBell
I had to look up Alsatian to see what kind of dog it is. It is a German Shepherd, just a different name.

Evidently the breed is from the Alsace (Elsass) region. Therefore it's a GermanFrenchGermanFrenchGermanFrench Shepherd.

15 posted on 06/17/2012 9:41:14 AM PDT by Erasmus (BHO: New supreme leader of the homey rollin' empire.)
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To: BigBobber

The dogs were shot and Obama had them for lunch.


16 posted on 06/17/2012 9:42:58 AM PDT by Sea Parrot (Youth And Brawn Are No Match For Age And Treachery. I'm Old And May Not Fight. I'll Shoot Instead.)
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To: the scotsman

“Suddenly SAS troopers dressed in black kit scaled the rooftop and swung down.

They were armed with short-barrelled machine guns and carried alsatian dogs. The remaining windows were smashed and the dogs thrown inside.”

These dudes mean business.


17 posted on 06/17/2012 9:45:20 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

I bet those Moslems were getting major backside pant stains when a pack of trained SAS dogs were let loose.

Kinda reminds me of a sci-fi book I read where it was that humanity was given the gift of the canine species from another planet to eventually become earths savior when a dreaded enemy sweeps across the planet. This alien enemy feared the dogs more so than any weapon the humans possessed, plus the dogs had a secret weapon or two.


18 posted on 06/17/2012 9:55:33 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (Islamoprogressivenists need not reply.)
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To: the scotsman

I didn’t know a alsatian dog is the same as a German Shepherd


19 posted on 06/17/2012 9:56:00 AM PDT by jyro (French-like Democrats wave the white flag of surrender while we are winning)
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To: Robert357
It really doesn't matter who killed the monster,

Obama told them how to do it.

20 posted on 06/17/2012 10:21:42 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: meatloaf

Yeah, believe me, I know. So far I have avoided having a triathlete looking down on me while thinking “knocking out that big dude made me look real good” :-)


21 posted on 06/17/2012 10:37:56 AM PDT by MattinNJ (Romney? Really? Seriously?)
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To: Erasmus

Somehow a French Shepard guard dog just doesn’t inspire fear.


22 posted on 06/17/2012 10:43:30 AM PDT by Hugin ("Most times a man'll tell you his bad intentions, if you listen and let yourself hear."---Open Range)
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To: Eye of Unk

I remember another sci-fi story where aliens come to earth to establish peaceful relations. Everything is going well, but the ship telepath approaches the commander and suggests they are dealing with the wrong species. He bleives dogs are telepathically controlling humans. He points out that humans work long hours to provide homes and food for dogs, pamper them, and treat them like family. Moreover, he is somehow blocked from reading their minds. And the humans even gave them a pair of dogs to take back to their world. The commader dismisses his concerns as crazy.

The telepath decides to wait to bring it up when they get back rather than continue to argue with his commander. As he goes to look out the open door of the spaceship before it’s closed for takeoff, one of the dogs runs under his feet, he trips and falls to his death. The story ends with the ship heading home, and the commander bending down to scratch the ear of the dog laying at his feet.


23 posted on 06/17/2012 10:59:07 AM PDT by Hugin ("Most times a man'll tell you his bad intentions, if you listen and let yourself hear."---Open Range)
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To: Hugin
Somehow a French Shepard guard dog just doesn’t inspire fear.

je me rends


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24 posted on 06/17/2012 11:07:42 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (I like to think of FreeRepublic as the new White Horse Inn - FReeper Springfield Reformer)
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To: the scotsman

Bisto gravy is enough to kill anyone.


25 posted on 06/17/2012 11:25:28 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: miss marmelstein

Oi!.
Nothing wrong with Bisto.


26 posted on 06/17/2012 11:57:36 AM PDT by the scotsman (I)
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To: the scotsman; miss marmelstein

If American, he might have used Kitchen Bouquet.


27 posted on 06/17/2012 11:58:43 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: the scotsman

Oy!
I hate Bisto!


28 posted on 06/17/2012 11:58:43 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: miss marmelstein

My English-born wife loves Bisto. She doesn’t have to special order it from England anymore since a local grocery store sells it. For her it’s nothing but Bisto. Bisto is alright, but I like all sorts of gravy brands. I just wish they’d sell Vimto over here.


29 posted on 06/17/2012 11:59:19 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: miss marmelstein

Why?.

70% of the UK uses it and its been popular for over 100 years. I use it. Bisto is perfectly fine stuff.


30 posted on 06/17/2012 12:00:01 PM PDT by the scotsman (I)
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To: driftless2

Vimto, I don’t know. I have Maggai on my shelves and I don’t like that either (pure salt).

I recommend everyone read Nigel Slater’s fun book “Eating for England,” in which he writes about his love-hate relationship to Bisto (and other British food items). The book has a gorgeous photo of Brighton Rock on the cover.


31 posted on 06/17/2012 12:20:25 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: the scotsman

It’s just that I make my gravy from scratch. I do use Bird’s Custard to thicken my gravy. A trick I learned from my cooking and fashion idol, Nigella Lawson.


32 posted on 06/17/2012 12:22:23 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: the scotsman

Still think there should be a 20 year wait before releasing any info.


33 posted on 06/17/2012 12:31:23 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: miss marmelstein

Hmmm, I’ve never heard of Bird’s Custard. Who carries it?


34 posted on 06/17/2012 12:49:33 PM PDT by tillacum
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To: tillacum

It’s a British product. A & P carries it and so does Wegman’s (here on the East Coast). It’s almost pure cornstarch and works perfectly well in gravy if you run out of flour.


35 posted on 06/17/2012 12:59:49 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: BigBobber
Most likely, the unedited version read: They were armed with short-barrelled machine guns and carried alsatian dogs who hadn't eaten in a week.
36 posted on 06/17/2012 1:02:25 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Erasmus
Evidently the breed is from the Alsace (Elsass) region. Therefore it's a GermanFrenchGermanFrenchGermanFrench Shepherd.

Those french will sleep with anybody . . .

37 posted on 06/17/2012 1:44:23 PM PDT by Petruchio (I Think . . . Therefor I FReep.)
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To: miss marmelstein

Ah, Nigella.

I am too busy masturbating to pay attention to what she says. LOL.


38 posted on 06/17/2012 2:01:54 PM PDT by the scotsman (I)
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To: miss marmelstein

Brighton Rock.

Also a classic novel and one of the greatest British films ever made.

A classic example of British ‘film noir’ (which despite its French name, has become wrongly identified as purely an American form of cinema, the British made some brilliant films in the genre for over 20 years).


39 posted on 06/17/2012 2:05:07 PM PDT by the scotsman (I)
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To: tillacum

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bird’s_Custard
http://www.birdscustard.co.uk/


40 posted on 06/17/2012 2:21:01 PM PDT by the scotsman (I)
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To: skinkinthegrass

If US forces had done the deed commander zero would have taken full credit.


41 posted on 06/17/2012 2:22:38 PM PDT by Eagles6 (S)
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To: the scotsman

l. Richard Attenborough gives a truly shocking performance in that movie. Shocking film as well. I have the book sitting on my coffee table as I write.

2. But the Americans perfected the art of the film noir.

3. And as far as Nigella, scotsman: TMI!


42 posted on 06/17/2012 2:34:41 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: miss marmelstein

1—I would, as a very passionate British film fan, be happy to recommend classic British films (as well as classic European films) or to answer any questions on UK films.

I hope you mean shocking in the good sense, not as the word that comes before bad. LOL.

2—True. I love American film noir as well. But we made some great ones, which tends to be forgotten even by film critics in this country.

3-Joking. I do drool though.


43 posted on 06/17/2012 2:51:02 PM PDT by the scotsman (I)
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Brighton Rock is a brilliant film but it IS shocking. I did not expect that climax and completely freaked out at that recording. Richard Attenborough started out playing the worst kind of villian and ended up playing Santa Claus. A very great actor. Also, I love the exterior shots of Brighton in the 1940s.

I know most of the great British films. I’ve seen ‘em all. I go to London theatre every year to see some of the most amazing actors in both classical and modern plays.

I’ll forgive you for the Nigella remark. But will I forgive Nigella for losing all that Rubenesque weight that made her so appealing? I think not!!


44 posted on 06/17/2012 3:22:42 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: the scotsman

No, I think Brighton Rock is brilliant. It was just upsetting - as it was intended to be. I love the exterior shots of Brighton and Attenborough gives a deeply unsettling performance. Hard to believe, since I’ve always heard he is a very nice man.

I’ll forgive you for the Nigella remark but will I forgive Nigella for losing all that Rubensesque weight which made her so appealing? I think not!!


45 posted on 06/17/2012 3:29:38 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: Eagles6
"commander zero would have taken full credit."
he'll take credit, give it time.

46 posted on 06/17/2012 3:55:50 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (WA DC E$tabli$hment; DNC/RNC/Unionists...Brazilian saying: "$@me Old $hit; different flie$". :^)
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To: miss marmelstein

I was joking about the self-abuse.

Lovely Nigella has become an erotic icon for UK men, and the national joke is that we blokes watch the programme with the sound down, that her show has become almost semi-porn for men. She could be cooking babies and we wouldnt care. All that licking of spoons and most British men need a cold shower.


47 posted on 06/17/2012 6:18:07 PM PDT by the scotsman (I)
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To: miss marmelstein

Vimto is a fruit-flavored, carbonated soft drink. Nothing like it in the States.


48 posted on 06/17/2012 6:19:52 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: Hugin

>Somehow a French Shepard guard dog just doesn’t inspire fear.<

Here is a Beauceron, or French shepherd, doing guard work the way the French teach it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d04VPQ7-cQ8&feature=related

He looks pretty frightening and he’s sure not scared off easily.

Here are a couple of videos showing French dog training: (Note the very first grip this dog, trained with French methods, takes)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VX9g0i5pGEI&feature=related

And here is a French Ring sport championship:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJiapCG62qE&feature=related


49 posted on 06/17/2012 6:28:00 PM PDT by Darnright ("I don't trust liberals, I trust conservatives." - Lucius Annaeus Seneca)
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To: driftless2

“Izze” carbonated fruit juice from Cosco is the closest to Vimto in the States.


50 posted on 06/17/2012 7:10:45 PM PDT by balls (0 lies like a Muslim (Google "taqiyya"))
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