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Shiner (Texas) beating death victim name released
Victoria (Texas) Advocate ^ | June 15, 2012

Posted on 06/16/2012 1:19:03 AM PDT by Zakeet

Lavaca County authorities on Friday identified the 47-year-old man who was caught molesting a girl and then beaten to death by the child's father.

Jesus Mora Flores was killed on the afternoon of June 9 on a rural farm pasture on County Road 302 between Shiner and Yoakum.

In a press release issued Friday, authorities said Flores was attempting to sexually assault the girl, whose age was corrected by officials Friday to be 5 years old.

"When emergency medical personnel arrived, Jesus Mora Flores' pants and underwear were down and the man's genitals were exposed," said Lavaca County Sheriff Micah Harmon, who was quoted in a press released issued by District Attorney Heather McMinn.

Flores had been hired by the child's father to care for horses on the property, according to a neighbor.

A public records search shows no permanent address for Flores in Lavaca County.

The press release also confirms that law enforcement officials discovered a witness to the attacks, but does not identify that person.

Investigators found that "a witness observed Jesus Mora Flores forcibly carrying a 5-year-old child off to a secluded area, the witness ran for help and alerted the child's father."

The father then heard the child's scream and ran to help her, the release said. The father then "immediately removed Jesus Mora Flores from on top of his child" and inflicted "several blows" to the man's head and neck area.

The release stated that all of the physical evidence and witness statements in the case corroborated the father's statement.

Harmon said Flores was not in the United States illegally and possessed a permanent resident card - more widely known as a green card.

The sheriff said his office has been working with Mexican Consulate officials to locate Flores' family.

Complete results of the autopsy conducted in Travis County are not expected for several weeks.

Harmon said the girl's family and father have cooperated with authorities.

McMinn said in the press release that Harmon "made the right decision in not arresting the father at the time of the incident."

The girl's father remains remorseful about Flores' death, said Harmon, who said he expects a grand jury to hear the case next week.

"This case has been very traumatizing on the child, her father and his entire family," he said.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: crime; deadlyforce; dontmesswithtexas; jesusflores; rape; shiner; texas
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For the benefit of Libtards everywhere, it should be noted that:

  1. This case has nothing whatsoever to do with handguns.

  2. This case has nothing whatsoever to do with stand your ground.

  3. This case has nothing whatsoever to do with self-defense.

  4. This case has everything to do with stopping a green card pervert from raping a five year old girl.

  5. Texas statutes expressly permit the use of deadly force to: prevent the ... imminent commission of aggravated kidnapping, murder, sexual assault, aggravated sexual assault, robbery, or aggravated robbery.

  6. This law protects citizens by deterring crime and stopping crime in progress.

  7. This law saves the taxpayers money.

  8. This law is one of many things that makes Texas a special place.

Sorry for the rant, but I figured that if newsers and other idiots want to whine about Texas justice, they might as well start with a few facts ... not that it will make much of a difference.

1 posted on 06/16/2012 1:19:20 AM PDT by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet

Dad did what Dads should do

Hope he has a peaceful Father’s Day somehow


2 posted on 06/16/2012 1:26:07 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Zakeet

Maddening how perp is ID’d in headline as beating victim. He is a criminal of the worst kind, not a victim


3 posted on 06/16/2012 1:27:51 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

Death alone is far, far too good for this monster. I hope that hell gives him no rest.


4 posted on 06/16/2012 1:32:16 AM PDT by Bullish
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To: Zakeet
Correct that the law covers the use of force to prevent commission of the crimes mentioned. However, the father had pulled the scum off of his daughter through the use of force and stopped the commission of the crime. At that point, technically, he should of stopped. He is legally vulnerable for each blow he threw afterward.

That being said, I find it unlikely that a grand jury in Texas would indict and there is no way a trial jury would convict. Rightfully so for he did, as others have mentioned, what a father should do.

5 posted on 06/16/2012 1:39:49 AM PDT by Ophiucus
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To: Ophiucus

Agreed; but my vote on the jury would be ‘not guilty’ whatever the charge against dad.


6 posted on 06/16/2012 1:50:18 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: Ophiucus
He is legally vulnerable for each blow he threw afterward

Can't agree.
There is such a thing as "heat of battle."

7 posted on 06/16/2012 2:10:11 AM PDT by stormhill
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To: Zakeet

You tell ‘em, Zakeet!


8 posted on 06/16/2012 2:19:57 AM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: Zakeet; All

People have to know that Mexico and Central America are societies in deep moral crisis at this point in history. Males, unanchored by family, are a danger. My own cousin’s bride was attacked and killed in her home by such a depraved Salvadoran “refugee” who was hired out of compassion. I’m Latina and I say be cautious and skeptical because these individuals are not operating under the same assumptions about defenseless women and children.


9 posted on 06/16/2012 2:23:16 AM PDT by Havisham
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To: Ophiucus

...Jury nullification...


10 posted on 06/16/2012 2:46:38 AM PDT by maine yankee (I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
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To: Ophiucus

I stand with the father.


11 posted on 06/16/2012 2:52:23 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Ophiucus
"At that point, technically, he should of stopped. He is legally vulnerable for each blow he threw afterward."

The father had no way of knowing if, the scumbag, deprived of his raging lustful satiation, might turn, enraged, beat the father unconscious, and then continue to rape his child. The only way to be sure that this rape was ended was to either restrain (bind) the attacker, or, absent the implements needed to accomplish this, render him unconscious.

None of which takes into account the father's immediate frame of mind upon seeing his kidnapped child about to be sexually savaged by this animal. Striking out to defend his innocent in an immediate flash of righteous anger is only human, should be expected, and would never be found by a jury as grounds for a finding of pre-meditated malicious intent.

I could act as counsel for this Texas dad in 100 such cases and win every single one of them. Except that only an idiot prosecutor would ever bring such a case before a jury. Or a judge.

;-\

12 posted on 06/16/2012 2:55:14 AM PDT by Gargantua ("Barack O'Bunga--America's first gay president...")
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To: Zakeet

Give the dad a medal.


13 posted on 06/16/2012 2:56:41 AM PDT by FES0844
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To: Ophiucus

Also disagree...the father merely identified the threat to his daughter’s well being and eliminated it. That’s what he should have done. The sexual abuse law had been violated, and dad put an end to it.


14 posted on 06/16/2012 3:04:57 AM PDT by Fireone (Patriots, not politicians! No more liberals!)
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To: Zakeet

Guess what?
With our Kenyan POTUS we now have MILLIONS MORE MEHHICCAN criminals allowed to stay!


15 posted on 06/16/2012 3:12:51 AM PDT by Flintlock (THE TRUTH: It's the new hate speech..)
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To: Zakeet

Sadly, this is going to happen much more often because of what Obama did yesterday.


16 posted on 06/16/2012 3:21:09 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Zakeet

The libs forget that TX is a very big law and order place.


17 posted on 06/16/2012 3:23:10 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Ophiucus

At that point, technically, he should of stopped. He is legally vulnerable for each blow he threw afterward.

*******

I’ve yet to see any evidence that he pulled him off the kid *then* started punching him. Its quite likely the perp started fighting back the moment dad got his hands on him, justifying the use of force.

Not that I would convict him even if he’d taken a few shots after he’d pulled the pervert off the kid. This is one case in which the much maligned “temporary insanity” defense would be absolutely justified.

I can’t think of msny things capable of causing someone to temporarily lose their reason as witnessing your own child in the process of being molested by some sh*tbag with his pants around his ankles.

Just the thought of it is enough to raise anyones blood pressure a few points.


18 posted on 06/16/2012 3:28:16 AM PDT by gzzimlich
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To: Venturer

As do I. The father, was being a father. No crime in that,


19 posted on 06/16/2012 3:36:31 AM PDT by BornToBeAmerican (Things aren't as good as they should be and its Obama's fault, the resident said)
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To: Ophiucus

“At that point, technically, he should of stopped. “

Umm no


20 posted on 06/16/2012 3:45:17 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Zakeet
"When emergency medical personnel arrived, Jesus Mora Flores' pants and underwear were down and the man's genitals were exposed," said Lavaca County Sheriff Micah Harmon, who was quoted in a press released issued by District Attorney Heather McMinn.

Since his genitals were still attached, I would say the father exercised extreme restraint.

21 posted on 06/16/2012 3:51:42 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: Zakeet

Other states might want to emulate Texas. So yes, it is important to make it clear.


22 posted on 06/16/2012 4:10:51 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: maine yankee
...Jury nullification...

True...If the Father broke the law, the law is flawed and should be ignored...

23 posted on 06/16/2012 4:13:04 AM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: SeaHawkFan

I’d never convict the father. Saved the TX prison system money.


24 posted on 06/16/2012 4:14:11 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: Ophiucus; All
However, the father had pulled the scum off of his daughter through the use of force and stopped the commission of the crime. At that point, technically, he should of stopped. He is legally vulnerable for each blow he threw afterward.

I must disagree. At the point where the pulled the subject off his daughter, he had no way of knowing what the subject would do from that point forward; whether the subject would run, or whether the subject might overpower him and continue the assault on his child. I put this in the same class as the cop who shot the face-eating monster in Florida, rather than baton, tase or physically confront someone whom he reasonably believed could not have been controlled and the assault ended with less than that level of force.

25 posted on 06/16/2012 4:57:59 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Ophiucus; All
However, the father had pulled the scum off of his daughter through the use of force and stopped the commission of the crime. At that point, technically, he should of stopped. He is legally vulnerable for each blow he threw afterward.

I must disagree. At the point where the pulled the subject off his daughter, he had no way of knowing what the subject would do from that point forward; whether the subject would run, or whether the subject might overpower him and continue the assault on his child. I put this in the same class as the cop who shot the face-eating monster in Florida, rather than baton, tase or physically confront someone whom he reasonably believed could not have been controlled and the assault ended with less than that level of force.

26 posted on 06/16/2012 4:58:31 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: JCBreckenridge
Other states might want to emulate Texas...

A number of them do. NH's law on similarly contains explicit provisions allowing the use of deadly force to stop a number of crimes in progress. I can't imagine that any state would hold that deadly force could not be used to stop a kidnapping and rape of a child in progress.

27 posted on 06/16/2012 5:05:21 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Zakeet
No bill.

Next.

28 posted on 06/16/2012 5:07:26 AM PDT by Wizdum (My job is to get you to shoot soda out your nose)
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To: FES0844

“Give the dad a medal.”

And castrate child molesters with blowtorches so it does not happen again.

The fact we have a term “repeat sex offender” speaks volumes about where we are as a nation.


29 posted on 06/16/2012 5:12:08 AM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was, as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: Zakeet

Rot in hell, Flores!


30 posted on 06/16/2012 5:25:50 AM PDT by carriage_hill (All libs & most dems think that life is just a sponge bath, with a happy ending.)
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To: maine yankee

Judges are elected in Texas. There will be no nullification of the jury’s acquittal.


31 posted on 06/16/2012 5:50:32 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Gargantua
The prosecutor deserves a beatdown too.
32 posted on 06/16/2012 6:04:08 AM PDT by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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To: Zakeet

Rot in hell, Flores!


33 posted on 06/16/2012 6:27:07 AM PDT by carriage_hill (All libs & most dems think that life is just a sponge bath, with a happy ending.)
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The child molester can be assumed to have been resisting detention by force. No jury would convict the dad. No Grand Jury would indict. Only danger would be if the corrupt, racist Holder Justice Department were to decide that the pervert’s “civil rights” had been violated. A persecution could be another tool for the Obamanunists to court the precious “Latino vote.”
34 posted on 06/16/2012 6:33:18 AM PDT by Godwin1
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To: Havisham
Wow, that was a very insightful observation. What we are seeing is not so much a race issue, but a morality issue. It reflects the moral decay that is visible from the top down.

I know many conservative folks (Latino, black, Asian, etc.) who are really afraid of the younger "thug" generation, not only because they could be victims as well but that they might be lumped into the "all (fill in the blanks) are rioting, looting, and robbing" category. Right now, the black youth issue is coming to the top. However, there are Latino, white, and asian gangs as well that are doing their stuff as well. They're only a bit wiser to keep a lower profile (right now).

Same with your observation. You have a lower stratification of the population that are morally bankrupt and have no compulsion about doing stuff that most of us cannot fathom. Theft, robbery, drug use/dealing, pimping/prostitution, rioting, and murder is not only acceptable, it's promoted by the very culture!

The socialist/communists have negated God, but expect people to obey the laws they pass like they are the gods. Trouble is, their example is far from godly, and when everyone is "special", then no one is. Do as I say, and not as I do no longer flies (ask zero).

We're nose-diving into a mountain, and the majority is about fed up with this mess. I have daughters. Had this happen to one of them, I would not feel remorse at this outcome. I applaud the father for doing his duty, and he should be framed as a hero, 'nuf said...

35 posted on 06/16/2012 6:38:21 AM PDT by Dubh_Ghlase (Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls, It tolls for thee.)
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To: Zakeet
FTA:

"The release stated that all of the physical evidence and witness statements in the case corroborated the father's statement."

OOPS!! Just like the Zimmerman case. Looks like Holder's gong to be prosecuting the dad for a "hate crime," and I just wish I were being sarcastic.

36 posted on 06/16/2012 6:49:34 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: yldstrk

Just ask yourself what he’s have don to the little girl after he’d kidnapped her and raped her. A few weeks from now, if her dad hadn’t acted promptly, as he did, her dead body would have been found in some culvert and the perp would be safely in Mexico. Kudos to the sheriff.


37 posted on 06/16/2012 6:53:00 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

“I must disagree. At the point where the pulled the subject off his daughter, he had no way of knowing what the subject would do from that point forward; whether the subject would run, or whether the subject might overpower him and continue the assault on his child. I put this in the same class as the cop who shot the face-eating monster in Florida, rather than baton, tase or physically confront someone whom he reasonably believed could not have been controlled and the assault ended with less than that level of force.”

You have to remember that this is Texas. It doesn’t matter what the law says, this is regarded as justifiable.

Jury foreman presents the findings of the jury:

“Guilty? No F***in’ way.!”


38 posted on 06/16/2012 6:54:21 AM PDT by buffaloguy
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To: Gargantua

“[E]xcept that only an idiot prosecutor would ever bring such a case before a jury. Or a judge.”

Or Eric Holder.


39 posted on 06/16/2012 6:56:14 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: Zakeet
Clear points, all 8 of them. I feel very sorry for this father, who obviously didn't intend to kill him and normally several blows wouldn't necessarily do that. This will never reach a grand jury. I love Texas and its straight-thinking citizens.

Save all the hubbub for those who deserve it.

40 posted on 06/16/2012 6:59:46 AM PDT by NTegraT (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: yldstrk

Amen!


41 posted on 06/16/2012 7:02:43 AM PDT by rabidralph
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To: Zakeet

Great post!!, i may want copy it to my hometown newzpaper comments.


42 posted on 06/16/2012 7:05:31 AM PDT by urtax$@work (The only kind of memorial is a Burning memorial !)
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To: Zakeet

I’d check the horses this guy was supposed to be taking care of. He was probably having his way with them, too.


43 posted on 06/16/2012 7:06:15 AM PDT by Auntie Mame (Fear not tomorrow. God is already there.)
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To: Ophiucus

Maybe if the father was armed he could have pulled the guy off and then held him at gunpoint, but since he had no way of knowing the guy’s mental state, he could have been attacked and incapacitated and both he and his daughter would be in danger. With the added danger of drugs that turn people into superhuman zombies, the dad did everything right, based on what he saw of the situation. I’m happy the dad rescued his daughter. The daughter knows that she is loved and that her dad holds her in high enough regard that he would do anything he could to protect her. All children should feel this secure with their parents.


44 posted on 06/16/2012 7:08:23 AM PDT by rabidralph
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To: Flintlock

OMG!!!!
(Obama Must Go)


45 posted on 06/16/2012 7:10:43 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Zakeet
Excellent post, congrats. One point is want to add is this:

No matter what, the father stopped this child rapist from repeating his crime again and again. Most people know full well that most child rapists end up with multiple victims and destroy many lives before they are through.

This event may not have been this child rapist's first rape.

Thank goodness it is his last!

46 posted on 06/16/2012 7:14:21 AM PDT by Buffalo Bob
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To: Zakeet

It proves once again,

DON’T MESS WITH TEXAS

DON’T MESS WITH TEXANS

DON’T MESS WITH TEXAS KIDS

DON’T MESS WITH MY KIDS

I’m really surprised that Senior Flores was even identifiable!
We have evolved from GET A ROPE! :)


47 posted on 06/16/2012 7:15:11 AM PDT by carlo3b (Home, is where the heart is..)
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To: Zakeet

Prayers up for this father and his daughter. My heart goes out to both of them.

May God forgive me for not praying for the perp. I wonder how many assaults he has committed in the past without getting caught....


48 posted on 06/16/2012 7:17:41 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: Zakeet

That’s one less sicko illegal. The dad did the world a favor.


49 posted on 06/16/2012 7:18:43 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Ophiucus

So in other words the dad would have been legally in the clear had he killed the perv first (by, say, splitting his head in two with a crowbar) THEN pulled the body off his daughter ...


50 posted on 06/16/2012 7:23:04 AM PDT by tanknetter
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