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Shiner (Texas) beating death victim name released
Victoria (Texas) Advocate ^ | June 15, 2012

Posted on 06/16/2012 1:19:03 AM PDT by Zakeet

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For the benefit of Libtards everywhere, it should be noted that:

  1. This case has nothing whatsoever to do with handguns.

  2. This case has nothing whatsoever to do with stand your ground.

  3. This case has nothing whatsoever to do with self-defense.

  4. This case has everything to do with stopping a green card pervert from raping a five year old girl.

  5. Texas statutes expressly permit the use of deadly force to: prevent the ... imminent commission of aggravated kidnapping, murder, sexual assault, aggravated sexual assault, robbery, or aggravated robbery.

  6. This law protects citizens by deterring crime and stopping crime in progress.

  7. This law saves the taxpayers money.

  8. This law is one of many things that makes Texas a special place.

Sorry for the rant, but I figured that if newsers and other idiots want to whine about Texas justice, they might as well start with a few facts ... not that it will make much of a difference.

1 posted on 06/16/2012 1:19:20 AM PDT by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet

Dad did what Dads should do

Hope he has a peaceful Father’s Day somehow


2 posted on 06/16/2012 1:26:07 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Zakeet

Maddening how perp is ID’d in headline as beating victim. He is a criminal of the worst kind, not a victim


3 posted on 06/16/2012 1:27:51 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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Death alone is far, far too good for this monster. I hope that hell gives him no rest.


4 posted on 06/16/2012 1:32:16 AM PDT by Bullish
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To: Zakeet
Correct that the law covers the use of force to prevent commission of the crimes mentioned. However, the father had pulled the scum off of his daughter through the use of force and stopped the commission of the crime. At that point, technically, he should of stopped. He is legally vulnerable for each blow he threw afterward.

That being said, I find it unlikely that a grand jury in Texas would indict and there is no way a trial jury would convict. Rightfully so for he did, as others have mentioned, what a father should do.

5 posted on 06/16/2012 1:39:49 AM PDT by Ophiucus
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To: Ophiucus

Agreed; but my vote on the jury would be ‘not guilty’ whatever the charge against dad.


6 posted on 06/16/2012 1:50:18 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: Ophiucus
He is legally vulnerable for each blow he threw afterward

Can't agree.
There is such a thing as "heat of battle."

7 posted on 06/16/2012 2:10:11 AM PDT by stormhill
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To: Zakeet

You tell ‘em, Zakeet!


8 posted on 06/16/2012 2:19:57 AM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: Zakeet; All

People have to know that Mexico and Central America are societies in deep moral crisis at this point in history. Males, unanchored by family, are a danger. My own cousin’s bride was attacked and killed in her home by such a depraved Salvadoran “refugee” who was hired out of compassion. I’m Latina and I say be cautious and skeptical because these individuals are not operating under the same assumptions about defenseless women and children.


9 posted on 06/16/2012 2:23:16 AM PDT by Havisham
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To: Ophiucus

...Jury nullification...


10 posted on 06/16/2012 2:46:38 AM PDT by maine yankee (I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
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To: Ophiucus

I stand with the father.


11 posted on 06/16/2012 2:52:23 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Ophiucus
"At that point, technically, he should of stopped. He is legally vulnerable for each blow he threw afterward."

The father had no way of knowing if, the scumbag, deprived of his raging lustful satiation, might turn, enraged, beat the father unconscious, and then continue to rape his child. The only way to be sure that this rape was ended was to either restrain (bind) the attacker, or, absent the implements needed to accomplish this, render him unconscious.

None of which takes into account the father's immediate frame of mind upon seeing his kidnapped child about to be sexually savaged by this animal. Striking out to defend his innocent in an immediate flash of righteous anger is only human, should be expected, and would never be found by a jury as grounds for a finding of pre-meditated malicious intent.

I could act as counsel for this Texas dad in 100 such cases and win every single one of them. Except that only an idiot prosecutor would ever bring such a case before a jury. Or a judge.

;-\

12 posted on 06/16/2012 2:55:14 AM PDT by Gargantua ("Barack O'Bunga--America's first gay president...")
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To: Zakeet

Give the dad a medal.


13 posted on 06/16/2012 2:56:41 AM PDT by FES0844
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To: Ophiucus

Also disagree...the father merely identified the threat to his daughter’s well being and eliminated it. That’s what he should have done. The sexual abuse law had been violated, and dad put an end to it.


14 posted on 06/16/2012 3:04:57 AM PDT by Fireone (Patriots, not politicians! No more liberals!)
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To: Zakeet

Guess what?
With our Kenyan POTUS we now have MILLIONS MORE MEHHICCAN criminals allowed to stay!


15 posted on 06/16/2012 3:12:51 AM PDT by Flintlock (THE TRUTH: It's the new hate speech..)
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To: Zakeet

Sadly, this is going to happen much more often because of what Obama did yesterday.


16 posted on 06/16/2012 3:21:09 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Zakeet

The libs forget that TX is a very big law and order place.


17 posted on 06/16/2012 3:23:10 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Ophiucus

At that point, technically, he should of stopped. He is legally vulnerable for each blow he threw afterward.

*******

I’ve yet to see any evidence that he pulled him off the kid *then* started punching him. Its quite likely the perp started fighting back the moment dad got his hands on him, justifying the use of force.

Not that I would convict him even if he’d taken a few shots after he’d pulled the pervert off the kid. This is one case in which the much maligned “temporary insanity” defense would be absolutely justified.

I can’t think of msny things capable of causing someone to temporarily lose their reason as witnessing your own child in the process of being molested by some sh*tbag with his pants around his ankles.

Just the thought of it is enough to raise anyones blood pressure a few points.


18 posted on 06/16/2012 3:28:16 AM PDT by gzzimlich
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To: Venturer

As do I. The father, was being a father. No crime in that,


19 posted on 06/16/2012 3:36:31 AM PDT by BornToBeAmerican (Things aren't as good as they should be and its Obama's fault, the resident said)
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To: Ophiucus

“At that point, technically, he should of stopped. “

Umm no


20 posted on 06/16/2012 3:45:17 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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