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Gallup: More people still blame Bush for poor economy than Obama
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Posted on 06/14/2012 6:09:18 PM PDT by chessplayer

I keep waiting for these numbers to start moving.

Annnnnny day now.

Quinnipiac’s polled this question repeatedly and their numbers are strikingly static too:

I’ve always assumed that the flatness of this data is due to people reserving judgment on O’s economic record for as long as they can. They like him personally and want to give him the benefit of the doubt so they’re waiting to see if he might yet still have a few bonanza jobs reports up his sleeve. But now I don’t know. The May jobs report was so awful and the prognosis for the rest of the year so grim that I figured we’d see some movement in this metric this time. Nope.


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Nothing sticks to obama,,,nothing. It's infuriating. And because nothing sticks to him, he will in all likelihood get another 4 years.
1 posted on 06/14/2012 6:09:24 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

This would be horrible news if Bush were running this year....


2 posted on 06/14/2012 6:12:10 PM PDT by guido911 (Islamic terrorists are members http://www.freerepublic.com/foof the "ROP", the "religion of pu*&ies")
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To: chessplayer

As long as there are more Democrats than Republicans, this will be the case.


3 posted on 06/14/2012 6:12:25 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: chessplayer

Don’t be so pessimistic.

Dems are getting shredded in elections all over the US.

The economy is clearly taking another leg downward and this plays perfectly for November.


4 posted on 06/14/2012 6:13:02 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: chessplayer

In all the entire recorded history of the known universe, NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! is as stupid as the pig-dog American voter.

The demofilth party has been openly, blatantly, proudly treasonous and hateful of EVERYTHING American for at least 50 years, and yet...

Carter, Clinton, Clinton II, Ofiltha, a dem congress for 45 of the last 60 years, etc., etc.

The American pig-dog voter is neither evil, nor anti-American; he is just dumber than the sub-human filth that he elects on a regular basis.


5 posted on 06/14/2012 6:13:22 PM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: chessplayer

Obamney will be painted as “Bush the 2nd” this summer and Zero will get another 4 years ... YOU CAN BANK ON THAT!

Obamney was the worst possible candidate for the GOPe to pick. I can’t believe that no one else could have stepped forward this primary season.

It really doesn’t matter who wins, we are ALL screwed.


6 posted on 06/14/2012 6:17:20 PM PDT by CapnJack
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To: chessplayer

First off, this is a Quinnipiac poll.

Secondly, this makes Dear Reader appear all the more impotent - he cannot overcome the power of a man who has not held office in nearly four years.


7 posted on 06/14/2012 6:18:10 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: chessplayer

How soon people forget. The economy was starting to look soft during the 2008 campaign, and started softening up more as soon as OZERO started leading Hillary in the primaries. Then, when that COMMUNIST started leading McCain after the conventions, we moved into recession.

When OZERO swooped in with his big tax hikes and LITERAL seizure of the means of production, things REALLY hit the fan. That’s when job creators just said F-— NO and started shedding employees as fast as they could.

And the economy has been getting FAR WORSE ever since!


8 posted on 06/14/2012 6:18:43 PM PDT by GodAndCountryFirst
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To: Doctor 2Brains

You should really tell us what you think :)


9 posted on 06/14/2012 6:18:57 PM PDT by NoExpectations
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To: CapnJack

First, I am not convinced that Obamney will get the nomination. The patriotic rank-and-file conventioneers could still wake up and do the right thing. Second: ANYBODY could beat OZERO.


10 posted on 06/14/2012 6:24:39 PM PDT by GodAndCountryFirst
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To: chessplayer

That’s because they’re told to.


11 posted on 06/14/2012 6:25:42 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (Criminaliens or Crimigrants...0bamao's people?)
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To: chessplayer

If he thinks he can win by wining about how it’s not his fault, more power to him.


12 posted on 06/14/2012 6:28:51 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: chessplayer

And that’s why the Rats keep beating this drum.

Of course, the made the drum in the first place...


13 posted on 06/14/2012 6:30:09 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: guido911
This would be horrible news if Bush were running this year....

52% blame Obama -- and he IS running this year.


14 posted on 06/14/2012 6:32:16 PM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: chessplayer

They would be silly not to blame Bush. MSNBC, CNN, CBS, ABC, NPR, NYT, and WaPo all tell them it is Bush’s fault. What kind of Democrat would trust his own lying eyes when all the experts disagree with what he sees for himself?


15 posted on 06/14/2012 6:33:41 PM PDT by Pollster1 (A boy becomes a man when a man is needed - John Steinbeck)
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To: chessplayer

As long as the majority of voters get their information via the MSM, the majority of voters will hold positive opinions of Democrats.


16 posted on 06/14/2012 6:35:07 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: GodAndCountryFirst

“The patriotic rank-and-file conventioneers could still wake up and do the right thing. Second: ANYBODY could beat OZERO.”

the vast majority of people I know and meet don’t think of politics virtually at all. And yes, a lot of them do think Bush and the Repubs did this to the country if asked. And Zero got handed a $hit sandwitch.

Man, there are sooooooooo many STUPID people out there!


17 posted on 06/14/2012 6:36:15 PM PDT by CapnJack
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To: chessplayer

I hope that folks start to look in a mirror to see the problem with our economy. Almost everywhere I look folks think that they can get something they want and get someone else to pay for it. Bush is a problem. Obama is too. But to some degree they are both just symptoms of the moral rot.


18 posted on 06/14/2012 6:39:36 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: chessplayer

I hope that folks start to look in a mirror to see the problem with our economy. Almost everywhere I look folks think that they can get something they want and get someone else to pay for it. Bush is a problem. Obama is too. But to some degree they are both just symptoms of the moral rot.


19 posted on 06/14/2012 6:39:50 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: chessplayer

I hope that folks start to look in a mirror to see the problem with our economy. Almost everywhere I look folks think that they can get something they want and get someone else to pay for it. Bush is a problem. Obama is too. But to some degree they are both just symptoms of the moral rot.


20 posted on 06/14/2012 6:39:56 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: chessplayer

Products of public education.


21 posted on 06/14/2012 6:40:05 PM PDT by excalibur21
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To: chessplayer

Bush is like Goldstein, the object of the “Two minutes hate” in 1984.


22 posted on 06/14/2012 6:40:37 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: chessplayer

I continue to believe this is the chief failing of modern conservatism:

The failure to defend Bush.

In 2007 the new senator Obama joined a landslide of democrats flush from campaign donations made by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Dodd, frank and others deregulated the GSEs who paid for the election. Bush had urged repeatedly for stronger congressional oversight.

The democratic house and senate popped the financial bubble. The impending election of Obama in the fall of 2008 deepened the decline.

Despite these obvious facts you will find here in 2012 an abundance of freepers waxing eloquent on bush bad.

For me, I think if Obama loses the election on bush did it then I would absolutely prefer bush to return for a third term over a Romney presidency.


23 posted on 06/14/2012 6:47:47 PM PDT by lonestar67 (I remember when unemployment was 4.7 percent)
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To: chessplayer

Well, look at the stinking facts.

Here’s Bush, in his *own* words, pushing home loans for totally unqualified minorities.

“”Low income home buyers can have as nice of home as anyone else. Well increase minority home ownership by the end of of this decade by 5.5 million minority home owners.””

“Bad credit histories, no problem” “You don’t have to have a lousy home if your a first time home buyers”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqR15H0gNBU


24 posted on 06/14/2012 6:49:09 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: chessplayer

68% plus 52% is um, lets see 120% right? Interesting....


25 posted on 06/14/2012 6:55:47 PM PDT by refermech
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To: lonestar67
I continue to believe this is the chief failing of modern conservatism:

The failure to defend Bush.

Hell, Bush wouldn't defend Bush.

He spent most of his time hiding under the bed in the WH Master Bedroom.

That COULD explain why no one else lifed a finger either.

26 posted on 06/14/2012 6:58:08 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Liberals, at their core, are aggressive & dangerous to everyone around them,)
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To: chessplayer

No Democrat would blame Obama for poor economy and these pools are skewed towards Democrats.
If more Democrats than Republicans were polled then indeed more people blamed Bush.


27 posted on 06/14/2012 7:03:29 PM PDT by citizencon
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To: chessplayer

Yet another example of how frustratingly ignorant the American electorate is. Government schools have done their nefarious “best” to bring us to this juncture.


28 posted on 06/14/2012 7:08:11 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: All

of all the things GWB did, not defending himself was the most damaging.


29 posted on 06/14/2012 7:10:49 PM PDT by newnhdad (Where will you be during the Election Riots of 2012/2013?)
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To: GodAndCountryFirst

“The patriotic rank-and-file conventioneers could still wake up and do the right thing.”

I envy your optimism, but fear Geriatric Old Plotters have this in the bag. I would love to be wrong, more than words can say.


30 posted on 06/14/2012 7:29:20 PM PDT by Psalm 144 ("I'm not willing to light my hair on fire to try and get support. I am who I am." - Willard M Romney)
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To: chessplayer

This only proves the repetitive propaganda by the MSM Pimps and Prostitutes is being believe by a portion of the public. That said, I have my personal doubts as to the accuracy of the polls .... remember Wisconsin when the exit polls showed the progressives winning. What was discounted was that at least 16% of the voters polled during the exit from the polls lied to the pollsters to make them go away and not to be hassled by the union thugs.


31 posted on 06/14/2012 8:15:17 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (There's a pill for just about everything ... except stupid!)
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To: Sooth2222

Point. Set. Match.


32 posted on 06/14/2012 8:18:15 PM PDT by guido911 (Islamic terrorists are members http://www.freerepublic.com/foof the "ROP", the "religion of pu*&ies")
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To: chessplayer

They must only be polling blackareas cause that is the only people I still hear saying that crap. I am sure a few other deluded whites believe so also but blacks are the only ones I hear saying it now.


33 posted on 06/14/2012 8:32:42 PM PDT by packrat35 (Admit it! We are almost ready to be called a police state!)
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To: newnhdad
of all the things GWB did, not defending himself was the most damaging.

I always thought that he thought it was beneath the dignity of the office, or his own dignity, to do so. And what was then damaged? He served two terms!

34 posted on 06/14/2012 8:44:43 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: chessplayer

If you look at the detail, it is because 50% of REPUBLICANS still blame him either strongly or moderately. When you go over to the other side of the poll, you have just a 20% or so of Democrats blaming Obama either strongly or moderately.

I can’t imagine half of republicans still blaming bush over 3 years later. I think they got snookered when they did the polling.


35 posted on 06/14/2012 8:44:47 PM PDT by dewawi
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To: chessplayer

Pointless, garbage poll. Ok, just for sake of argument let’s say Bush is at fault. Let’s say the Ameican people think ole W started the fire. Buuuuut, in 2008 they called the fire department that is Barak Hussein Obama. He showed up, unrolled the hose and sprayed gas on the fire. When the voters complained about it his response was not to stop spraying gas but to point out that he did not start the fire.


36 posted on 06/14/2012 9:08:07 PM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: chessplayer

Perception becomes the truth. The media has been very good at repeating Obama’s and the dem’s lies often enough to drive their message.

We now have the most ignorant electorate in the history of American elections. I believe we have the most corrupt government and media our country has ever seen.

Things are bad, very bad for many, yet this race remains Obama’s to lose.

Like so many other things in life, people don’t realize what they have, until they have lost it.


37 posted on 06/14/2012 9:09:24 PM PDT by Gator113 (***YOU GAVE it to Obama. I would have voted for NEWT.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: RetiredTexasVet

The useful days of polling are past. With caller id most people avoid polls. And since the polled suspect the polling company of tracking responses and feeding it to campaigns and union thugs, few people answer honestly. Why risk reprisals? Just lie and vote your true opinion in the secret ballot.


38 posted on 06/14/2012 9:38:05 PM PDT by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts so good.)
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To: chessplayer
Perhaps the poll reflects that conservatives tend to think, and leftists tend to rationalize.

Truth be told, Bush could have handled the whole TARP thing better, and he screwed it up some, which contributed to a recession right at the end of his eight years. Then Obama came in claiming he would make everything great, and instead prolonged and deepened the recession into a new dismal norm. Thus, although I am no big fan of Bush and maintain he was far better than Obama, I might answer "yes" if asked if Bush was at least "moderately" responsible for the recession.

39 posted on 06/14/2012 9:59:27 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: GodAndCountryFirst

Sarbanes-Oxley was passed during Bush’s first term. It was praised by the whole political class and signed by Bush. It all started with Sarbanes-Oxley as it depressed small business.


40 posted on 06/15/2012 12:09:47 AM PDT by Crucial (Tolerance at the expense of equal treatment is the path to tyranny.)
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To: dragnet2

You’re right, the Democrat congress and Bush pushed financial reform, unqualified homeowners, and unending stimulus.


41 posted on 06/15/2012 12:12:18 AM PDT by Crucial (Tolerance at the expense of equal treatment is the path to tyranny.)
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To: dragnet2

You’re right, the Democrat congress and Bush pushed financial reform, unqualified homeowners, and unending stimulus. Of course, so does Obama, but on a larger scale.


42 posted on 06/15/2012 12:12:53 AM PDT by Crucial (Tolerance at the expense of equal treatment is the path to tyranny.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Yes

I’m struck how when the conservatives gave the congress to democrats in 2006 that president bush folded on Iraq and pulled out.

I’m also struck how in TARP he spent all of the funds allocated and did not require the funds to be paid back.

I’m also struck that like LBJ he quit and refused to run for a second term.

I am also embarrassed that when more than 200 marines were slaughtered in Beirut he refused to fight a war on terror and just pulled out of conflicts.

Oh wait. . ..


43 posted on 06/15/2012 7:06:20 AM PDT by lonestar67 (I remember when unemployment was 4.7 percent)
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To: Crucial

You bet. Bush was an absolute disaster.

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Here’s Bush, in his *own* words, pushing home loans for totally unqualified minorities.

“”Low income home buyers can have as nice of home as anyone else. Well increase minority home ownership by the end of of this decade by 5.5 million minority home owners.””

“Bad credit histories, no problem” “You don’t have to have a lousy home if your a first time home buyers”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqR15H0gNBU


44 posted on 06/15/2012 8:54:48 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: lonestar67

I noice none of the examples you cited were of Bush defending himself.

That’s understandable, as I know his record fairly well.


45 posted on 06/15/2012 11:30:58 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Liberals, at their core, are aggressive & dangerous to everyone around them,)
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To: Balding_Eagle

He ran for a second term

He renewed and escalated the WOT

I guess you and many others weren’t paying as close attention as you thought.


46 posted on 06/15/2012 5:31:18 PM PDT by lonestar67 (I remember when unemployment was 4.7 percent)
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To: dragnet2

Bush advocated increased regulation of the GSEs at least six times.

The housing collapse happened in 2007 after the democratic landslide.

The bush = obama meme is the same thing as supporting Obama and ant conservative radicals.


47 posted on 06/15/2012 5:34:21 PM PDT by lonestar67 (I remember when unemployment was 4.7 percent)
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To: lonestar67

Here’s Bush, in his *own* words, pushing home loans for totally unqualified minorities.

“”Low income home buyers can have as nice of home as anyone else. Well increase minority home ownership by the end of of this decade by 5.5 million minority home owners.””

“Bad credit histories, no problem” “You don’t have to have a lousy home if your a first time home buyers”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqR15H0gNBU

BTW, Bush gave this speech just several years prior to the housing collapse.

These are Bush’s own words, not mine.


48 posted on 06/15/2012 5:38:29 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: lonestar67
Bush, in his 2002 mortgage speech, just a few years prior to the housing collapse: _________________________________________________________ """We have a problem here in America because fewer than half the Hispanics and African Americans own their own homes.

That’s a home ownership gap; a gap that we got to work together to close. And by the end of this decade we’ll increase the number of minority homeowners by 5.5 million families. “

“One of the major obstacles to minority home-ownership is financing. Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac have committed to provide more money for lenders, they committed to meet the shortage of capital available for minority home-buyers.

Freddie Mac just began 25 initiatives around the country to dismantle barriers (like income requirements) and create better opportunities for home-ownership.

One of the programs is designed to help families with bad credit histories to qualify for home ownership loans (by faking their income) . You don’t have to have a lousy home for first time home-buyers.

You put your mind to it the first time low income home buyer can have just as nice a house as anyone else (till those adjustable rates go up)."""

49 posted on 06/15/2012 5:49:21 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: lonestar67
National Homeownership Month, 2003

By the President GEORGE W. BUSH, President of the United States of America

________________________________________________________

A Proclamation

Homeownership is more than just a symbol of the American Dream; it is an important part of our way of life. Core American values of individuality, thrift, responsibility, and self-reliance are embodied in homeownership. I am committed to helping more families know the security and sense of pride that comes with owning a home. The Department of Housing and Urban Development is leading an Administration-wide effort to bring new tools and resources to would-be homeowners.

We are providing financial assistance to qualified families through the American Dream Downpayment Fund, funding educational programs that stress financial literacy, and offering a compassionate hand to those who dream of moving from subsidized housing into homeownership.

And through the Self-Help Homeownership Opportunity Program, my Administration partners with nonprofit organizations that offer homeownership opportunities to families willing to contribute their skills and labor to help build a home of their own. We are also proposing ways to make it easier to shop for a mortgage and to make mortgages available to more families through the Federal Housing Administration.

Today, the United States is fortunate in that our homeownership rate is at an all-time high, and low interest rates continue to encourage millions of Americans to become first-time homeowners. Although a record number of Americans own their own homes, we continue to see a gap between the homeownership rates of minorities and nonminorities. By a significant margin, minority families are less likely to own their own homes.

Therefore, I have called upon the entire housing industry to join with my Administration to expand minority homeownership across the Nation. Our goal is to help at least 5.5 million minority families become homeowners by the end of this decade, and our Blueprint for the American Dream Partnership is taking bold steps to make this a reality.

Across our Nation, every citizen, regardless of race, creed, color, or place of birth, should have the opportunity to become a homeowner. Homeownership represents a pathway to pride and prosperity for many families, encourages values of responsibility and sacrifice, creates stability for neighborhoods and communities, and generates economic growth that helps strengthen the entire Nation.

NOW, THEREFORE, I, GEORGE W. BUSH, President of the United States of America

50 posted on 06/15/2012 6:02:12 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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