52% blame Obama -- and he IS running this year.
Posted on 06/14/2012 6:09:18 PM PDT by chessplayer
I keep waiting for these numbers to start moving.
Annnnnny day now.
Quinnipiac’s polled this question repeatedly and their numbers are strikingly static too:
I’ve always assumed that the flatness of this data is due to people reserving judgment on O’s economic record for as long as they can. They like him personally and want to give him the benefit of the doubt so they’re waiting to see if he might yet still have a few bonanza jobs reports up his sleeve. But now I don’t know. The May jobs report was so awful and the prognosis for the rest of the year so grim that I figured we’d see some movement in this metric this time. Nope.
This would be horrible news if Bush were running this year....
As long as there are more Democrats than Republicans, this will be the case.
Don’t be so pessimistic.
Dems are getting shredded in elections all over the US.
The economy is clearly taking another leg downward and this plays perfectly for November.
In all the entire recorded history of the known universe, NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! is as stupid as the pig-dog American voter.
The demofilth party has been openly, blatantly, proudly treasonous and hateful of EVERYTHING American for at least 50 years, and yet...
Carter, Clinton, Clinton II, Ofiltha, a dem congress for 45 of the last 60 years, etc., etc.
The American pig-dog voter is neither evil, nor anti-American; he is just dumber than the sub-human filth that he elects on a regular basis.
Obamney will be painted as “Bush the 2nd” this summer and Zero will get another 4 years ... YOU CAN BANK ON THAT!
Obamney was the worst possible candidate for the GOPe to pick. I can’t believe that no one else could have stepped forward this primary season.
It really doesn’t matter who wins, we are ALL screwed.
First off, this is a Quinnipiac poll.
Secondly, this makes Dear Reader appear all the more impotent - he cannot overcome the power of a man who has not held office in nearly four years.
How soon people forget. The economy was starting to look soft during the 2008 campaign, and started softening up more as soon as OZERO started leading Hillary in the primaries. Then, when that COMMUNIST started leading McCain after the conventions, we moved into recession.
When OZERO swooped in with his big tax hikes and LITERAL seizure of the means of production, things REALLY hit the fan. That’s when job creators just said F-— NO and started shedding employees as fast as they could.
And the economy has been getting FAR WORSE ever since!
You should really tell us what you think :)
First, I am not convinced that Obamney will get the nomination. The patriotic rank-and-file conventioneers could still wake up and do the right thing. Second: ANYBODY could beat OZERO.
That’s because they’re told to.
If he thinks he can win by wining about how it’s not his fault, more power to him.
And that’s why the Rats keep beating this drum.
Of course, the made the drum in the first place...
52% blame Obama -- and he IS running this year.
They would be silly not to blame Bush. MSNBC, CNN, CBS, ABC, NPR, NYT, and WaPo all tell them it is Bush’s fault. What kind of Democrat would trust his own lying eyes when all the experts disagree with what he sees for himself?
As long as the majority of voters get their information via the MSM, the majority of voters will hold positive opinions of Democrats.
“The patriotic rank-and-file conventioneers could still wake up and do the right thing. Second: ANYBODY could beat OZERO.”
the vast majority of people I know and meet don’t think of politics virtually at all. And yes, a lot of them do think Bush and the Repubs did this to the country if asked. And Zero got handed a $hit sandwitch.
Man, there are sooooooooo many STUPID people out there!
I hope that folks start to look in a mirror to see the problem with our economy. Almost everywhere I look folks think that they can get something they want and get someone else to pay for it. Bush is a problem. Obama is too. But to some degree they are both just symptoms of the moral rot.
I hope that folks start to look in a mirror to see the problem with our economy. Almost everywhere I look folks think that they can get something they want and get someone else to pay for it. Bush is a problem. Obama is too. But to some degree they are both just symptoms of the moral rot.
I hope that folks start to look in a mirror to see the problem with our economy. Almost everywhere I look folks think that they can get something they want and get someone else to pay for it. Bush is a problem. Obama is too. But to some degree they are both just symptoms of the moral rot.
Products of public education.
Bush is like Goldstein, the object of the “Two minutes hate” in 1984.
I continue to believe this is the chief failing of modern conservatism:
The failure to defend Bush.
In 2007 the new senator Obama joined a landslide of democrats flush from campaign donations made by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Dodd, frank and others deregulated the GSEs who paid for the election. Bush had urged repeatedly for stronger congressional oversight.
The democratic house and senate popped the financial bubble. The impending election of Obama in the fall of 2008 deepened the decline.
Despite these obvious facts you will find here in 2012 an abundance of freepers waxing eloquent on bush bad.
For me, I think if Obama loses the election on bush did it then I would absolutely prefer bush to return for a third term over a Romney presidency.
Well, look at the stinking facts.
Here’s Bush, in his *own* words, pushing home loans for totally unqualified minorities.
“”Low income home buyers can have as nice of home as anyone else. Well increase minority home ownership by the end of of this decade by 5.5 million minority home owners.””
“Bad credit histories, no problem” “You don’t have to have a lousy home if your a first time home buyers”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqR15H0gNBU
68% plus 52% is um, lets see 120% right? Interesting....
The failure to defend Bush.
Hell, Bush wouldn't defend Bush.
He spent most of his time hiding under the bed in the WH Master Bedroom.
That COULD explain why no one else lifed a finger either.
No Democrat would blame Obama for poor economy and these pools are skewed towards Democrats.
If more Democrats than Republicans were polled then indeed more people blamed Bush.
Yet another example of how frustratingly ignorant the American electorate is. Government schools have done their nefarious “best” to bring us to this juncture.
of all the things GWB did, not defending himself was the most damaging.
“The patriotic rank-and-file conventioneers could still wake up and do the right thing.”
I envy your optimism, but fear Geriatric Old Plotters have this in the bag. I would love to be wrong, more than words can say.
This only proves the repetitive propaganda by the MSM Pimps and Prostitutes is being believe by a portion of the public. That said, I have my personal doubts as to the accuracy of the polls .... remember Wisconsin when the exit polls showed the progressives winning. What was discounted was that at least 16% of the voters polled during the exit from the polls lied to the pollsters to make them go away and not to be hassled by the union thugs.
Point. Set. Match.
They must only be polling blackareas cause that is the only people I still hear saying that crap. I am sure a few other deluded whites believe so also but blacks are the only ones I hear saying it now.
I always thought that he thought it was beneath the dignity of the office, or his own dignity, to do so. And what was then damaged? He served two terms!
If you look at the detail, it is because 50% of REPUBLICANS still blame him either strongly or moderately. When you go over to the other side of the poll, you have just a 20% or so of Democrats blaming Obama either strongly or moderately.
I can’t imagine half of republicans still blaming bush over 3 years later. I think they got snookered when they did the polling.
Pointless, garbage poll. Ok, just for sake of argument let’s say Bush is at fault. Let’s say the Ameican people think ole W started the fire. Buuuuut, in 2008 they called the fire department that is Barak Hussein Obama. He showed up, unrolled the hose and sprayed gas on the fire. When the voters complained about it his response was not to stop spraying gas but to point out that he did not start the fire.
Perception becomes the truth. The media has been very good at repeating Obama’s and the dem’s lies often enough to drive their message.
We now have the most ignorant electorate in the history of American elections. I believe we have the most corrupt government and media our country has ever seen.
Things are bad, very bad for many, yet this race remains Obama’s to lose.
Like so many other things in life, people don’t realize what they have, until they have lost it.
The useful days of polling are past. With caller id most people avoid polls. And since the polled suspect the polling company of tracking responses and feeding it to campaigns and union thugs, few people answer honestly. Why risk reprisals? Just lie and vote your true opinion in the secret ballot.
Truth be told, Bush could have handled the whole TARP thing better, and he screwed it up some, which contributed to a recession right at the end of his eight years. Then Obama came in claiming he would make everything great, and instead prolonged and deepened the recession into a new dismal norm. Thus, although I am no big fan of Bush and maintain he was far better than Obama, I might answer "yes" if asked if Bush was at least "moderately" responsible for the recession.
Sarbanes-Oxley was passed during Bush’s first term. It was praised by the whole political class and signed by Bush. It all started with Sarbanes-Oxley as it depressed small business.
You’re right, the Democrat congress and Bush pushed financial reform, unqualified homeowners, and unending stimulus.
You’re right, the Democrat congress and Bush pushed financial reform, unqualified homeowners, and unending stimulus. Of course, so does Obama, but on a larger scale.
Yes
I’m struck how when the conservatives gave the congress to democrats in 2006 that president bush folded on Iraq and pulled out.
I’m also struck how in TARP he spent all of the funds allocated and did not require the funds to be paid back.
I’m also struck that like LBJ he quit and refused to run for a second term.
I am also embarrassed that when more than 200 marines were slaughtered in Beirut he refused to fight a war on terror and just pulled out of conflicts.
Oh wait. . ..
You bet. Bush was an absolute disaster.
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Here’s Bush, in his *own* words, pushing home loans for totally unqualified minorities.
“”Low income home buyers can have as nice of home as anyone else. Well increase minority home ownership by the end of of this decade by 5.5 million minority home owners.””
“Bad credit histories, no problem” “You don’t have to have a lousy home if your a first time home buyers”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqR15H0gNBU
I noice none of the examples you cited were of Bush defending himself.
That’s understandable, as I know his record fairly well.
He ran for a second term
He renewed and escalated the WOT
I guess you and many others weren’t paying as close attention as you thought.
Bush advocated increased regulation of the GSEs at least six times.
The housing collapse happened in 2007 after the democratic landslide.
The bush = obama meme is the same thing as supporting Obama and ant conservative radicals.
Here’s Bush, in his *own* words, pushing home loans for totally unqualified minorities.
“”Low income home buyers can have as nice of home as anyone else. Well increase minority home ownership by the end of of this decade by 5.5 million minority home owners.””
“Bad credit histories, no problem” “You don’t have to have a lousy home if your a first time home buyers”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqR15H0gNBU
BTW, Bush gave this speech just several years prior to the housing collapse.
These are Bush’s own words, not mine.
That’s a home ownership gap; a gap that we got to work together to close. And by the end of this decade we’ll increase the number of minority homeowners by 5.5 million families. “
“One of the major obstacles to minority home-ownership is financing. Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac have committed to provide more money for lenders, they committed to meet the shortage of capital available for minority home-buyers.
Freddie Mac just began 25 initiatives around the country to dismantle barriers (like income requirements) and create better opportunities for home-ownership.
One of the programs is designed to help families with bad credit histories to qualify for home ownership loans (by faking their income) . You don’t have to have a lousy home for first time home-buyers.
You put your mind to it the first time low income home buyer can have just as nice a house as anyone else (till those adjustable rates go up)."""
By the President GEORGE W. BUSH, President of the United States of America
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A Proclamation
Homeownership is more than just a symbol of the American Dream; it is an important part of our way of life. Core American values of individuality, thrift, responsibility, and self-reliance are embodied in homeownership. I am committed to helping more families know the security and sense of pride that comes with owning a home. The Department of Housing and Urban Development is leading an Administration-wide effort to bring new tools and resources to would-be homeowners.
We are providing financial assistance to qualified families through the American Dream Downpayment Fund, funding educational programs that stress financial literacy, and offering a compassionate hand to those who dream of moving from subsidized housing into homeownership.
And through the Self-Help Homeownership Opportunity Program, my Administration partners with nonprofit organizations that offer homeownership opportunities to families willing to contribute their skills and labor to help build a home of their own. We are also proposing ways to make it easier to shop for a mortgage and to make mortgages available to more families through the Federal Housing Administration.
Today, the United States is fortunate in that our homeownership rate is at an all-time high, and low interest rates continue to encourage millions of Americans to become first-time homeowners. Although a record number of Americans own their own homes, we continue to see a gap between the homeownership rates of minorities and nonminorities. By a significant margin, minority families are less likely to own their own homes.
Therefore, I have called upon the entire housing industry to join with my Administration to expand minority homeownership across the Nation. Our goal is to help at least 5.5 million minority families become homeowners by the end of this decade, and our Blueprint for the American Dream Partnership is taking bold steps to make this a reality.
Across our Nation, every citizen, regardless of race, creed, color, or place of birth, should have the opportunity to become a homeowner. Homeownership represents a pathway to pride and prosperity for many families, encourages values of responsibility and sacrifice, creates stability for neighborhoods and communities, and generates economic growth that helps strengthen the entire Nation.
NOW, THEREFORE, I, GEORGE W. BUSH, President of the United States of America
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