Posted on 06/14/2012 9:39:01 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote
Wow!
http://www.scribd.com/doc/97087947/Foster-McCollum-White-Associates-Baydoun-Consulting-Michigan-Poll-June-2012
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He can try, but for the first time in his life, Obama is facing an opponent who has deep resources... and a whole lot of cannons...of his own.
If mittens wins michigan, we are talking about a landslide and our long national nightmare ending on november 6, 2012
Virginia will be OK... just as NC will be. 2008 was a weird dynamic for this and other states. The election results of 2009 and 2010 show the good guys still have a lot of firepower left.
Wow! While I am not familiar with this polling outfit, their internals are very detailed!
Hopefully Li’l Petey Hoekstra will begin rising against Sen. Debbie Spenditnow. Last I saw, he looked pretty far back.
They took voters who had voted 70%+ of the time in recent generals and primaries. That's closer to "Likely voters" than "Registered"
I grew up in Michigan, and the breakdowns they show look pretty accurate. It's kind of a schizoid state, with SE Michigan extremely Dem, Western Michigan extremely GOP (back in the Johnson over Goldwater landslide of 1964, my county went 60-40 for Goldwater). Northern Michigan is Dem but socially conservative (think Bart Stupak, whom they fired for the crime of taking Pelosi seriously)
Agree. Don’t see how he could win MI and WI and lose OH
True - however - if he is doing well enough to carry Michigan, he’s likely to carry Ohio comfortably as that is the more Republican of the two states.
I wish people would stop viewing Republican control as a victory FOR anything. It is just a victory against Obama. He is not our only problem, however.
I’m an Ohioan, so I know that Michigan is more a blue state than is Ohio. IIRC, GWBush carried Ohio both times and Michigan neither time. I’d have to check on that to be sure, but each election was very narrow in terms of the electoral college.
So, it is more unusual for a republican to carry michigan than to carry Ohio.
Therefore, if Romney wins Michigan that makes Ohio less critical, so some different routes to victory open for Romney that weren’t there 2 weeks ago.
Romney carrying Michigan could be due to his father’s ties to Michigan and not to political momentum, so in that sense, it could be something that wouldn’t necessarily affect Ohio.
Michigan, if it flips, is minimum 313EV for Mittens on the way to a blowout...he peels off Michigan, that means he's won the South en banc, and he's taken Wisconsin too.
Normally, when I have these feelings toward a GOP Nominee (as I did McCain and Dole) they tend to lose in a landslide.
Looking at these recent polls all I can say is Obama appears to be in BIG trouble (if they are true).
I do NOT credit Romney for doing "so well" (if these polling results are true). I think it's ONLY because Obama has been such a terrible President. That says a lot about this man we have in the White House.
I’m fascinated by people who find Mythology so much preferable to Obamunism. To me it’s like execution by lethal injection versus by the electric chair. Yeah, it’s a little less painful, but when all is said and done, you’re still just as dead.
Hank
I’m a bit more cautious than that. He could peel off Michigan purely because of his past family ties to the state and access to the MI political machine. That and his family’s liberal past could combine to give him Michigan.
Those same conditions wouldn’t apply elsewhere, so a Michigan win doesn’t necessarily mean and Ohio or Pennsylvania win.
I’m a bit more cautious than that. He could peel off Michigan purely because of his past family ties to the state and access to the MI political machine. That and his family’s liberal past could combine to give him Michigan.
Those same conditions wouldn’t apply elsewhere, so a Michigan win doesn’t necessarily mean an Ohio or Pennsylvania win.
“When the Romney tribe campaigned to my sister in Livonia, they played up his liberal side as supporting womens rights unlike Santorums extremist agenda.”
We got a little of that even on FR. Not pro-Romney but anti-Santorum because of what they called ‘sactimonium.’
Well, look what we have now. Thanks guys!
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