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Obama TV Ad Hits Romney on Massachusetts Debt
ABC News ^ | June 12 2012 | Devin Dwyer

Posted on 06/12/2012 5:21:09 AM PDT by Zakeet

President Obama’s re-election campaign has spent weeks trying to drive home the point that Massachusetts was at the back of the pack in job growth under Gov. Mitt Romney. Now, a new campaign TV ad touts a stat on which Romney’s state surged to the front — per capita debt.

“Number One,” a 30-second spot, claims Massachusetts debt grew $2.6 billion during Romney’s tenure between 2003 and 2007 to $18 billion, or $4,153 per person, according to Moody’s 2007 State Debt Medians cited in the ad.

“First in debt. Forty-seventh in job creation. That’s Romney economics,” the ad says.

The tag line encapsulates Democrats’ argument against candidate Romney of 2012, discrediting his pitch for the presidency as an accomplished businessman and state chief executive by highlighting his record in office from less than a decade ago.

The ad will air in nine battleground states — Colorado, Florida, Iowa, North Carolina, New Hampshire, Nevada, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Virginia — as part of an ad campaign described by aides as a “significant buy.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012election; badgovromney; obama; romney; romney4morefees; romney4moreillegals; romney4moretaxes
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You Mitt-wits were warned that this would happen ...

1 posted on 06/12/2012 5:21:21 AM PDT by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet

I heard the ad. Pretty effective. Sure wish we had a better candidate.


2 posted on 06/12/2012 5:24:43 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Zakeet
“First in debt. Forty-seventh in job creation. That’s Romney economics,” the ad says.

I'm no Mitt fan, but this is hilarious coming from The Won. The best response to this 30 second ad is a 10 second one. The first 7 seconds will be laughter, followed with, "Have you seen you?"

3 posted on 06/12/2012 5:25:06 AM PDT by edpc (Wilby 2012)
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To: Zakeet

Yes, President Obama is so incredibly fiscally responsible that it makes Mitt Romney dangerous!

The ad is like something from Saturday Night Live.


4 posted on 06/12/2012 5:26:12 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: Zakeet

Wow they are running campaign ads, well this is unexpected. /s. I do think an attack on Romney’s record as governor is their best move. Then again, there is Obama’s record.


5 posted on 06/12/2012 5:31:05 AM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Erik Latranyi

The pot calling the kettle black.

I hope that isn’t racist LMAO.


6 posted on 06/12/2012 5:36:14 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Zakeet

But is it true? I haven’t looked at the numbers but it’s pretty easy to twist and bend numbers.


7 posted on 06/12/2012 5:37:46 AM PDT by avacado
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To: Zakeet
I think this ad, or at least a similar one, is playing here in FL. It is very effective. So now we have Obama or just like Obama to choose from. Darn good thing this is the most important election of our lifetime. /s

Fools prevailed, America fails.

8 posted on 06/12/2012 5:37:50 AM PDT by LuvFreeRepublic ( (#withNewt))
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To: Williams

Pretty Sad when the GOP can’t defend Romney’s record other than saying Obama’s is worse

What apathetic candidate we had foisted on us


9 posted on 06/12/2012 5:38:00 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: Zakeet

Touch not my annoying...

LOL


10 posted on 06/12/2012 5:38:26 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: Zakeet

If I were Obama, I wouldn’t mention debt or employment figures. I’d talk about fashion or something.


11 posted on 06/12/2012 5:43:19 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: edpc
I'm no Mitt fan, but this is hilarious coming from The Won.

You may think it is hilarious but I guarantee the independent voters won't

What a disaster the GOP elites gave us
12 posted on 06/12/2012 5:43:32 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: ilovesarah2012
Sure wish we had a better candidate.

That is worth repeating.

Sure wish we had a better candidate.

Next time we have to make the primary work better for us.

13 posted on 06/12/2012 5:43:32 AM PDT by Principled (It's not enthusiasm for Romney, it's grim determination to remove Hussein)
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To: avacado

I’m willing to bet romney will rebut this - likely with ridicule. I don’t know if the “real” numbers will come out but we’ll get another pov anyway.

But like you I’d like to see the “real” numbers. An admin that says the private sector is doing fine and quotes some job creation numbers to supposedly buttress the claim is obviously lying like a rug about a lot of things.


14 posted on 06/12/2012 5:48:44 AM PDT by Principled (It's not enthusiasm for Romney, it's grim determination to remove Hussein)
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To: uncbob

I agree. Don’t really see how indies would prefer Romney over Obama. And Romney’s “the president is out of touch” rings hollow to me considering Romney probably has no idea how much a gallon of milk costs.


15 posted on 06/12/2012 5:50:36 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

The unemployment rate in Massachusetts had doubled from January 2001 to January 2003, the year Romney took office, and was continuing to increase at a fast rate. He implemented pro-growth policies and programs. By summer the increase in unemployment had stopped and by fall unemployment was dropping. [13] While Massachusetts was 50th, or nearly the worst in the nation in the increase in unemployment rates the year that just ended when he took office, he got it down to 38th place by the end of his first year in office. [14] The unemployment rate continued to rapidly drop for nearly two years, hit a plateau for about a year and a half, then started dropping again at the end of his term of office (see chart below). The year he left office (2007), the trend in Massachusetts’ unemployment rate was 12th in the nation [15], a big improvement from the 50th place it was in the year he won office.


16 posted on 06/12/2012 5:57:04 AM PDT by theshadow3581
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To: ilovesarah2012
Wow, did I stumble upon DU, or FR? There's more scorn aimed at Romney than Obama.

Folks face it, we are stuck with Romney. Crying and whining about it helps no one. One of these two will be President for 4 years.

17 posted on 06/12/2012 5:59:28 AM PDT by NE Cons (Huge Palin Fan. Was a Hard-Core Perry supporter. Now Hard-Core ABO)
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To: Principled
Sure wish we had a better candidate. That is worth repeating. Sure wish we had a better candidate. Next time we have to make the primary work better for us.

Hah! It's like deja vu all over again. First I heard it in 2008, then I heard it in 2012... back to the pumpkin patch where the "real" conservative no doubt will rise up in 2016 and... and... well, next time for sure.

18 posted on 06/12/2012 6:07:19 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: NE Cons

Romney isn’t my idea of a perfect candidate, but you can be sure that he had absolutely zero cooperation in whatever he tried or wanted to do in Mass. He was probably the only Republican there, after all this is Massachusetts.


19 posted on 06/12/2012 6:07:44 AM PDT by nobamanomore
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To: NE Cons

I hate Obama and will vote for Romney, but I won’t be happy about it.


20 posted on 06/12/2012 6:08:50 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Zakeet

That Romney got any success in deep blue Taxachusetts is noteworthy. Better to have a RINO president than the incompetent marxist in chief.
Hey we gotta go to the dance with Mittens come November like it or not.


21 posted on 06/12/2012 6:12:56 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: theshadow3581

re: ilovesarah2012: Mass. unemployment

Your post should become an outline for a Romney campaign ad.


22 posted on 06/12/2012 6:13:58 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: edpc
I agree and think your suggestion should be sent to the Romney campaign. I saw the Obama ad and my eyes began rolling Inadvertently. Romney should just have a commercial with a snotty little Obama looking kid who blows a raspberry at you and says ‘I am rubber you are glue, whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you.’. That's exactly what Obama is acting like.
23 posted on 06/12/2012 6:16:25 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: NE Cons; ilovesarah2012
Folks face it, we are stuck with Romney. Crying and whining about it helps no one. One of these two will be President for 4 years.

Roger that! It is what it is, period. Wishful thinking at this point for woulda shoulda coulda is absolutely pointless, especially when the perfect response to this ad is to run the Post Turtle's quote about the private sector from Friday. Far different from 2001 I would say when considering the issues of today.

Get Romney in there and then hold his feet to the fire by electing as many true conservative, tea party types to the local, state and federal representative offices as possible. His role as an administrator will be just as predictable by the people he had to work with, then and now.

If he fails, then we have the primary process to go through again in four, only this time those people you voted into the lower chambers will be the determining factor on whether open primaries still exist. Only then will we have the ability to nominate a true conservative with bold differences as did the people of Wisconsin. There is a huge lesson to be learned from that recall election.

24 posted on 06/12/2012 6:16:57 AM PDT by mazda77 (and I am a Native Texan)
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To: Principled
I am no fan of Romney

That said, everyone knew he was running for President when he was Governor. I would be interested to see the difference in applications for federal aid and programs by the democrat house members and senators and democrat legislators. I know for a fact that a majority of his vetoes (primarily fiscal) were overridden.

It is easy for the collectivists to manipulate the system when we work within a collectivist system. Like it or not, today our government(s) operate on a basis of primary planning at the federal level and the states are beholding to them for their budgets and preferential placement economically, been happening for a long time- see republican party in mid 1800's, tariffs and subsidies were one factor among many that bred the resentment that culminated with the civil war Those that know that system can make any governor or representative look ineffective while making those that are destroying the economy look like saviors.

Mitt Romney is a central planner. He will promote the concept of collectivism, not to the degree that Obama does, that is little consolation. But he played for the wrong team and the players on the other side targeted him and were willing to manipulate the system to discredit him; the sad fact that they hurt others in doing so seems to be acceptable collateral damage.

25 posted on 06/12/2012 6:21:19 AM PDT by BillGunn (Bill Gunn for Congress district one rep. Massachusetts)
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To: mazda77

I get the feeling that the GOP establishment doesn’t want a true conservative (fiscal and social) nominated. I don’t see than changing in four years. I wish we had a serious third party.


26 posted on 06/12/2012 6:23:55 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: nobamanomore
Folks here hate Romney. Fine... JimRob despises him, it's his site and he sets the rules... But... I don't see him actively campaigning against Romney- he said he will vote down-ticket

Others are non-stop hate against Romney and are trying to dissuade other from voting for him... Don't they realize that depressing the vote for the top of the ticket will have a huge impact on those GOP and conservative candidates downstream?

What really bothers me is when these folks latch on to ridiculous charges made by the real enemy- the MusKenyanMarxist as though it was factual... Such as the dog riding on top of the roof (these folks said he's an animal abuser) or the incident 50 years ago (they said he's a bully and mean)... Basically, adopting the left's BS to use against Romney... If the same charges were leveled against their preferred candidate, you think they'd accept it wholesale? Right...

Romney IS a flawed candidate.. But like I keep saying... He's the ONLY person in the world standing in the way of another 4 years Of absolute disaster and annihilation

27 posted on 06/12/2012 6:28:30 AM PDT by NE Cons (Huge Palin Fan. Was a Hard-Core Perry supporter. Now Hard-Core ABO)
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To: Zakeet
How do the Obama people think they can criticize anyone on debt?
28 posted on 06/12/2012 6:29:26 AM PDT by PghBaldy (I eagerly await the next news about the struggles of Elizabeth Sacheen Littlefeather Warren.)
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To: PghBaldy
How do the Obama people think they can criticize anyone on debt?

Exactly. I wonder what the share per person is of the rampant socialist bail-out-the-public-employees stimulus bills, the nightmarish Obamacare and the billions spent on "green jobs"?
29 posted on 06/12/2012 6:50:19 AM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: Zakeet

Zero has no business criticizing anyone about debt and job creation, but the liberalism of the ‘Republican’ candidate made an ad like this inevitable.


30 posted on 06/12/2012 6:53:46 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Conservatism is not a matter of convenience.)
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To: uncbob

Then high-minded “independent” voters should put up a viable candidate instead of the jokes they’ve supplied in the past. Until they do, they can STFU and deal with the limited choices we have like the rest of us.


31 posted on 06/12/2012 7:01:16 AM PDT by edpc (Wilby 2012)
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To: uncbob

Actually by the end of his time as governor, MA. had surplus monies. Sorry obama.


32 posted on 06/12/2012 7:30:11 AM PDT by Jake8898
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To: avacado
"But is it true?"

Even if the numbers they give are true, it works out to $600 per person for four years of Romney, compared with actual numbers of $17,000 per person for four years of Obama.

33 posted on 06/12/2012 7:36:29 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: uncbob

Romney has been running the exact opposite of an apathetic campaign, many here have commented on his aggressiveness.


34 posted on 06/12/2012 7:59:47 AM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: NE Cons

“Don’t they realize that depressing the vote for the top of the ticket will have a huge impact on those GOP and conservative candidates downstream?”

Their actions make perfect sense when you take into account that most of them are democRat infiltrators.


35 posted on 06/12/2012 8:44:04 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: Zakeet

Sorry, Obama calling Mittens on a debt issue is like the worlds biggest dumbass calling someones else dumb.


36 posted on 06/12/2012 9:37:34 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: mazda77
the post turle

I love that... while hating it, too.


37 posted on 06/12/2012 9:43:40 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: ilovesarah2012
Romney’s “the president is out of touch” rings hollow to me considering Romney probably has no idea how much a gallon of milk costs.

Stupid, pointless sucker question. I'm not looking for Romney to shop for me.(Do you know what a gallon of milk costs? I guarantee you, it will vary at least a dollar depending on where you live, where you buy it and when you buy it. What's the "right" price?)

In case you are out of touch, this remark was in response to BO's asinine remark that the private sector was doing just fine, but the public sector was suffering. That's the epitome of "out of touch"

I thought most Freepers were a little more intelligent than to gripe that there's "no difference" between Romney and the Communist. B.S.! Romney isn't my first choice, either - or even my second or third. But I'd take anyone on the Republican side over this Stalin-wannabe.

BO is DANGEROUSLY stupid & power-hungry (witness what's going on in the BO "Justice" Department) and will be emboldened by a re-election. And I love to say "I told you so."

38 posted on 06/12/2012 10:09:49 AM PDT by Nevermore (...just a typical cracker, clinging to my Constitutional rights...)
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To: Jake8898

Sorry, RomneyBOT-on-his-KNEES.

Mr. RomneyCARE TANKED Massachusetts,
and the debt from RomneyCARE/ObamaCARE
and Romney’s BIG DIG coverup CONTINUE.


39 posted on 06/12/2012 10:13:14 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Nevermore

I don’t like Romney at all. I don’t like anything about him. I will only vote for him because I really, really hate Obama. I am having a difficult time seeing how a Romney presidency will change America for the better. Nevertheless, I will vote for anyone to defeat Obama.


40 posted on 06/12/2012 10:14:31 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: edpc
Yup.

Do a similar thing with Obama 's infamous line “The Private Sector is doing fine.”

: )

41 posted on 06/12/2012 10:24:22 AM PDT by Chgogal (WSJ, Coulter, Kristol, Krauthammer, Rove et al., STFU. Thank you.)
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To: Zakeet

"Thank Me!. I bet you $10,000 that my actual history
will not matter to the the MSM until October. You suckers."

42 posted on 06/12/2012 10:24:49 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Stealth Ninja

Romney - turned $3 billion deficit into $700 million surplus. Obama - $5 trillion deficits in 40 months. What is this, a saturday night live skit?


43 posted on 06/12/2012 11:19:14 AM PDT by Stealth Ninja
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To: NE Cons

Everyone, that is a true Freeper on here, should just “shut up” and get on the Romney express. We conservatives have to be successful come November and this constant ridicule has to end. We must be united or we will fail!


44 posted on 06/12/2012 11:34:50 AM PDT by V V Camp Enari 67-68 (Viet Vet)
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To: NE Cons

Mr. RomneyCARE is not the GOP candidate YET.

Romney could pull out for the sake of America
and let a REAL CONSERVATIVE take the reins.
He should apologize for backstabbing all the other
conservatives on the way out.


45 posted on 06/12/2012 11:52:22 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Diogenesis

Ok. IF he becomes the nominee... at that point, will you continue these posts?


46 posted on 06/12/2012 12:28:51 PM PDT by NE Cons (Huge Palin Fan. Was a Hard-Core Perry supporter. Now Hard-Core ABO)
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To: Diogenesis

Your FULL of sh..t!


47 posted on 06/12/2012 12:46:43 PM PDT by V V Camp Enari 67-68 (Viet Vet)
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To: Diogenesis

Your FULL of sh.t!


48 posted on 06/12/2012 12:47:07 PM PDT by V V Camp Enari 67-68 (Viet Vet)
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To: theshadow3581

Romney should be able to respond with his own ads in a way that neutralizes Obama’s attacks. With effective rebuttal ads by Romney, these attacks ads could even backfire on Obama and make him look deceptive to the voters. The facts are that during Romney’s term he turned a large budget deficit into two budget surpluses in his last two years.

On the issue of state debt, Romney should focus on the upgrade of Massachusetts’ debt rating that occurred while he was governor (while US federal debt has been downgraded during Obama’s term):

http://race42012.com/2011/08/05/sp-downgrades-american-debt/

The main reasons why Massachusetts has high levels of debt per capita are because that state also has extensive high-quality state-funded infrastructure (roads, bridges, water systems, etc) and has a very high average income level, which enables MA to easily service more debt per capita than other states. Infrastructure also costs much more to build in Massachusetts than in many other states because of higher labor costs resulting from the generally very high average income level in Massachusetts.


49 posted on 06/12/2012 2:02:05 PM PDT by socialism_stinX (We need a decline of statism and a revival of individualism and personal responsibility in America.)
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To: Zakeet
“First in debt. Forty-seventh in job creation. That’s Romney economics,” the ad says.

"See?! He's almost as bad as I am! (And you KNOW you'd rather vote for me than some rich, white Republican.)"

50 posted on 06/12/2012 2:18:21 PM PDT by newgeezer (It is [the people's] right and duty to be at all times armed. --Thomas Jefferson)
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