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Chief Apologizes To Bystanders Detained During Suspect Search
CBS 4 Denver ^ | 6-712 | Staff

Posted on 06/07/2012 6:41:24 PM PDT by atomic conspiracy

AURORA, Colo. (CBS4) – The FBI has confirmed the man arrested in connection to a bank robbery in Aurora is the suspect they were looking for and acted alone.

The suspect has been identified as Christian Paetsch, 45, of Centennial.

The Wells Fargo at Chambers and Hampden was robbed just before closing time on Saturday. Shortly afterwards police shut down the intersection of Buckley and Iliff just southeast of the bank, corralling nearly two dozen cars in search for the suspect.

Police Chief Daniel Oates on Monday apologized to the innocent bystanders that got caught up in the search for the suspect. Oates also said the ends justify the means since the suspect was caught.

About 19 vehicles were stopped Saturday afternoon for about two hours.

Oates would not discuss the tracking technology used, but called it a “virtual certainty” that the suspect was among the 40 people stopped and handcuffed.

The suspect was captured on surveillance cameras wearing a beekeeper mask and gloves. Oates said that the mask, along with two semi-automatic weapons were found in the suspect’s vehicle.

Paetsch had one previous arrest. Oates called him extraordinarily dangerous.

Oates said because of the description of the suspect a lieutenant made the decision to stop everyone in the area. Oates called the stops lawful and necessary.

“The law is clear that investigative detentions are lawful for a reasonable period of time,” Oates said. “Reasonableness is determined by the facts and circumstances at issue, and the facts and circumstances were the suspect was in one of 19 cars.”

Oats said the police department has received about five complaints regarding the methods used, but none of them came from any of the 40 people who were detained.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
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They didn't find any dogs to shoot? Good thing grandma left Fluffy at home that day.


1 posted on 06/07/2012 6:41:34 PM PDT by atomic conspiracy
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To: atomic conspiracy
"none of them came from any of the 40 people who were detained"

Take their wealth and set them adrift at sea.


2 posted on 06/07/2012 6:48:45 PM PDT by I see my hands (It's time to.. KICK OUT THE JAMS, MOTHER FREEPERS!)
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To: atomic conspiracy
Oates also said the ends justify the means since the suspect was caught.

...and if he wasn't caught?

3 posted on 06/07/2012 6:48:49 PM PDT by 11Bush
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To: atomic conspiracy
Oates also said the ends justify the means since the suspect was caught.

The wording of that statement tells us volumes about what Oates is capable of doing to innocent people to catch his bad guy. It says he would do a hell of a lot more than "detain" bystanders.

*Anyone* that makes a blanket statement as to the ends justifying the means is morally deficient and should not be in ANY position of power over other people.

4 posted on 06/07/2012 6:50:38 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: Molon Labbie

What the hell is wrong with cops? Destroy the village to save it.


5 posted on 06/07/2012 6:54:21 PM PDT by DariusBane (People are like sheep and have two speeds: grazing and stampede)
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To: atomic conspiracy

What makes those commoners think they need civil rights? Criminals come first.


6 posted on 06/07/2012 6:58:51 PM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: DariusBane
What the hell is wrong with cops? Destroy the village to save it.

There's only one remedy: sue, sue, sue!

7 posted on 06/07/2012 6:59:10 PM PDT by Fiji Hill (Deo Vindice!)
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To: atomic conspiracy
Oates also said the ends justify the means since the suspect was caught.

Then they really should have just shot all 40 suspects in the head, as this would be justified by the savings for the state in trial expenses.

8 posted on 06/07/2012 7:00:36 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: atomic conspiracy

Just all in a day of protecting the US Dollar.. someday soon, they could just follow all them home with mini-drones anyway..


9 posted on 06/07/2012 7:07:46 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: atomic conspiracy

The b@stards. And they may wonder why LEOs are held in such low regard.


10 posted on 06/07/2012 7:11:35 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: atomic conspiracy

40 sheep handcuffed by police,film at 6pm!

IF the 40 had any idea what it means to be a citizen of the United States of America they would be filing 40 lawsuits.

I have to say in light of the police actions and chief that resisting the unwarranted handcuffing would probablty meant being shot for your trouble,and the officers given awards.


11 posted on 06/07/2012 7:15:02 PM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: atomic conspiracy
"better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer"

12 posted on 06/07/2012 7:25:25 PM PDT by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: atomic conspiracy
Police Chief Daniel Oates said the ends justify the means since the suspect was caught.

Yep, that's what this country is founded on - that for the police, the end justifies the means.

Of course, the question of "what end, exactly?" might be too subtle of a consideration for Police Chief Oates and his brethren.

But I guarantee you, it isn't too subtle a question for the other 300 million potentially handcuffed at gunpoint permanent civilian suspects of this country to be contemplating - real hard.

13 posted on 06/07/2012 7:29:49 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: atomic conspiracy

next time they will shoot the vehicle’s occupants. And when they do, all the sheep will say is baaa. Judging from the second photo, it was only by the grace of God, not the “heroic” action of the “Officers” that no one was killed.


14 posted on 06/07/2012 7:33:55 PM PDT by sport
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To: atomic conspiracy
Oats said the police department has received about five complaints regarding the methods used, but none of them came from any of the 40 people who were detained.

Remember the Teflon Don? Nobody ever saw nuttin'.

15 posted on 06/07/2012 7:41:40 PM PDT by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: atomic conspiracy
Oates would not discuss the tracking technology used

If they tracked him, how come they didn't know what car he was in?

16 posted on 06/07/2012 7:43:43 PM PDT by razorback-bert (I'm in shape. Round is a shape isn't it?)
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To: atomic conspiracy

None of those people were in any danger from the bank robber until they were stopped. Then they were all bottled up with an “extraordinarily dangerous” man. Thank God he did not decide to go out shooting - that robber deserves some small credit.

And that’s not even considering the danger posed by the police.


17 posted on 06/07/2012 7:44:40 PM PDT by heartwood
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To: atomic conspiracy
Oates would not discuss the tracking technology used, but called it a “virtual certainty” that the suspect was among the 40 people stopped and handcuffed.

Are banks now slipping some type of GPS locator chip into the money? Still doesn't allow for the arrest and detention of every one in the vicinity of their "virtual certainty".

Had the bank robber gotten squirrely and started shooting, all those nice people were lined up on the curb like ducks in a shooting gallery. All so the officers could be safe.

Big, damn heroes.

18 posted on 06/07/2012 7:44:43 PM PDT by Valpal1
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To: atomic conspiracy
Bloody hell that's ugly.

I'm starting to get a case of Schadenfreude thinking about the coming pension reform, layoffs in the public sector and the demise of government unions.

19 posted on 06/07/2012 7:45:14 PM PDT by Ken H (Austerity is the irresistible force. Entitlements are the immovable object.)
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To: Ken H

Where have you been?


20 posted on 06/07/2012 7:56:11 PM PDT by sarasmom ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xZsFe6dM3EY)
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