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Christians Should "Convert, Pay Tribute, or Leave," Says Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood Candidate?
gatestoneinstitute.org/ ^ | 30MAY12 | Raymond Ibrahim

Posted on 05/30/2012 7:55:03 AM PDT by bayouranger

"They need to know that conquest is coming, that Egypt will be Islamic, and that they must pay jizya or emigrate," Morsi reportedly said.

According to the popular Egyptian website, El Bashayer, Muhammad Morsi, the Muslim Brotherhood presidential candidate, just declared that he will "achieve the Islamic conquest (fath) of Egypt for the second time, and make all Christians convert to Islam, or else pay the jizya," the additional Islamic tax, or financial tribute, required of non-Muslims, or financial tribute.

In a brief report written by Samuel al-Ashay and published by El Bashayer on May 27, Morsi allegedly made these comments while speaking with a journalist at the headquarters of the Muslim Brotherhood's Freedom and Justice Party, adding "We will not allow Ahmed Shafiq [his contending presidential candidate] or anyone else to impede our second Islamic conquest of Egypt."

After his interviewer pointed out that the first Muslim conquest of Egypt was "carried out at the hands of Amr bin al-As [in 641]," he asked Morsi, "Who will the second Islamic conqueror be?" Morsi, replied, "The second Muslim conqueror will be Muhammad Morsi," referring to himself, "and history will record it."

When asked what he thought about many Christian Copts coming out to vote for his secular opponent, Ahmed Shafiq, Morsi reportedly said, "They need to know that conquest is coming, and Egypt will be Islamic, and that they must pay jizya or emigrate."

If this interview is accurate, certainly Morsi would not be the first political Islamist in Egypt to say he wants to see the nation's Christians subjugated and made to pay jizya (see here for more examples).

However, considering that the English language media are currently reporting that Morsi is trying to woo Egypt's Christians and women to win more votes, it is difficult to imagine that he actually made those comments: one does not doubt that he favors the idea of a "second Islamic conquest" and the subjugation of Christians; one doubts that he would be so foolish as to reveal his mind now, publicly, and thereby jeopardize his chances of winning the presidency.

Then again, his remarks are reported in the context of a private meeting at the headquarters of the Brotherhood's political party. Perhaps Morsi thought he was speaking to a fellow Islamist who would not expose him? Perhaps he was frustrated at having to win Copts over and was "venting"? Stay tuned.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Egypt; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 0bamasfault; cair; crushislam; egypt; filthykoranimals; iran; islam; islamicviolence; islamofascism; israel; jihad; jizya; kenyanbornmuzzie; morsi; muslimbrotherhood; obamasfault; religionofpieces; waronterror
Stay tuned indeed.
1 posted on 05/30/2012 7:55:15 AM PDT by bayouranger
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To: bayouranger
These are obama’s people... these are the enemies we have financed and supported... we are also financing and arming insurgents in Syria... al qaeda... obama is an enemy of America, Americans, Freedom, Liberty and GOD HIMSELF!

LLS

2 posted on 05/30/2012 7:58:15 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Will the destruction of the Pyramids and the Sphinx be televised?


3 posted on 05/30/2012 8:01:18 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: bayouranger

Can you imagine the reaction if the US made such demands of Muslims?


4 posted on 05/30/2012 8:01:18 AM PDT by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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To: mountainlion

Simple trade. We’ll take all the Christians from the muslim countries. They can take back all the muslims from North America and western Europe, including Obama.


5 posted on 05/30/2012 8:03:52 AM PDT by littleharbour
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To: bayouranger

Thank goodness Obama helped oust Mubarak and let Islamic mob rule, er, I mean, “democracy” take hold in Egypt!


6 posted on 05/30/2012 8:04:31 AM PDT by risen_feenix
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To: massgopguy
Will the destruction of the Pyramids and the Sphinx be televised?

LOL! Mr. Bush...please pick up the arab spring courtesy phone.
7 posted on 05/30/2012 8:05:36 AM PDT by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: bayouranger

I think the time is NOW for all christians to fight back against the mindless hoards of Murdering Muslims.
The Muslims seem to be intent on Killing Christians everywhere..


8 posted on 05/30/2012 8:08:59 AM PDT by chatham
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To: littleharbour
Simple trade. We’ll take all the Christians from the muslim countries. They can take back all the muslims from North America and western Europe, including Obama.

That is a great idea.

9 posted on 05/30/2012 8:09:20 AM PDT by Gosh I love this neighborhood
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To: bayouranger

I would love to see what the muslim response would be if the palestinians in Israel were forced to pay an extra tax, convert or leave.


10 posted on 05/30/2012 8:10:11 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. and the economy died.)
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To: bayouranger
Hey, Muhammad Morsi, I got your jizya right here.

But you need to stay still.

11 posted on 05/30/2012 8:10:35 AM PDT by Lazamataz (People who resort to Godwin's Law are just like Hitler.)
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To: bayouranger
SO where's the UN, ACLU, Human Rights Watch and all these other lefty nut groups on this ethnic cleansing?
12 posted on 05/30/2012 8:11:34 AM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica ("We have prepared for the unbeliever, whips and chains and blazing fires!" Koran Sura 76:4)
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To: bayouranger

Obama's Arab Spring Has Sprung


13 posted on 05/30/2012 8:14:14 AM PDT by Iron Munro (If you want total security go to prison. The only thing lacking is freedom. D. D. Eisenhower)
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To: bayouranger

The Copts are true believers and even openly mark themselves as Christians in the muslim world. There are millions of them in Egypt and may be a bit tougher to eradicate than the muzzies think.


14 posted on 05/30/2012 8:14:26 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: bayouranger

Stay tuned indeed.

and when everything there turns to real crap ,the Muslims will just blame it on the West like they always do ,hmmm sounds like Obama


15 posted on 05/30/2012 8:18:17 AM PDT by molson209
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To: bayouranger

I think Muslims should convert or die.

By the way, if the Copts DO leave Egypt, I hope and pray they come HERE.

They could help educate idiot Americans about what a “peaceful” religion Islam is!!!


16 posted on 05/30/2012 8:22:54 AM PDT by ZULU (Non Nobis Domine Non Nobis Sed Nomini Tuo Da Gloriam.)
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To: bayouranger
Leave.
Leave Now.
Leave it on your feet, or in your grave.

That place is not gonna be worth living in soon anyways.

17 posted on 05/30/2012 8:28:13 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks bayouranger.


18 posted on 05/30/2012 8:28:34 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: mountainlion
>"Can you imagine the reaction if the US made such demands of Muslims?"

I'll be glad to see it when it happens.

19 posted on 05/30/2012 8:32:34 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: risen_feenix

Obama praised the overthrow of Mubarak, and how the Egyptian people will now transition to democracy, yadda, yadda, yadda.

What Obama doesn’t know, or chooses to ignore, is that the “Arab Spring” upheavals are NOT necessarily going to lead to some form of parliamentary democracy and freedom for people in these countries.

We don’t know what’s going to happen in Egypt, or Libya, or Syria. Islamic hard liners could be in control of all of these countries when the dust settles.

And if we see Islamic hard line regimes adding to the instability of the middle east, is that really a good outcome of “Arab Spring”, Mr. President??????

But, apparently we’re not supposed to think about these things. Obama praised the overthrow of governments, now let’s move on. Let’s not be concerned about what happens after revolutions happen. Let’s not look back and then wonder, was it really a good thing to see these revolutions occur.

And let’s not play back what Obama has said, because he would look foolish, praising the move to democracy and all that, when we see that democracy didn’t happen as predicted by Barack.


20 posted on 05/30/2012 8:33:47 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: bayouranger

That’s Funny, I say the same thing about the Muslim Brotherhood here in America and abroad.


21 posted on 05/30/2012 8:36:17 AM PDT by KC_Lion (I am finished with listening to empty promises of the great GOP saving me in 4 more years.)
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To: rawcatslyentist

But where are they going to go? I’d bet money that the US or Britain won’t take them.


22 posted on 05/30/2012 8:38:38 AM PDT by stellaluna
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To: bayouranger

In my opinion, these goons sound like Obama supporters.


23 posted on 05/30/2012 8:38:38 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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The way this is turning out, is exactly how Obama planned it. Egypt is becoming a totally muslim country. Obama has said nothing about the treatment of Christians in Egypt or any other country. Hmmmm I wonder why? Open your eyes and you will see.


24 posted on 05/30/2012 9:05:02 AM PDT by Gan Gan
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To: Dilbert San Diego

In the interest of fairness, George W. Bush recently stated that he too was happy with the popular uprisings in North Africa/the Middle East, the resulting regimes be damned.

So as bad as Obama may be on this, he has W.’s seal of approval.

Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.


25 posted on 05/30/2012 9:24:16 AM PDT by risen_feenix
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To: bayouranger

“Christians Should “Convert, Pay Tribute, or Leave,” Says Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood Candidate..”

OK, I’ll accept that. In Islamic states, Christians are not welcome, and should leave. This is to be expected.

But if we of The West accept that, then it becomes our right and duty to demand the same.

That is, Muslims in Western nations must “convert”, or leave.
Failing that, they should be removed from The West and returned “to the House of Islam”, by whatever means necessary.

The time is going to arrive when “discrimination” and egalitarianism no longer matter. What will matter at that point is Western, Christian, cultural and national survival.


26 posted on 05/30/2012 9:30:08 AM PDT by Road Glide
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To: stellaluna

Israel could always stand to have a few more Allies, instead of mooseSlimes.


27 posted on 05/30/2012 9:38:22 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: bayouranger

Can’t wait for the muzzies here to convert, pay their fair share or get the heck out of America.


28 posted on 05/30/2012 9:45:22 AM PDT by bgill
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To: bayouranger

In that case, Muslims in the US should also have to convert, pay tribute, or leave.....


29 posted on 05/30/2012 9:49:35 AM PDT by expat2
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To: risen_feenix

” In the interest of fairness, George W. Bush recently stated that he too was happy with the popular uprisings in North Africa/the Middle East, the resulting regimes be damned.

So as bad as Obama may be on this, he has W.’s seal of approval.”

This requires W to have another WH couch visit with Obama......


30 posted on 05/30/2012 11:12:09 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: bayouranger

Good thing we stood up to these thugs and realized who they really were during the Arab Spring.

Oh.

Wait....


31 posted on 05/30/2012 11:27:45 AM PDT by Gamecock
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To: littleharbour

“We’ll take all the Christians from the muslim countries. They can take back all the muslims from North America...”

We can give them Wyoming. We’re not really using it too much right now and there’s plenty of room for some huddled masses with yearnings for clean air.

My other idea was giving them Detroit on the condition that they clean the place up a little. Y’know, mow the lawn and stuff. The last people living there left the place a mess.

Think of the reality/TV show potential. Assyrian pioneers on the frontier of the old/new west - a Maronite DIY show about rebuilding Detroit, Rocky Mountain Copts! So many possibilities.


32 posted on 05/30/2012 12:39:58 PM PDT by Owl558 ("Those who remember George Satayana are doomed to repeat him")
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To: littleharbour

I like.


33 posted on 05/30/2012 1:06:02 PM PDT by windcliff
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To: bayouranger

Demoncracy in action. Thank you, Obama.


34 posted on 05/30/2012 2:31:50 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Road Glide
But if we of The West accept that, then it becomes our right and duty to demand the same.

I wish more people would realize that pacifism encourages evil. While there are sound arguments for a philosophy of "do unto others slightly better than they do unto you" (since such a stance will allow any animosity that exists between two parties to diminish with time), the idea that one should always do good unto others without regard for how one is treated by them is dangerous and foolish.

35 posted on 05/30/2012 3:44:50 PM PDT by supercat (Renounce Covetousness.)
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To: massgopguy

Film is evil to the evildoers... did you know that you cannot ever take a picture of a Yemeni woman? They would probably destroy the camera as well.

LLS


36 posted on 05/30/2012 4:21:50 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: Ad Orientam; antonius; aposiopetic; arielguard; blinachka; bob808; branicap; Calabash; ...
Orthodox Ping!

O heavenly King, O Comforter, the Spirit of Truth
who are in all places and fillest all things:
Treasury of good things and Giver of life:
Come and dwell in us and cleanse us from every stain,
and save our souls, O good One.

37 posted on 05/30/2012 7:26:04 PM PDT by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini--nevertheless, Vote Santorum!)
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To: stellaluna

Go next door, to Israel.


38 posted on 05/31/2012 3:01:49 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: lightman

Since we shall be celebrating Pentecost this Sunday, the prayer to the Holy Spirit “O Heavenly King”, which we have been omitting for the Pascha/Ascension season, will finally reappear.

I, who will be serving as Reader this Sunday, will be the first to chant it, at the service of the Hours before Divine Liturgy.

May our Lord and his Mother protect our Coptic Christian brothers and sisters! The muslim Brotherhood intends to carry out the final ethnic cleansing of Egypt’s original Coptic nation, leaving a pathetic Arabized shell paralyzed by the backward Muhammadan cult!!!!

There’s no reason for the United States to have any muslims at all in our country, let alone to have our White House turned into a mosque or a rabat, full of our muslim Brotherhood enemies!!!! Deport them all! Let us have no hijabs or minarets to sadden our eyes!!!!


39 posted on 05/31/2012 6:34:56 AM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: bayouranger
Somebody please introduce this reprobate to Ms. Coulter. Preferably when she is well heeled and wearing heels.
40 posted on 05/31/2012 8:33:08 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: supercat
pacifism encourages evil

Truer words were never spoken.

41 posted on 05/31/2012 8:36:34 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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