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Posted on 05/28/2012 4:32:46 PM PDT by beebuster2000
The USS Illinois, the first Navy submarine to be staffed by an all-female crew, received the support of the White House on Memorial Day.
On Monday, First Lady Michelle Obama officially sponsored the Virginia-class submarine, which will be one of the newest nuclear-powered boats scheduled to enter the fleet by 2015, according to a White House statement.
(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...
Here’s what I don’t get. Hopefully someone can explain.
We’re supposed to see this as a step forward for “civil rights” for women. Okay, perhaps it is a step since up till now, women have not been on submarines.
But, how is this a step forward in an area of “civil rights” if females are going to be segregated?
When the armed forces became fully integrated, blacks and whites were serving together in the same units. Ditto, with the end of “Don’t Ask / Don’t Tell”, openly gay service members are in the same units. They are not being segregated into a homosexual unit.
My question, and a serious question it is, is why is it okay to have gender segregation such as this all girl submarine?????
What, in your opinion, would disqualify an all female crew from “manning” a submarine?
Please be serious in your response.
The USS PMS. Don’t mess with it. Really.
This is total BS....there is NO possible way the Navy can fully man (no pun intended) a submarine with a 100% female crew. You would have to have fully qualified women from all ratings from E-1 all the way up to Commander. It would take a decade or more of a fully integrated submarine service training pipeline to produce such women. They don’t exist now, and will not by the specified 2015 date.
And, this will ultimately end in disaster. EVERY US Navy seagoing platform that has allowed women to serve has had a 30%-50% pregnancy rate—pregnancies occurring both on and off ship. Pregnant women can NOT serve on submarine, or any other combatant vessel for that matter. The instant a medical determination of pregnancy exists, that woman has to be transferred to a shore billet. What you will have is a boat that is insufficiently manned to deploy. Ain’t gonna happen.
And, BTW, have served on a submarine, I will state as fact that MOST women simply don’t have the physical stamina to do the job.
In all submarines you have people who have been to sea for 10 years. There is not the experience amoung women. A submarine is not like driving a car around.
So all male or all female crews make sense and I wish the ladies well.
Are there currently any co-ed subs to provide officers and crew already trained on a Virginia-class boat? If not, is the Navy really going to trust a new sub to a rookie crew?
And are you forgetting the higher than normal percentage of lesbians in the armed forces? You don’t think that won’t be going on on this sub?
I can’t imagine some greenhorn female officer barking orders at a 20 year sub sailor.
What part of “all female crew” did you not understand?
First thing I thought too.
The timeline is just the first problem.
The most senior officer among this women is a Lt.
Who gets fast tracked to CMDR SS in 3 years? LOL
I wonder if Obama’s daughters will be allowed to take command as a class project.
I am calling BS on the all female crew notion as reported.
There are 24 female officers in the pipeline.
You cant run a fast attack with 24 female officers alone.
RUSH: Elbert, Colorado. Richard, hello, sir. I really appreciate your patience. He's been holding on since before the program started.
CALLER: (chuckles) Thanks for taking my call, Rush.
RUSH: You bet, Richard.
CALLER: Hey, on a lighter note, do you remember back in 1989 when we had Manuel Noriega holed up in the Vatican embassy in Panama?
RUSH: Oh-ho-ho, yeah!
CALLER: Yeah.
RUSH: Pineapple face, grapefruit face. Manuel Noriega was holed up in the Papal Nuncio down there.
CALLER: Yes, sir. And the Army set up these large speakers and used loud rock 'n' roll to drive him out. It drove him nuts. Well, I've got an idea for Wisconsin right now. Someone should set up speakers at the Wisconsin statehouse but not blast rock 'n' roll. Oh, no. They need to blast this show, the Rush Limbaugh show.
RUSH: I like it. I like it! That would be just so cool: People driving through there with their car windows down and this show blaring to these protesters to hear it? What a... Oh, that would tick 'em off!
CALLER: (chuckling)
RUSH: That would send 'em over the edge.
CALLER: Yes, sir. That would drive the union thugs out.
RUSH: That would be great. Richard, thanks very much. I appreciate that reminder. That was... In fact, it was that incident, ladies and gentlemen, that actually gave birth for an idea for which came on this program: The All-American First Cavalry Amazon Battalion. You remember that, Snerdley? This is back in the early days of the women in combat argument, and we here at the EIB Network, always wanting to find compromise, came up with a way to effect this: The All-American First Cavalry Amazon Battalion. Let's see if I can remember how it worked. We all know that women, when housed or grouped together over period of time end up having their menstrual cycles synchronized. We don't know why, but we just know it happens.
Then we decided: Let certain women into the military and have the certain kinds of women be housed at the same place, the same time over a period of time and therefore we would have a combat-ready group of women on PMS whenever we needed 'em, because of the miraculousness of the synchronized menstrual cycle. Now, the All-American First Cavalry Amazon Battalion consisted of feminazis, banshees, Amazons who wanted to go into war and so forth -- and we theorized, "If you want to get Noriega out of there," 'cause did the rock music work or was it just an irritant? I forget which. It might have worked.
But we speculated here, we theorized that Noriega sitting inside the Papal Nuncio and hearing Molly Yard shout, "This is an outrage!" and looking out the window and seeing the All-American First Cavalry Amazon Battalion headed your way, you might give up and immediately surrender. That's how this program effects compromise. We've been working at this since this program started: Finding mutual ways to achieve similar goals. Maybe if driving through Madison blaring this program is a bit much, how about blaring prayers? Sort of like Friday prayers in Cairo. Just have a bunch of people on loudspeakers praying. (interruption) I know these are liberals. (laughing) It could be considered assault.
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And, BTW, have served on a submarine, I will state as fact that MOST women simply don’t have the physical stamina to do the job.
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Well, we can definitely name this the
USS FIRST SWOB
it would be the protoype
Better be careful if the galley demands an unusual amount of turkey basters.
In the ‘old days’ we weren’t allowed personal radios or other electric devices.
Would imagine a whole compartment would be needed to store the ‘other’ batteries....
I keep coming back to this... If I’m wounded in battle and Justin Bieber is wounded in battle, whether it’s on a sub or on a battlefield on the surface, and a choice had to be made by all those pro-choice ladies, which one of us would the wenches save? Sorry, the answer to that question just doesn’t sit well with me and I would never in a million years join such a fighting force.
As a former sub nukey puke...I refuse to believe this...I refuse to believe this...I refuse to believe this...my head just exploded...
feh...
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