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Bennett Backs Off Birther Threat, Apologizes To Arizona
Talking Points Memo ^ | May 22, 2012 | Nick R. Martin

Posted on 05/22/2012 4:29:57 PM PDT by Smokeyblue

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To: Smokeyblue

“verification in lieu of a certified copy” doesn’t cut it.

Bennett needs to do his job.

Ariz .Rev. Stat. 16-501, “...no person shall have his name printed on the official ballot as a candidate in a general election unless he has complied fully with the provisions of law applicable to primary elections.”

State of Arizona Presidential Preference Election Candidate Nomination Paper, which says:

“I am a natural born citizen of the United States... I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that all the information in this Nomination Paper is true, that as to these and all other qualifications, I am qualified to hold the office that I seek, having fulfilled the United States constitutional requirements for holding said office.”

Without a certified copy how can Bennett verify the candidate’s identity, citizenship, and eligibility, as entered on the Nomination Paper?

“Verification” is a joke. Bennett would have to provide information and get a yeah or nay.

Hawaii provides requested info or Obama is off the ballot.

Bennett needs to do his job or be removed from office for nonfeasance.


51 posted on 05/22/2012 5:41:38 PM PDT by Ray76
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To: mosaicwolf

There may have been threats. He may be concerned about avoiding Breitbart’s fate.


52 posted on 05/22/2012 5:41:38 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: Smokeyblue
Hawaii Five-O: Sheriff Joe sends detectives to Honolulu

http://www.wnd.com/2012/05/hawaii-five-o-sheriff-joe-sends-detectives-to-honolulu/

Regarding the Hawaii Department of Health, Arpaio noted he’s said since the beginning of the investigation last fall, “Show me the microfilm.”

“They won’t do that, so it looks like they’re hiding something,” he said.

Arpaio said he will continue his investigation regardless of whether or not Obama gets on the ballot.

53 posted on 05/22/2012 5:41:58 PM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: mosaicwolf
All they are concerned about is their own political career and advancement.

I think it goes quite a bit deeper than just being concerned about career.

54 posted on 05/22/2012 5:43:51 PM PDT by houeto (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: FreeAtlanta

Simple, Obama can not appear on ballots in Arizona.

Why is Bennett bending over backwards to get Obama on the ballot? His job is to verify information provided, not locate the info. Candidates can provide the info or not. No info, no ballot.


55 posted on 05/22/2012 5:45:23 PM PDT by Ray76
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To: BlessedBeGod

I wondered how long it would take for him to cave. I can’t say too much as our Sec State here in GA and the judge who heard the eligibility case both caved even after Obooboo’s attorney dissed them by not even showing up for the trial. There is not one state that will keep this usurper off the ballot. We just have to vote him out and hope to deal with him later.


56 posted on 05/22/2012 5:46:45 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Smokeyblue
“If I embarrassed the state, I apologize, but that certainly wasn’t my intent,”

Reminds me of an Al Qaeda hostage video, like Rush said.

57 posted on 05/22/2012 5:50:03 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Smokeyblue

Something is just not right about here! Why would bennett all of the sudden be sorry for embarrassing the state? Has this “report” been verified that Bennett said this?


58 posted on 05/22/2012 5:54:25 PM PDT by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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To: F15Eagle
The country is done for.

Not yet...one of many battles lost, but not yet the war!

59 posted on 05/22/2012 5:56:11 PM PDT by IrishPennant (Are you behind a "Blade of Grass?")
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To: sirchtruth

Radio link at the site. I haven’t listened to it.

http://ktar.com/6/1544638/Bennett-If-I-embarrassed-the-state-I-apologize

“What is so sacred or untouchable about this question that you can’t even ask the question,” he said.

SNIP

“I don’t see anything wrong with verifying something so that as many Arizonans as possible have confidence that the people that appear on the ballot are entitled to be there,” Bennett said in an interview with News/Talk 92.3 KTAR’s Mac & Gaydos.

Listen to the full interview by clicking here.


60 posted on 05/22/2012 5:58:52 PM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: precisionshootist

agreed


61 posted on 05/22/2012 6:00:22 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: justiceseeker93; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

Thanks justiceseeker93.


62 posted on 05/22/2012 6:01:20 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Smokeyblue

You have to have a birth cert. to play little league baseball, or go to school. he has never shown a true long form birth cert.....maybe in Kenya they don’t have them


63 posted on 05/22/2012 6:02:04 PM PDT by rxtn41
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To: Fred Nerks

On the immigration extension application:
“Ann S. Dunham”: Didn’t Obama senior know the name of his own wife?

I make that statement because as we know Obama’s mother’s name was “Stanley Ann Dunham”, not “Ann S. Dunham” as Obama senior wrote on the extension application.

It looks to me that Obama senior did not know his “wife”, Stanley Ann Dunham, very well.


64 posted on 05/22/2012 6:02:31 PM PDT by john mirse
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To: Ladysforest

Why heap abuse on Bennett? There are 50 (57?) states. As far as I know, Bennett is the only secretary of state who tried. What about the 49 (56?) others who did nothing?


65 posted on 05/22/2012 6:02:51 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: IrishPennant

I hope not.

If anything happens to Sheriff Joe, his Cold Case Posse, etc. the blame would have to lay at the feet of the Liberal Chicago Mob.


66 posted on 05/22/2012 6:02:51 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: rxtn41; Smokeyblue; rxsid; LucyT; Danae
You have to have a birth cert. to play little league baseball, or go to school. he has never shown a true long form birth cert.....maybe in Kenya they don’t have them

We need to get BO signed up for Little League.

67 posted on 05/22/2012 6:10:16 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: Smokeyblue

“If I embarrassed the state..”

Sounds like the RINOS at work again and more darker threats from the liberal fascists in White Hut?

Nobody in law enforcement, government is coming forward to challenge Zero; at this rate Sheriff Joe and some associates might be getting an “accident” soon. Sorry, just giving an opinion on these heathen scum who would view a simple few who dare not succumb to threats and pose a risk to Zero’s myth as hard targets. Sure it’s insane, the info would get out anyway with others of Cold Case Posse but this administration is using the nuclear option and the corrupt congress appears hijacked. Look at former CIA director William Colby’s demise after going against the Clinton admin, releasing FLIR footage over Branch Davidian Compound in Waco. Dangerous game indeed. Targets of opportunity also available for our patriotic side, although unaware if Constitutional militia is organized or have enough intel on this issue. And of course there’s the cojones factor. Regardless if more Brietbarts occur eventually a guerrilla campaign will begin as the nation falls to tyranny.


68 posted on 05/22/2012 6:11:59 PM PDT by TheBigJ
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To: justiceseeker93

One article mentioned that Mike Zullo has recently been informing Bennett about some of what the posse is finding. Let’s hope that if Bennett was threatened, he makes sure Zullo and Arpaio know about it.


69 posted on 05/22/2012 6:13:19 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Smokeyblue

What???????????????

Did someone say “Breitbart” to him or what?


70 posted on 05/22/2012 6:19:49 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: null and void

Yup.

DNA.


71 posted on 05/22/2012 6:21:55 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: butterdezillion

There was a post yesterday with some radio interview about something else coming. I was gonna listen but I can’t find the post now.

Maybe somebody remembers where it was. I think it was a real recent radio interview.


72 posted on 05/22/2012 6:22:24 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Ray76
Bennett. . .His job is to verify information provided, not locate the info. Candidates can provide the info or not. No info, no ballot.

Yes, no info, no ballot. Why isn't this the issue for every Secretary of State in the nation? Am I missing something here? Obama ponys up, or he's not on the ballot. Too simple? Or legal fact.

73 posted on 05/22/2012 6:24:28 PM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: F15Eagle

Very small solace but if this does not sway the mind of fellow conservatives that thought birthers were crazy, I don’t know what will...


74 posted on 05/22/2012 6:27:50 PM PDT by IrishPennant (Are you behind a "Blade of Grass?")
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To: john mirse

And now it's April 1964, approx one month after the divorce has been finalized, and he has a wife in the Philippines from whom he is separated, while Stanley Ann Dunham is supposedly at the University of Hawaii:

IMMIGRATION FILE

75 posted on 05/22/2012 6:33:56 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dunkum!)
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To: Smokeyblue

If true, then SOS Ken Bennett = Pussy Galore!


76 posted on 05/22/2012 6:39:41 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: butterdezillion

I’m not by any stretch a birther, but I REALLY don’t understand how Obama can get on the ballot with less ID than I needed to get a driver’s license in Arizona...or how Hawaii could complain about it.

There is no way in hell that Hawaii’s laws prevent someone in Hawaii from emailing the AZ SecState and saying, “I verify the birth certificate President Obama has shown in public is accurate and true.”

At this point, the only reason I can see is that Hawaii knows more than they are willing to admit in public...


77 posted on 05/22/2012 6:39:56 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (A conservative can't please a liberal unless he jumps in front of a bus or off of a cliff)
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To: null and void

I am ready for some DNA testing, da**it. Our society is so far (medically) advanced, yet it cannot be “proven” the seeker of the “highest” office in our land is eligible? What a bunch of bullcr*p. Of course, there was a time when one could “trust”... Or WAS there? (rhetorical question)


78 posted on 05/22/2012 6:43:18 PM PDT by lyby ("Mathematics is the language with which God has written the universe." ~ Galileo Galilei)
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To: F15Eagle

Was it this?

http://youtu.be/w1TmlpouaEw


79 posted on 05/22/2012 6:48:07 PM PDT by TheBigJ
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To: Smokeyblue

That article didn’t sound at all like the Muckraker article so I listened to the interview (direct link is http://ktar.com/resources/audio_headlines/segment_player.php?a=18068 ).

The Muckrakers are a bunch of liars. He is still saying this is a reasonable measure. He said that they changed the wording after speaking with the HI AG and Hawaii will CONSIDER verifying. His other comments were pretty much based on the assumption that HI would verify whatever it is that they’re being asked to verify.

I have a feeling that Mike Zullo and the MCSO’s deputy were at the HDOH just to give a visual reminder that whatever they verify is fair game for Arpaio to prosecute if it’s fraudulent.

Those idiots doing the interview, though, should be in the hot spot. I would give a lot just to be able to dissect them the way they tried to dissect Bennett. First question: Did you watch the entire press conference by Sheriff Joe’s Cold Case Posse? If they say no then the question is why not? And then what makes you think that you are qualified to even MENTION the eligibility issue when you are not even conversant in the language? You can’t do advanced algebra if you haven’t even mastered the basic fact of 1+1=2, and if you don’t even know the facts then you are less qualified to talk about this than a baby is to do brain surgery. I’d ask them whether their talk about the Tea Party not being who will get Bennett elected means that they believe Bennett should pander to the 99% who never bothered to e-mail Bennett (because they care so much about this issue..... yeah, right....) Their whole argument was about appearances. How dare you ask something that is not thought to be a valid question by people like us? I’d ask them about their arrogance, and whether they would want the 99% of the people to perform brain surgery on them, or whether they would rather have somebody who KNOWS the ins and outs of the brain.

This is why I can’t listen to the radio or watch TV most of the time. It physically hurts to have to hear stupidity like those 2 clowns pretending that they have any argument that wouldn’t be right at home in the kiddie pool. What they were saying was sheer Alinsky.

Anyway, I encourage people to listen to the interview. The Muckrakers have listening comprehension disabilities, apparently. That whole interview was the hosts saying the issue is stupid and Ken Bennett explaining why it’s not stupid.


80 posted on 05/22/2012 6:54:13 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: F15Eagle
This one should be it:


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"Bill Cunningham - Where's the Birth Certificate?

The Jerome Corsi interview is from approx. 16:40-30:00 minute mark.

137 posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2012 10:24:33 AM by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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Corsi has also been on the Peter Boyles show (and podcasted), and he has been on a persona non grata at FR guy's show.

81 posted on 05/22/2012 7:04:50 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Smokeyblue

Everyone is looking for who got to him too far from home. McCain said that Obama will be on the ballot...so my guess is that is who made the call.


82 posted on 05/22/2012 7:10:31 PM PDT by Ironfocus (Unseat the Looter-in-Chief)
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To: Mr Rogers

Especially when all the media articles either say that Hawaii has ALREADY verified Obama’s brith facts repeatedly, or say that Hawaii actually even RELEASED the BC. If either of those were the case, then what’s their hangup right now? If Fukino really and truly VERIFIED that Obama was born in Hawaii, as everybody claims she did through her statement, then why would she balk at doing for somebody authorized to receive it (such as Ken Bennett) after having put out for everybody in the world. It’s like a whore being too “pure” to consummate her own marriage on her wedding night.

Everybody really should read the HHS IG’s report on birth certificate fraud. It strongly recommends that states require more than one form of proof for determining eligibility for things, especially when much is at stake. And it recommends that if there are ANY signs of possible tampering with a vital record, ALL the vital records and citizenship documents be audited. That report is at http://oig.hhs.gov/oei/reports/oei-07-99-00570.pdf

The same questions come up when you realize that the HDOH refuses to let Duncan Sunahara see either the original or a photocopy of his deceased sister’s birth certificate. What legitimate reason would there be for refusing to let him see his own deceased sister’s record?

But then, the same thing was going on back in August-October of 2009 - when it took us 3 months to get Fukino to post on her website the HDOH Administrative Rules WHICH ARE REQUIRED BY LAW TO BE POSTED THERE AT ALL TIMES.

I could go on and on for a long time but I think you get the picture. I could also get very, very specific on the ways the HDOH has broken laws - for instance, altering Virignia Sunahara’s birth record in the database so that it was under somebody else’s name and no record showed up for her when somebody queried the database for her name. Or altering the 1960-64 birth index to include legally non-valid BC’s...


83 posted on 05/22/2012 7:11:35 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: biggredd1

That is a very interesting site.

https://wtpotus.wordpress.com/2012/01/23/obama-is-born-again-two-kenyan-hospitals-provide-bcs/


84 posted on 05/22/2012 7:13:00 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Red Steel; TheBigJ

Thanks guys I’ll check them out


85 posted on 05/22/2012 7:20:32 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: butterdezillion

Worth repeating:

“It’s like a whore being too “pure” to consummate her own marriage on her wedding night.”

;>)


86 posted on 05/22/2012 7:21:02 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (A conservative can't please a liberal unless he jumps in front of a bus or off of a cliff)
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Snuffleupagus


87 posted on 05/22/2012 7:23:41 PM PDT by Jenny217
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To: Smokeyblue

I predicted this very thing 24 hours ago!

If I had in dollars, the difference between what some of these bureaucrats are actually worth to our country and what they THINK they’re worth, I could give $10 Million to World Missions every year until Jesus comes back, and never miss the money!

What sort of mentality does it take for a guy to beat his chest and threaten all the godawful things he’s going to do if people don’t cooperate; and 24 hours later he’s whimpering like John Boner, twisting his lace-trimmed hankie around his fingers and apologizing to everyone but the janitor?!


88 posted on 05/22/2012 7:25:28 PM PDT by Tucker39 ( Psa 68:19Blessed be the Lord, who daily loadeth us with benefits; even the God of our salvation.KJV)
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To: Smokeyblue
Alfalfa caves.


89 posted on 05/22/2012 7:30:54 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Anyone who thinks we can sit home, then survive four more years of Obama, is a damned fool.)
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To: All

bookmark! Another frustrating run around!


90 posted on 05/22/2012 7:36:53 PM PDT by jcsjcm (This country was built on exceptionalism and individualism. In God we Trust - Laus Deo)
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To: CitizenUSA

Why bother trying if you won’t even TRY? Yes, the rest should step up - there should be requirements in place even - but since there are not, these guys need to recognize the problem and step up.


91 posted on 05/22/2012 7:43:27 PM PDT by Ladysforest
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To: Mr Rogers
I’m not by any stretch a birther, but I REALLY don’t understand how Obama can get on the ballot with less ID than I needed to get a driver’s license in Arizona...or how Hawaii could complain about it.

I suspect the issue is that all candidates get on the ballot that way. And that Hawaii is not happy about one of their "native sons" being questioned when those born in other states are not. Especially since Hawaii already made a statement about this.

I think that's what Hawaii is talking about with the emphasis on

but none, as far as I can tell, establish the authority of the Secretary of State to maintain and update official lists of persons in the ordinary course of his activities.
I may be wrong, but I think she's saying "prove to me you're doing this for all candidates, then we'll talk."
92 posted on 05/22/2012 7:54:30 PM PDT by sometime lurker
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To: butterdezillion
"His other comments were pretty much based on the assumption that HI would verify whatever it is that they’re being asked to verify."

The last question from the Nazi Journalist asked if Obama would be on the ballot even if Hawaii didn't cooperate and Bennett said yes that he would be.

I don't expect any cooperation of any value coming from Hawaii based upon hearing this. About all we can hope for is that they have better information about who is making the threat deliveries. Perhaps this was actually the goal.

93 posted on 05/22/2012 7:54:45 PM PDT by Uncle Sham
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To: null and void
Thanks for the Ping.

After what happened in GA, I've come to expect public officials at all levels to abdicate their duty on this issue. Bennett actually lasted longer than I expected him to.

94 posted on 05/22/2012 8:00:39 PM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: RandallFlagg

NO!

So you and I will have to.


95 posted on 05/22/2012 8:05:06 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Fred Nerks
Extension application contains very suspicious, strange details:

Aug. 9, 1961: Date authorized stay expires

Aug. 31, 1961: Extension signed by Obama senior

Address: 1482 Alencastre St., Honolulu

If married , Give name and address of children ---BLANK

I found the details above suspicious for the following reasons:

1. Aug. 4, 1961: Obama's supposedly birth date at Kapiolani hospital was only 5 days BEFORE Obama senior's "Aug. 9, 1961 Date authorized stay expires".

2. Coincidence or not? I let you be the judge. To me, it looks awfully suspicious.

3. Aug. 31, 1961: Obama signs extension, but he leaves a BLANK space for "If married, Give name and address of children", even though Obama II was born ONLY 27 days BEFORE Obama senior filled out the extension form. I find that strange, that is, I find it strange that Obama senior did not list his son who was born ONLY 27 days BEFORE Obama senior filled out the extension.

4. Home address is different from the address listed on Obama's LONG FORM CERTIFICATE, even though the extension was filled out by Obama senior only 27 days AFTER Obama II was supposedly born at Kapiolani hospital on Aug. 4, 1961.

5. Address on extension form is 1482 Alencastre St., Honolulu, while the address on the long form birth certificate is different.(I don't have the address on the long form birth certificate before me right now, but most of you know what it is.)

6. (1) No children listed and (2)home address is different from what is on the long form birth certificate just 27 days AFTER Obama II was supposedly born at Kapiolani: Those are the two items that I found most suspicious.

7. Obama's parents NOT living together? Because the address on the extension form is different from the address on the long form birth certificate---even though Obama's birth occurred only 27 days BEFORE Obama senior filled out the extension form---it looks to me that Obama's father and mother were NOT living together when Obama II was supposedly born on Aug. 4, 1961 at Kapiolani Hospital.

96 posted on 05/22/2012 8:29:11 PM PDT by john mirse
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To: TheBigJ

nice link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1TmlpouaEw&feature=youtu.be

has anyone seen this DVD...or excerpts on youtube?

“Dreams of my Real Father”

http://superstore.wnd.com/Dreams-from-my-Real-Father-DVD


97 posted on 05/22/2012 8:32:14 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: john mirse

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jrrnkKmUzo


98 posted on 05/22/2012 8:40:59 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: john mirse

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jrrnkKmUzo

Re: Dreams of my Real Father

Frank Marshall Davis?


99 posted on 05/22/2012 8:42:02 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: sometime lurker

How about just for candidates who post from the White House (in a nationally-televised press conference) forged documents (which the HDOH is willing to APPEAR to “validate”)?

You know, “the squeaky wheel gets the oil” kind of thing. Believe it or not, but it is legal to discriminate on the basis of actions. That’s why some people are in jail...


100 posted on 05/22/2012 8:59:46 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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