Skip to comments.Trayvon Martin case 911 call: Two experts reach two very different conclusions
Posted on 05/20/2012 8:03:18 AM PDT by ironman
Expert No. 1
One of those experts is Alan R. Reich, and his answer is that he is certain he can hear a young man he concludes is Martin pleading for his life, from the start of the 45-second recording until the end.
Expert No. 2
Another way to consider the 45-second recording is the way James J. Ryan considers it.
Ryan is the retired head of the FBI forensic audio, video and image analysis unit. He said even the best audio forensic expert in the world using the most sophisticated equipment available would have a difficult time determining much at all from a recording of such degraded quality.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
And that is my expert opinion.
Is anyone keeping a Trayvon count as in how many thugs get Trayvoned each day?
Not enough proof for any conviction. IMO
A whisper to the Post: This is what is called “reasonable doubt”.
I wish they’d stop pretending (in many cases, not just this one) that if one expert says one thing and another expert says the opposite, then the opinions cancel out, instead of the seemingly fruitless duel being in fact very helpful to the defendant.
I’d guess the guy yelling “Stop” was probably the same guy who was getting his head bashed in.
Reich is either a whack job or a far left ideologue letting his political beliefs cloud his reason. Either way I doubt if any judge would allow his monstrously manipulated recordings be admitted as evidence.
I mean, come on, he found all of this in a sound file DOWNLOADED from the Internet? He’s driven by ideology to do his part to support the MSM’s, and Martin’s parents, fictional version of events.
Word is the prosecution intends to call one of Florida's finest experts to get the answers directly from Trayvon himself ... just as you Silly Freepers thought the case against Zimmerman couldn't get any more ridiculous!
I think the important thing that nobody seems to point out in any of these types of stories is - why would Trayvon have been screaming? Since he had no physical injuries other than the gunshot would and a scrape on his finger (in other words, Zimmerman never hit Trayvon - all the pre-shooting damage was inflicted BY Trayvon against Zimmerman), the only plausible explanation would be that Zimmerman was holding him at gunpoint, and Trayvon was so fearful of being executed that he was screaming for help.
That fails, though, first because I don’t think a normal reaction to being held at gunpoint is to scream for help like that. I think you’d shut up and do whatever the guy told you to do. More importantly, it fails because it is contradicted by eyewitness testimony. Nobody claimed to see anything like this, and John told police that Zimmerman was on the ground being beaten.
Yeah but he took it back when BabyMomma and their scumbag lawyer started explaining the economics of the situation,”Yo, you needs to STFU foo, we’s gonna be rich if we plays dis right”.
OK, so Martin is straddling Zimmerman rearranging his face and slamming his head into the concrete and we’re supposed to believe Martin is screaming for help?
What kind of help was he screaming for? Was he tired and needed someone to help him continue assault Zimmerman?
Actually, TM was a well mannered little chap, and generous to others. He was having a grand ol’ time, and wanted to share his experience of bashing a guy into the curb with other like minded well mannered little chaps.
If the words on the tape are:
“Someone come help me beat down this MF White Hispanic”, then it is Trayvon...that is my contribution to the Alan R. Reich analysis.
Of course it all makes sense! Tayvon’s kiai sounds just like “help!” /s
Zimmerman is clearly guilty: he’s white.
We all know white men are dangerous and judge others by skin color.
My recollection, too. All that means is that the Florida Special Prosecutor can add another charge to the 2nd Degree Murder Charge....A CHARGE OF RACIST PLAGIARISM!
Wasn’t it later in the evening? Probably should charge Z with disturbing the peace as well... yelling and screaming with decent folk trying to go to sleep for the night. And then the blast of a handgun... shattering the peace and quite of all the neighbors.
Martin: STOP hitting yourself....STOP hitting yourself
A family member already said it is NOT Trayvon yelling for help.
Now, now, you know it was T-Ray hollering for help when he happened up that crazy white hispanic bashing his own head on the sidewalk. Poor kid was yelling for someone to please help him hold the guy's head off the cement.
If the truth be known, Zimmerman exercized a lot of control and restraint yelling for help and waiting for someone to help him before shooting Trayvon. If you feel your life is in danger, you do not need to be getting your head pounded into pavement before shooting the person in self defense.
Along the same lines, I’m thinking the guy who yelled, “What the F_” was interrupted by a fist breaking his nose.
Come on, no one, not even the die hardest libs beleives Zimmerman just cold blooded shot Martin. Any jury will roll their eyes the whole damn trial and NOT GUILTY him within 5 minutes, if it actually ever gets to court. Its just a convienent opportunity to pull the race card and have it drug out from now until election day.
If this “opportunity” had not come along they would just use the next or the next.
If this sorry case ever goes to trial, I would assume that jurors will ignore the tapes and the experts opinions based on the fact that the recordings are practically unintelligible and the ‘experts’ can’t agree on their content.
Martin’s father said this to the police at the beginning of the first investigation and it’s been documented. Later after the hustlers got involved Martin’s parents said it was him.
What a surprise, more pablum from the WaPo propagandists.
Martin was a self described “Thug” with behavioral problems.
Martin was on suspension for drug use.
Martin had illegal drugs in his system.
Martin was in a gated community in which he did not reside.
Martin beat Zimmerman.
Zimmerman lived in the neighborhood.
Zimmerman was on neighborhood patrol because of a rash of break-ins.
Zimmerman was legally armed.
Zimmerman called the police.
Zimmerman followed so that police could find Martin.
Zimmerman was told that police “did not need” him to follow Martin, not an order.
Mainstream media did not reveal all of the facts for weeks. Race baiters Al Sharpton and Jesse “mumbles” Jackson stirred up anger within the black community with no evidence.
Trumped up racism charges based on NOTHING.
Rags like this cater to the idiocy of black stereotypes by giving a forum to fools that when Zimmerman is acquitted, will destroy their OWN neighborhoods just to show “the man”. They have already convicted Zimmerman of murder and will hear no evidence to the contrary. THAT is the true story of racism; reverse racism by the black community looking for excuses for the actions of black youth.
Unfortunately, there's too many dumbasses in the news today named Reichhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh-uh.
Yep. Thanks for responding. The court of public opinion is wide open. The truth will bury the DA.
Note how Mara asked the detectivve if Zim made his statements before knowing what other evidence was out there. I suspect he is setting up a contrast to what DeeDee and Martin Sr. did.
“The dispatcher told him to stop”
Is it to much to ask that the WP not publish lies?
He was NEVER TOLD TO STOP.
What the hell is wrong with these people?