Trayvon Martin case 911 call: Two experts reach two very different conclusions

Wash Post ^ | 19 May 2012 | Stephanie McCrummen and Sari Horwitz

[ironman]

Expert No. 1

One of those experts is Alan R. Reich, and his answer is that he is certain he can hear a young man he concludes is Martin pleading for his life, from the start of the 45-second recording until the end.

Expert No. 2

Another way to consider the 45-second recording is the way James J. Ryan considers it.

Ryan is the retired head of the FBI forensic audio, video and image analysis unit. He said even the best audio forensic expert in the world using the most sophisticated equipment available would have a difficult time determining much at all from a recording of such degraded quality.

[ironman]

1200+ comments already

[ClearCase_guy]

When I hear the tape, I hear someone in the background say, "My name is Trayvon Martin, and I'm gonna git you sucka!"

And that is my expert opinion.

[meatloaf]

Is anyone keeping a Trayvon count as in how many thugs get Trayvoned each day?

[TribalPrincess2U]

Not enough proof for any conviction. IMO

[jiggyboy]

A whisper to the Post: This is what is called “reasonable doubt”.

I wish they’d stop pretending (in many cases, not just this one) that if one expert says one thing and another expert says the opposite, then the opinions cancel out, instead of the seemingly fruitless duel being in fact very helpful to the defendant.

[Salamander]

I’d guess the guy yelling “Stop” was probably the same guy who was getting his head bashed in.

[MtBaldy]

Reich is either a whack job or a far left ideologue letting his political beliefs cloud his reason. Either way I doubt if any judge would allow his monstrously manipulated recordings be admitted as evidence.

I mean, come on, he found all of this in a sound file DOWNLOADED from the Internet? He’s driven by ideology to do his part to support the MSM’s, and Martin’s parents, fictional version of events.

[Zakeet]

Word is the prosecution intends to call one of Florida's finest experts to get the answers directly from Trayvon himself ... just as you Silly Freepers thought the case against Zimmerman couldn't get any more ridiculous!

[Okieshooter]

“Most trial lawyers believe, and most psychologists who study the way that people process information believe, that once people interpret something in a certain way, once they begin to believe something, they become committed to that,” he said. “And if they become committed, it’s hard to change their minds.”

[Chode]

the mutts own father said it's NOT No-Limit-XXXXXX

[RightFighter]

I think the important thing that nobody seems to point out in any of these types of stories is - why would Trayvon have been screaming? Since he had no physical injuries other than the gunshot would and a scrape on his finger (in other words, Zimmerman never hit Trayvon - all the pre-shooting damage was inflicted BY Trayvon against Zimmerman), the only plausible explanation would be that Zimmerman was holding him at gunpoint, and Trayvon was so fearful of being executed that he was screaming for help.

That fails, though, first because I don’t think a normal reaction to being held at gunpoint is to scream for help like that. I think you’d shut up and do whatever the guy told you to do. More importantly, it fails because it is contradicted by eyewitness testimony. Nobody claimed to see anything like this, and John told police that Zimmerman was on the ground being beaten.

[MtBaldy]

Yeah but he took it back when BabyMomma and their scumbag lawyer started explaining the economics of the situation,”Yo, you needs to STFU foo, we’s gonna be rich if we plays dis right”.

[Chode]

yo...

[umgud]

OK, so Martin is straddling Zimmerman rearranging his face and slamming his head into the concrete and we’re supposed to believe Martin is screaming for help?

What kind of help was he screaming for? Was he tired and needed someone to help him continue assault Zimmerman?

[C210N]

Actually, TM was a well mannered little chap, and generous to others. He was having a grand ol’ time, and wanted to share his experience of bashing a guy into the curb with other like minded well mannered little chaps.

[BilLies]

If the words on the tape are:
“Someone come help me beat down this MF White Hispanic”, then it is Trayvon...that is my contribution to the Alan R. Reich analysis.

[ironman]

Of course it all makes sense! Tayvon’s kiai sounds just like “help!” /s

[UCANSEE2]

and wanted to share his experience of bashing a guy into the curb with other like minded well mannered little chaps.

[Tzimisce]

Zimmerman is clearly guilty: he’s white.

We all know white men are dangerous and judge others by skin color.

[JPG]

IIRC, Z told the Sanford police something like (paraphrase)..”I cried out for help but nobody came to help me.”