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Owner of solar-powered home fights neighbor's trees, gains little ground - "Right to sunlight"
Tampa Bay - St. Petersburg Times ^ | May 20, 2012 | Will Hobson

Posted on 05/20/2012 7:21:57 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

LARGO — Last summer, Mike Zwalley put a $65,000 solar energy system on his roof. The system — a 30-gallon solar water heater and 44 black panels that convert sunlight into electricity — cut Zwalley's electric bill from $300 to $400 per month to $10 to $20.

About two months after Zwalley installed the system at his waterfront home off Indian Rocks Road, his next-door neighbor planted three cypress trees, each about 10 feet tall, along his property line.

Zwalley, a 58-year-old car salesman, was not happy. He had asked the neighbor, Wade Gibson, not to plant the trees there.

Zwalley found several websites that estimated the trees would grow to between 70 and 100 feet. At that height, they could cast shade on Zwalley's solar panels.

Gibson told Zwalley that he did not think the trees would get that big, but if they did, Gibson would take care of it, according to Zwalley.

That answer wasn't good enough for Zwalley. He called city management. He called state legislators. He called legal experts. They all gave him different forms of the same answer: In Florida, the law is not on your side.

It would be in a few other states, though.

As energy costs continue to rise, legal experts say courts should expect more battles over solar panels and a property owner's rights, or lack thereof, to sunlight.

"We're going to see more and more, and if it's on your rooftop or in your back yard, you're going to be concerned about your neighbor growing trees," said Scott Anders, director of the Energy Policy Initiatives Center in San Diego. "And growing trees is a good thing, right?"

If Zwalley lived in any of the following places,...

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: environment; green; lawyers; regulations; sucker
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I can’t believe the guy murdered an oak tree to put the solar panels up!!!


121 posted on 05/20/2012 4:47:42 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: mvpel

But then he’d first have to be cured of his ecological disorder.


122 posted on 05/20/2012 4:48:49 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

First Hurricane to go ripping roofs off in the area is going to make a nice glass confetti of the panels.


123 posted on 05/20/2012 4:50:59 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: hocndoc

“but he is responsible for his intentional actions that create shade that covers *his* neighbor’s house and that solar array.”

Nope. Not in Florida.


124 posted on 05/20/2012 4:56:40 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Sudetenland

Tell me about it. My bill this month was $296 and that was with a $98 credit. Of course, my bill is light, gas, water, trash pickup and sewage, plus a couple of other small fees.

By July and Aug, it will be over $400.


125 posted on 05/20/2012 5:32:07 PM PDT by packrat35 (When will we admit we are now almost a police state?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The guy is a fool.

Even if he really saving $350 a month on electricity this thing will never pay for itself.


126 posted on 05/20/2012 5:53:12 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“Gibson told Zwalley that he did not think the trees would get that big, but if they did, Gibson would take care of it, according to Zwalley.

That answer wasn’t good enough for Zwalley.”

What a great neighbor “Sue-First, Ask Questions Later” Zwalley is.


127 posted on 05/20/2012 6:13:51 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: muawiyah

>properly treated the ROI computation will be quite beneficial to him.

Don’t try to sell me on that ROI computation unless you are willing to buy this cheap bridge I have for sale - it has a GREAT ROI :)


128 posted on 05/20/2012 6:54:01 PM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: SunTzuWu
With all the gubbermint subsidies and credits, he isn't paying that $300 per month--we are. Savings, my a&&.
129 posted on 05/20/2012 7:07:03 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Stalwart
On his roof, wearing flip-flops.

Aren't flip-flops, like, Florida's official state shoe?

130 posted on 05/20/2012 7:09:22 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: mountn man
Did he get a tax credit? That would reduce that 65K to about 35K if he got 55% off of fed tax.

Suppose inflation hits and energy costs double. Suppose energy gets hard to get at any price.

Now, re-do the figures.

Planting those trees, of that type, seems really spiteful.

131 posted on 05/20/2012 7:11:59 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

What is Zwalley so effed up about? He’ll be dead before those trees could be large enough to have a significant effect on his solar power.


132 posted on 05/20/2012 7:28:24 PM PDT by Post Toasties (Leftists give insanity a bad name. 0bama: Four years of failure and fingerpointing.)
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To: Rebelbase

I understand that is the case legally. However, morally, he is.


133 posted on 05/20/2012 9:25:30 PM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed, not afraid to use it. Hold Rs to promises, don't watch O keep his.)
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To: Gay State Conservative
As the wise sage, Kermit has said: "It's not easy being green."
134 posted on 05/20/2012 10:47:00 PM PDT by gigster (Cogito, Ergo, Ronaldus Magnus Conservatus)
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To: SunTzuWu

It also assumes the money was free.


135 posted on 05/20/2012 11:17:49 PM PDT by DB
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To: Sudetenland
Welcome to the real world of living in the South. In Houston I've been paying over $300/mo. for a couple of decades during the summer months--which run from mid-April-October.

I'm from California. I recently moved back to Maryland after spending 3 years in Texas (near San Antonio). I have *never* had bills over $300/mo. Now that I'm back in MD, I have had some "shell shock" over a couple of bills that were over $200--higher than I've ever paid.

To me, high bills suggest that the house isn't properly insulated. There are plenty of things one can do to reduce one's electric bill.

136 posted on 05/21/2012 3:34:19 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: Gaffer

Another idiot.

First off the sun is probably pretty much over head most of the year. Secondly, a $65,000 system should track the trajectory of the sun, it looks like his are passive and straight up. And lastly, someone has already pointed out that Mr. Solar will break even in 18 years.


137 posted on 05/21/2012 5:01:15 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Judge - "Hmmmmm..."? Whos "right's will I trample on today?" "On one hand we have a friggin moonbat that has turned his home into a Frankenstein of an eyesore for his neighbors and on the other hand we have a neighbor that has an excellent solution to his problem without burning down his neighbors house or taking him to court to get him to beautify his home."

"Aaaahhhhh.... What to do? What to do?"

"WAIT JUST A MINUTE! Did I just say that the tree planting neighbor was wishing to by-pass the court system to solve his problem? OOOOOOOH that really pisses me off. How dare he think he can resolve issues with others without my council?! If everyone solved their own problems I wouldn't have a job. Jerks like this don't have any rights. He's friggin lucky I can't have him drawn and quartered. I'm going to give him 30 minutes to remove those trees or else he'll be fined a million dollars a day. Ha... That'll even make der fuhrer mr. obomba happy. Imagine how happy he'll be when he sees how I've increased his revenues and handled this dissident.

I'm so smart. Maybe I'll be his newest czar or his next Supreme Court nominee?..."
138 posted on 05/21/2012 6:02:55 AM PDT by Whats-wrong-with-the-truth (Romney (aka - obomney)... Just put the (D) behind your name and be done with it.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"Mike Zwalley put a $65,000 solar energy system on his roof."

LOL... $65,000 to save $300 a month? Damn... It's going to take him 18.5 years to realize a savings.

Do solar panels last that long? LOL...

What a friggin moron.

139 posted on 05/21/2012 6:07:18 AM PDT by Whats-wrong-with-the-truth (Romney (aka - obomney)... Just put the (D) behind your name and be done with it.)
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To: muawiyah
"An even easier solution is to plant something that harbors pests that like to eat your neighbor's trees.

Or, simply cut off any branches that extend over your lot ~ lawful everywhere in America if not in most of the world.
"

I think you're missing the point. This putz is ticked off that Johnny Appleseed didn't get his permission before planting his trees.

I'll bet a years wages the moonbat sun worshiper didn't get Johnny Appleseed's permission to place that big ugly solar wart in the middle of the block.

Liberals are such hypocrites. They kick sand in your face then get made when you get up and kick their a**.

140 posted on 05/21/2012 6:17:03 AM PDT by Whats-wrong-with-the-truth (Romney (aka - obomney)... Just put the (D) behind your name and be done with it.)
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