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Mexican officials report 49 bodies dumped on highway to US border
Washington Post ^ | May 13, 2012

Posted on 05/13/2012 12:10:24 PM PDT by Pinkbell

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To: Eleutheria5

By the way we’re not an adequate world super power anymore. We haven’t been one since Clinton was president and the first WTC bombing. We’re a world super power in name only.


51 posted on 05/13/2012 3:38:37 PM PDT by brent13a (Glenn Beck is an a$$hat.)
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To: brent13a

Well, then, I submit to you that your present security is illusory. Sooner or later, they’ll be moving up from Mexico, and your family will be killed in the crossfire anyway. This is what happens in medicine when a body doesn’t want to undertake chemo or surgery before a cancer metastacizes.

The American border is threatened to the South. The thing to do is send troops South, and stop expecting policemen to operate effectively outside of their jurisdiction, at the sufferance of a compromised foreign government that is their host. The Mexican government can either ally itself with the US, or with the cartels, but the US must invade their compounds and kill, not arrest them.

If the government of Mexico has a problem with that, then the US can make war on them as well. I don’t think they will have a problem. In fact, I’d expect them to be an ally, and say so as if it were a given. They would at least pretend it’s so, in order to save face. Then anyone who is caught collaborating with a cartel can be purged from the ranks of Mexican politics/military/law enforcement. If this be imperialism, then make the best of it.


52 posted on 05/13/2012 3:47:03 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: brent13a

Then move to Australia. That should be safe for a while.


53 posted on 05/13/2012 3:51:45 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: brent13a

People are being killed by the hundreds because of policies you support. Wouldn’t it be funny if some of their family members decided to come after you?

I think it would be.


54 posted on 05/13/2012 3:56:13 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer, but when it is, it is the only answer.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Um it could be dealt with before it eventually moved up here. But progressives and libertarians don’t want to deal with it proactively, save for the failed “legalize drugs” solution.

The solution isn’t capitualtion, which is the ‘legalize drugs’ theory.


55 posted on 05/13/2012 3:58:13 PM PDT by brent13a (Glenn Beck is an a$$hat.)
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To: brent13a

“Legalize drugs” can’t have failed, because it hasn’t been tried. But I’m not advocating legalizing drugs, only pot, and if you haven’t noticed, I’m not couching it in terms of capitulation. On the contrary, you are the one who seems to be advocating capitulation, or even worse, appeasement as defined by Churchill. There is your neighbor, Mexico, being eaten by crocodiles. Save your neighbor, so you won’t be eaten at all, let alone for dessert. The cartels are a military threat. Take them on. Super power is as super power does.

And while you’re at it, take away some income from the cartels by legalizing pot. I have a friend in America who has an entire room of his house set aside for hydroponic cultivation, as soon as it gets legalized. I don’t think the cartels have his address.


56 posted on 05/13/2012 4:23:05 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Pinkbell

Holder’s fault.


57 posted on 05/13/2012 4:32:51 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: AAABEST

“You’re saying these people will stop chopping others to pieces once they realize it’s bad for tourism?”

Oh no. I’m saying that once the Mexican government realizes it is killing the tourist trade they’ll stop it.

I could be wrong, of course. But I don’t see what else can be done.

I don’t see how legalizing drugs in the US would bring an end to the violence, unless we restricted legal drugs to those produced within the US. I wouldn’t want to reward these people with any kind of open market.

I’m not big on drug legalization, I’d support marijuana legalization, but that’s as far as I’d go.


58 posted on 05/13/2012 5:32:53 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: Pinkbell

While I may agree decriminalizing pot may weaken drug cartels somewhat. To claim it will stimulate the economy is just silly. The stuff can be grown just about anywhere and people will simply grow their own. It’s not like it requires much more effort than growing tomatoes.


59 posted on 05/13/2012 6:19:56 PM PDT by TruthBeforeAll (To a liberal any Gov. program that is an utter failure is only so because there's not enough of it.)
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To: brent13a
So explain why medical marijuana providers are not being attacked by the cartels. In CA alone, sales are around $1B per year.

If your explanation held any water, they should be a big fat target.

60 posted on 05/13/2012 6:37:19 PM PDT by Ken H (Austerity is the irresistible force. Entitlements are the immovable object.)
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I wonder how many average Hispanics even living here are afraid of the cartels and are careful about not offending them.
61 posted on 05/13/2012 10:29:00 PM PDT by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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To: Pinkbell

Poppy production in Afghanistan is twice the pre-war rate and four times the wartime low.

We now have a privately contracted air force with world wide infrastructure to fly around persons of interest.

The US government via Fast-n-Furious is running guns into Mexico, why supply both sides? Unless of coarse your goal is destabilization in general?

PRODUCTION - TRANSPORTATION - DISTRIBUTION

Nothing this crazy has happened since, well, Iran Contra. Except maybe this time the goal isn’t to fund an idealistic battle against communism, maybe this time it’s just simple greed.


62 posted on 05/14/2012 8:24:32 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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