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Shades of red in North Carolina
The Hill ^ | May 11, 2012 | Emily Goodin

Posted on 05/12/2012 4:43:47 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued

Mitt Romney made a hastily arranged trip to Charlotte, N.C., on Friday, and not just because that city is the site of the Democratic National Convention.

It's because North Carolina looks to be leaning red.

President Obama won the state four years ago but his decision to publicly endorse same-sex marriage this week could cost him the Tar Heel state, especially as his announcement came the day after the state rejected an amendment legalizing gay marriage.

The Republican National Committee circulated a memo on the state, arguing that the retirement of high-profile Democratic lawmakers in the North Carolina, a sexual harassment scandal dogging the state Democratic Party leadership and the campaign finance corruption trial of former presidential candidate John Edwards means that "the Tar Heel State is a major headache for Chicago."

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: 2012dncconvention; 2012swingstates; bho2012; romneync; samesexmarriage

1 posted on 05/12/2012 4:43:49 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued
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To: fieldmarshaldj; Impy; GOPsterinMA; BillyBoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29tGnRtlwwU


3 posted on 05/12/2012 4:44:49 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Obama and Company lied, the American economy died)
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To: MitchellC; JaneNC; upchuck; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Impy; GOPsterinMA; randita; Sun; ...

It would be ironic if Obama were to lose North Carolina by a larger-than-national average after holding his convention there.


4 posted on 05/12/2012 4:47:00 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Obama and Company lied, the American economy died)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Obama is not going to win one southern state. Bank on it. North Carolina, Virginia and Florida are all going Romney.


5 posted on 05/12/2012 4:48:35 PM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX (My only objective is defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: Clintonfatigued
"The Obama campaign added a section on “clean coal” to its website this week after House Republicans alleged that the president’s “all-of-the-above” energy plan neglected the fossil fuel."

Alleged??? The Plan DID NOT include coal until after the ad. Hill, your bias is showing.

6 posted on 05/12/2012 4:52:46 PM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
Agreed! Throw in Ind. as well.

All of the traditional GOP States are going to return to the fold.

7 posted on 05/12/2012 4:53:39 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words!-Sam Adams)
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To: Clintonfatigued

As far as I am concerned, when it comes to colors, red equates with tyranny and always will.

Blue is for patriots and cannot be associated with the rat party.


8 posted on 05/12/2012 4:55:01 PM PDT by Jacquerie (No court will save us from ourselves.)
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To: Clintonfatigued; All

I pray to God that Obama’s celebration of sodomy this week costs him many, many states—I hope it energizes the conservatives, blacks, undecideds, and a lot of Democrats to SEE Obama in a new light.

I pray they see him as a dangerous person who wants our culture to be perverted and our economy to be decimated—for that is an accurate assessment of the Occupier of the Oval Office.


9 posted on 05/12/2012 4:57:02 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

Obama’s decision is backfiring. Obama is falling in the polls. Romney is polling 50% in Rasmussen Reports for the first time since they started polling him against Obama.


10 posted on 05/12/2012 4:59:17 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Obama and Company lied, the American economy died)
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To: Clintonfatigued

If the DNC cancels its convention in NC, the GOP should run a satellite convention there to take its place.


11 posted on 05/12/2012 5:04:07 PM PDT by icwhatudo (This is not a choice between Romney&Reagan-Its between Romney & most radical leftist Pres in history)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
Obama is not going to win one southern state. Bank on it. North Carolina, Virginia and Florida are all going Romney.

. I would say he has a good shot at getting shut out in the Rocky Mountain states as well. His hopes of Colorado, New Mexico, or Nevada are probably extremely remote. Obama is going to be New England, the West Coast, and Illinois. There wont be any map-expanding this time, IMO.

12 posted on 05/12/2012 5:06:11 PM PDT by MovementConservative (Go Mariners! 2013!)
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To: Clintonfatigued

The state did not reject an amendment legalizing gay marriage. Factual clarity please people.

The amendment defined marriage in the state constitution, so that judges could not rule that such a law was unconstitutional.

If the amendment had failed, gay marriage would not have been legalized. The status quo, of marriage defined in regular statute law, would have still been in effect.


13 posted on 05/12/2012 5:07:22 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego

It’s an important distinction you made. It’s time to start using the language as it is. This is NOT an argument against gay marriage. It needs to be an argument FOR traditional marriage and OPPOSED to anything else.

When you start talking about “gay marriage,” you’ve already lost the war of language—you’ve couched your argument in your opponents’ terms.

Make it a monolithic support of marriage as is and as it has always been. Throw them on the outside demanding massive change to a system that has served all of humanity across the globe through all of history well. Make them the outsiders and don’t start out on the defensive.


14 posted on 05/12/2012 5:20:46 PM PDT by CaspersGh0sts
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To: Clintonfatigued

How ironic that the RATS, fav buddies of the unions and their associated thugs, would have their national convention in a right to work state.


15 posted on 05/12/2012 5:25:40 PM PDT by upchuck (Need is not an acceptable lifestyle choice; dependent is not a career. ~ Dr. Tim Nerenz)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Californication.


16 posted on 05/12/2012 5:30:25 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: Jacquerie
red is the color for martyrs who shed their blood to cast off tyranny and to maintain liberty over the years.
17 posted on 05/12/2012 5:37:22 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Sorry to say this but the young have been indoctrinated to not care about someone being gay. When they start to vote...


18 posted on 05/12/2012 5:51:54 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: Clintonfatigued

It seems that The Hill cannot report the truth. The article says, “...the day after the state REJECTED an amendment legalizing gay marriage.” North Carolina voters PASSED an amendment defining “... marriage solely as a union between a man and a woman.”


19 posted on 05/12/2012 6:00:25 PM PDT by RightWingConspirator (Obamanation--the most corrupt regime since Robert Mugabe's Zimbabwe)
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To: elpadre; fieldmarshaldj; Clintonfatigued; Impy
>> red is the color for martyrs who shed their blood <<

Yes, that's what they're what commemorating...all their guys like Che Guevara are labeled "martys" when they die for the cause...

>> to cast off tyranny and to maintain liberty over the years. <<

WRONG. "Red" is the color for people who worked for the opposite goal.... to cast off liberty and install tyranny for years:


20 posted on 05/12/2012 6:18:10 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Illegals for Perry/Gingrich 2012 : Don't be "heartless"/ Be "humane")
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21 posted on 05/12/2012 6:23:37 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah c<meth. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: combat_boots

That little red x marks the bullet hole in Che’s forehead, right?


22 posted on 05/12/2012 6:50:46 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (=)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Obama was never going to win NC this time around and he damn well knew it before, during and after his evolution.


23 posted on 05/12/2012 6:56:04 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (.)
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To: StAnDeliver

Exactly! It’s xe spot.


24 posted on 05/12/2012 7:01:07 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah c<meth. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

I still can’t understand how it went for obama in 2008. Is there some sort of invasion of yankees, ala south Florida?


25 posted on 05/12/2012 7:16:46 PM PDT by Jake8898
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

What did I read today? They have 200,000 illegal aliens registered to vote in Florida? Add to that the zombie vote and the altzheimer patients, and those in nursing homes that the dems vote for and it will be hard for Romney to carry Florida even if all the pissed off and pissed on Conservatives suck it up and vote for him.


26 posted on 05/12/2012 7:21:02 PM PDT by duffee (NEWT 2012)
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To: Jacquerie

The networks and every one else used BLUE for Republicans and RED for the democrats, look up an old election night map for 1984 and 1980. Apparently there were too many comments about RED being the appropiate color for the democrats. They could have at least let the Republicans keep BLUE and changed the democrats to GREEN or PINK.


27 posted on 05/12/2012 7:27:03 PM PDT by duffee (NEWT 2012)
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To: Jake8898

Lots of illegals, record-breaaking black turnout, plus the unpopularity of GWB and Elizabeth Dole.


28 posted on 05/12/2012 7:51:31 PM PDT by GAgal
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To: Jacquerie

They used to alternate every election till 2004 when the press deliberately saddled GOP with red permanently

Propaganda


29 posted on 05/12/2012 11:07:29 PM PDT by wardaddy (I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
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To: wardaddy
They used to alternate every election till 2004 when the press deliberately saddled GOP with red permanently Propaganda

Exactly. Although I know they were doing that and commenting on it on election night 2000; I don't remember what the scheme was in 1996 (Clinton/Dole).

The color red was getting too close to the truth.

Plus, they probably focus-grouped some advantages for the Dims out of having "blue". They'd do that, to help their little 'Rat-faced Communist buddies.

30 posted on 05/13/2012 1:34:03 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Jacquerie

Exactly. The color red is associated with every radical-leftist totalitarian ideology on Earth. The Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, China, etc.


31 posted on 05/13/2012 5:04:32 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: elpadre

The billions of victims of “Red” ideologies. Red Russia, Red China...


32 posted on 05/13/2012 5:06:25 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: MovementConservative

In New England, he will lose New Hampshire, maybe Maine.


33 posted on 05/13/2012 5:17:38 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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Well,the Blacks will vote for Obama. All of them. And the white college profs and yankee techno transplants around the Research Triangle. And NC youngsters are no less influenced by the facile liberalism of the popular culture—late nite TV, the sitcoms, music,the movies—than are young people elsewhere. So, while Obama has damaged the economy, declared war on religious liberty and endorsed the degradation of the culture that is same sex “marriage,” there is still a residue of support for him. And Obama’s allies in the media have just begun their fight (WP article on Romney in high school)to destroy Obama’s opponent. Let us not be too confident. Evil is attractive to many.
34 posted on 05/13/2012 6:14:27 AM PDT by Godwin1
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To: Jake8898; fieldmarshaldj; Impy; GOPsterinMA; MitchellC; JaneNC; upchuck; AuH2ORepublican; ...
>> I still can’t understand how [North Carolina] went for obama in 2008. <<


2008 Presidential General Election Results - North Carolina
Barack Obama/Joe Biden Democrat 2,142,651
John McCain/Sarah Palin Republican 2,128,474
Bob Barr/Wayne A. Root Libertarian 25,722

35 posted on 05/13/2012 5:09:12 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Illegals for Perry/Gingrich 2012 : Don't be "heartless"/ Be "humane")
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The last POTUS election NC was less Republican than the country at large was 1980.


36 posted on 05/13/2012 5:20:50 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; Clintonfatigued; AuH2ORepublican

It would be easy to give in and start using red and blue as (backward) adjectives but I’m not gonna do it.


37 posted on 05/13/2012 5:26:01 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Impy
Yep, whenever anyone has a political conversation with me and uses the MSM designated colors, I won't play ball with them whether they're conservative or liberal.

The other day, I talked with a former college professor via email and she said something along the lines of "someday you'll come around to a blue state mentality" and I answered "I already am, I'm a true blue conservative, which is the color used to identify conservatives in every country but the U.S.".

One the flip side, a person on the right side of the spectrum posted some banner he created for the 2012 election with red elephant and the caption "RED REVOLUTION 2012", and I told him "I don't like it. We already had a "red" revolution in 2008 when the Democrats took over and put Obama's communist health care plan in place. I want to undo "red" policies"

Too many conservatives let the mainstream media control the language of political discourse. At this state, conservatives will start referring to themselves as "anti-woman's choice" and refer to illegal aliens as "undocumented guest workers". I've noticed lately that conservatives increasingly refer to liberals as their preferred term for themselves, "progressives". I'm not sure if this is to purposely tarnish the term, or because they've bought the MSM-approved terminology again. It certainly can't be because liberals are for progress.

38 posted on 05/13/2012 6:35:08 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Illegals for Perry/Gingrich 2012 : Don't be "heartless"/ Be "humane")
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To: Jake8898

High Black turnout was the #1 factor.


39 posted on 05/13/2012 8:28:11 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; Clintonfatigued; AuH2ORepublican; Impy
There are so many useless idiots on our side using the media assigned colors (passing out bracelets that say "think Red" in Illinois and silly stunts like that), that conservatives have a duty to avoid the GOP = RED propaganda by using images with the CORRECT colors whenever possible in public:






40 posted on 05/13/2012 10:37:55 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Illegals for Perry/Gingrich 2012 : Don't be "heartless"/ Be "humane")
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