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Evangelicals: Mitt Romney hit right note
Politico ^ | 5/12/2012 | Ginger Gibson

Posted on 05/12/2012 3:38:57 PM PDT by svxdave

LYNCHBURG, Va. — Evangelical leaders praised Mitt Romney’s speech today at Liberty University, saying that the Mormon candidate was right to acknowledge his religious differences with other Christian voters.

“It was an acknowledgment that the issues that social conservatives and evangelicals care about are important issues to Gov. Romney and as he sees them [as] part of a successful economic platform for the country,” said Family Research Council President Tony Perkins.

Perkins added that there wasn’t anything the presumptive GOP presidential nominee — who many evangelical voters regarded with skepticism during the primary while backing Rick Santorum — should have done differently. And he pointed to the huge opportunity created for Romney by President Barack Obama’s endorsement of same-sex marriage this week (Romney opposes gay marriage).

“I think he touched on the key issues that are important to social conservatives. He mentioned Rick Santorum and Rick’s emphasis and the need to have the family and the ties to economic success.” (See also: 10 essential facts about Liberty U.)

Regarding Romney’s acknowledgement that Mormonism differs from other Christian faiths in certain ways, Perkins said the candidate was correct to tackle the issue.

“That was what he needed to do, was to acknowledge that there are theological differences between him and evangelicals,” Perkins said.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0512/76233.html#ixzz1uhJgxVy5

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To: rogue yam
They changed their faith. It happens.

The RESTORED gospel?

The FULLNESS of the gospel?

Are you saying that MORMONs have ABANDONED their first love?

201 posted on 05/12/2012 9:32:32 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie

Office of First President & Living Prophet

November 1st, 2011

The message for this month is -

...to stay on our mantra: We ARE Christians!!

We've been taking a beating on the Internet - especially from those hateful ANTIs on FreeRepublic!
 
We MUST keep the media constantly informed of those things the world considers christian.

We must NOT allow our MORMONness to show thru, as it has gotten a really bad rap thru history - lord only knows why...
 
 
Tommy

202 posted on 05/12/2012 9:34:10 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie
From the Desk of TM:

Attention FreeRepublic Anti-ANTI Team:


An error occured in the last memo, as it was supposed to read:

...call them nasties...

not...

...call them NAZIs...

Hopefully no problems occured this weekend because of a Headquarter's foul up.

Keep up the good work on FR. We've been getting HUNDREDS of hitS on our websites by those evidently seeking the truth.


Watch next month's ENSIGN for the new membership figures; due, no doubt, to the tireless work by you faithful typists!

Sincerely (continue using THAT word),

Thomas Monson,
Business Executive


203 posted on 05/12/2012 9:36:11 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: EternalVigilance
Someone should ask these evangelical "leaders" how much of the money of Romney and his friends they have in their pockets.

Everyone who makes different political judgements than you do is on the take, huh?

204 posted on 05/12/2012 9:36:48 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: ansel12
Do you really think that at age 59, Romney...suddenly had a stroke in 2006, and became totally different, a reversed mirror image of his 59 year old self, just as he was announcing that he was running for president?

I don't really know what Romney's core political ideology is, or whether he even has one.

However, Romney is running as a conservative now and if he gets elected President, and if the GOP controls both houses of Congress, then I think we will get more conservative policies and appointments than we would get from Obama.

205 posted on 05/12/2012 9:46:16 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Elsie; rogue yam
So; you are NOT prepared to have Ron Paul as President? Why; I might ask?

Because he's a loon?

206 posted on 05/12/2012 9:47:47 PM PDT by okie01
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To: ansel12
That is your argument, not that he doesn’t do, but that it isn’t literally the next day?

Yeah. That. Neither literally nor approximately.

207 posted on 05/12/2012 9:51:27 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: rogue yam

So you were playing dumb in that post, you really don’t want to know that he is a lifelong liberal, and that he is faking this new thing. You really are not an honest poster.

If you read post 180 you will learn “”what Romney’s core political ideology is, or whether he even has one.””

Quit lying to us and to yourself, and start reading the information people give in answer to your dishonest, pretend ignorance.

Did you read the transcript in 165, showing you that indeed, Bishop Romney was explaining that Mormonism is not pro-life?


208 posted on 05/12/2012 9:57:45 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Not voting Romney?? Then double up on down ticket races and your participation this election.)
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To: rogue yam

Man, you are a piece of work, are you a Mormon devotee to the man, or just a totally captivated non-Mormon devotee?


209 posted on 05/12/2012 10:00:19 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Not voting Romney?? Then double up on down ticket races and your participation this election.)
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To: Elsie
So; you are NOT prepared to have Ron Paul as President?

Why; I might ask?

I have strongly mixed feelings about Ron Paul. Some aspects of his character and platform I like very much, some I dislike very much.

But that is beside the point. Ron Paul is not important because he cannot defeat Romney and win the nomination. That has already been settled and no amount of Pauliac delegate treachery will change this result.

210 posted on 05/12/2012 10:02:32 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: ansel12
Man, you are a piece of work, are you a Mormon devotee to the man, or just a totally captivated non-Mormon devotee?

Neither.

211 posted on 05/12/2012 10:05:16 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: rogue yam

You claim to not know anything about all that we have been posting for 6 years about your man Mitt, and you post nonsense like this (not to me)as you deny that Mitt has problems, and lie for the man.

“I don’t think you’re being honest here.
Nobody on this site is denying that Mitt has problems.
Some of us want him to beat Obama anyway.
I think you know this and are lying about it.
My question to you is, why? Why lie?
How exactly does lying about other conservatives here on FR help America?”


212 posted on 05/12/2012 10:20:00 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Not voting Romney?? Then double up on down ticket races and your participation this election.)
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To: Norm Lenhart
Mormons claim to be Christians and part of the Judeo-Christian tradition. In any event, I don't think it matters whether Romney is a Mormon or not in terms of being qualified to be President. He seems to be a decent, principled person who has a loving and good family and who has led a good life.

They are free to believe as they will and I’m 100% fine with that.

I am glad you support the First Amendment of the Constitution and are charitable enough not to prohibit Mormons the free exercise of their religion. But you know something, it is not up to you to decide whether it is fine or not. Mormons have the inalienable right to worship as they please. And so does everyone else in this country.

213 posted on 05/12/2012 10:41:53 PM PDT by kabar
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To: P-Marlowe
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (the LDS Church or, colloquially, the Mormon Church) is the largest denomination in the Latter Day Saint movement, a Christian primitivist movement that was started by Joseph Smith during what is called the Second Great Awakening. The church is headquartered in Salt Lake City, Utah, and has established congregations (called wards or branches) and built temples worldwide. With over 55,000 missionaries worldwide, the church currently claims a growing membership of over 14.4 million and is ranked by the National Council of Churches as the fourth largest Christian denomination in the United States. The church's predominant theology is Mormonism.
214 posted on 05/12/2012 10:47:14 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

A cult can claim what it wants to, but Christianity from Catholics to Baptists, from Orthodox to Methodists, and so on, all agree that Mormonism is not a Christian religion.

Romney is a very high, very powerful Mormon leader, that will rise even higher after this presidential effort, which by the way, is coordinated with a multi-million dollar publicity and recruiting effort from the Bishops religion, the presidential effort itself was approved by their Holy Prophet, this is historical stuff, and it is natural that this is important to Christians and literally all Americans.


215 posted on 05/12/2012 10:51:20 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Not voting Romney?? Then double up on down ticket races and your participation this election.)
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To: Elsie

So what should be done with the Mormons? Do you believe that they represent a danger to this country?


216 posted on 05/12/2012 10:51:20 PM PDT by kabar
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To: ansel12

So don’t vote for him if you believe he is part of a Mormon conspiracy to take over the country. Personaly, I am not threatened by Mormons. I have worked and associated with them in the military and in the Foreign Service. They are decent, family oriented people who try to live by the Golden Rule. In sum, they are a force for good in this world.


217 posted on 05/12/2012 10:56:23 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

Why do you make the false claim that Romney is “a decent, principled person” “who has led a good life”?

You don’t know anything about his life, and all the evil he has promoted and sold to the public, through speeches, fund raising, campaigns, donations, and passionate public pleas?

The man has lived an aggressive life of recruiting and selling for evil.

Romney keeps a calm personal life for himself and his own, but he works for the other side and has served as a leader and campaigner for the dark forces.


218 posted on 05/12/2012 11:00:48 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Not voting Romney?? Then double up on down ticket races and your participation this election.)
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To: kabar
is ranked by the National Council of Churches as the fourth largest Christian denomination in the United States.

Muslims believe that Jesus was a Prophet. Therefore, the author of that tripe might just as well have said that Islam is the largest Christian denomination in the world.

Neither Islam nor Mormonism are Christian. They are both non-Christian religions. Just because they both claim to "believe" in Jesus in some perverted sense does not make them Christian.

219 posted on 05/12/2012 11:03:12 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Virgil Goode! Because everyone else is Bad!)
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To: kabar

I’m not threatened by Mormons either, not family or friends.

You shouldn’t be threatened by Christians or conservatives, and try to sell them the lie that Mormonism is a Christian religion, or that this bizarre historical situation should be off the table for their discussion, because the Bishop/Presidential candidate is Mormon.


220 posted on 05/12/2012 11:09:15 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Not voting Romney?? Then double up on down ticket races and your participation this election.)
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To: ansel12
Do you know of any personal scandal involving Romney, his wife or his children? They seem to have raised 5 good young men and have a very solid family life with their children and 18 grandchildren.

Romney spent three years as a missionary. He was number one in his class at BYU. He was in the top third of his class at Havard Law School and in the top 5% in the Harvard business school. He has achieved remarkable success in business.

Compare Romney to the current occupant of the WH who was probably born out of wedlock, spent the last two years of High School in a self-admitted daze from drinking too much beer and snorting coke. What little we know of his time at Occidental, Columbia, and Harvard, he doesn't appear to be any great intellect. He keeps his records sealed. We can't even see his grades. Yet, the WP has investigated Romney's alleged high school pranks. Look what the MSM did to Palin. We know far more about Romney than we do about Obama.

Obama's association with domestic terrorists like Ayers and Dohrn, ACORN, community organizers (shakedown artists), and 20 years in the hate filled church of Rev Wright who married him and baptized his children shold give anyone pause. And he was mentored by Frank Marshall Davis, a noted racist and communist.

Whom do you view as being more dangerous to this Republic, Obama or Romney? And why?

221 posted on 05/12/2012 11:15:54 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Elsie

I need to know where and why exactly the Mayflower Compact and It’s declarers come into play/define what the Founding Fathers of our Constitution adopted. I would suspect that from the time of the Mayflower Compact to the Constitution there were various opinions as to the theological basis of the new Nation with a supreme God of their fathers being foremost. I do believe that the Founders did not intend to base the new Nation on a supreme Allah or supreme Buddha or any other supreme whatever as some people might like to make the case.


222 posted on 05/12/2012 11:20:18 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: P-Marlowe
The National Council of Churches disagrees with you. They consider the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to be part of the Christian religion.

The LDS Church considers itself to be a restoration of the church founded by Jesus Christ, which was later lost in the centuries after Christ in a Great Apostasy. Adherents, referred to as Latter-day Saints or, more informally, Mormons, view faith in Jesus Christ and the atonement as the central tenet of their religion. LDS theology includes the Christian doctrine of salvation only through Jesus Christ, though LDS doctrines regarding the nature of God and the potential of mankind differ significantly from mainstream Christianity.

Jews also consider Jesus to be a prophet. But neither Muslims or Jews claim to be Christians. Mormons do. So what's the big whoop?

223 posted on 05/12/2012 11:22:12 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

So you pretend not to know the truth? You label this work ‘good’?

You don’t know anything about his life, and all the evil he has promoted and sold to the public, through speeches, fund raising, campaigns, donations, and passionate public pleas?

The man has lived an aggressive life of recruiting and selling for evil.

Romney keeps a calm personal life for himself and his own, but he works for the other side and has served as a leader and campaigner for the dark forces.


224 posted on 05/12/2012 11:25:22 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Not voting Romney?? Then double up on down ticket races and your participation this election.)
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To: ansel12

Mormons can believe whatever they want. It doesn’t affect me or you what they believe. So what if they claim to be Christians?


225 posted on 05/12/2012 11:25:32 PM PDT by kabar
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To: ansel12

See my post #221. Your are repeating yourself.


226 posted on 05/12/2012 11:27:21 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

You are ignoring the point, your argument is that the evil man lives a calm, clean personal life, it matters not that he is a prince of evil, building a legacy of death and decadence and publicly working to degrade the lives of others, and our culture, and our nation.


227 posted on 05/12/2012 11:33:13 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Not voting Romney?? Then double up on down ticket races and your participation this election.)
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To: kabar
Mormons can believe whatever they want. It doesn’t affect me or you what they believe. So what if they claim to be Christians?

Hey, you are the one who is taking on all Christian comers, your leaping into a discussion and taking on the thread while claiming that the subject doesn't matter to you, isn't convincing.

If Christians are interested in revealing false religion, then let them, "it doesn't affect [you] or what [you] believe", let them discuss away.

228 posted on 05/12/2012 11:40:07 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Not voting Romney?? Then double up on down ticket races and your participation this election.)
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To: svxdave

Thanks for posting this. There is a great deal that I don’t know about Mormons.


229 posted on 05/13/2012 12:06:12 AM PDT by matthew fuller (Mitt Romney is the supreme exemplification of the word SMARMY.)
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To: rogue yam

Actually, no. Nonetheless, Romney has been pouring money into the Republican satellite “conservative” organizations since before the last presidential election. Including Perkins’ organizations. That’s what he does. He’s a leveraged buyout guy. That’s how he made his fortune.


230 posted on 05/13/2012 2:12:59 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (We're not Republicans or Democrats. We're Americans. Visit SelfGovernment.US.)
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To: rogue yam

You are simply pathetic.


231 posted on 05/13/2012 3:14:30 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: kabar

Romney is MORE dangerous than Obama.

Obama is finally transparent, yet the LIAR ROmney
has just (again) begun to lie and scheme and
pose and lie and lie and lie and lie.


232 posted on 05/13/2012 3:47:44 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: rogue yam

http://massresistance.org/romney/#buyoff

It’s their modus operandi.


233 posted on 05/13/2012 4:01:55 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (We're not Republicans or Democrats. We're Americans. Visit SelfGovernment.US.)
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To: rogue yam
Everyone who makes different political judgements than you do is on the take, huh?

Everyone who makes different spiritual judgements than you do, secretly wants OBAMA to win, huh?

234 posted on 05/13/2012 4:18:05 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: rogue yam
However, Romney is running as a conservative now and if he gets elected President, and if the GOP controls both houses of Congress, then I think we will get more conservative policies and appointments than we would get from Obama.

Well of COURSE!

I think that NO one in this thread would DISagree with that!

But WHEN the USA is in yet ANOTHER tight spot (sorry for you folks who are upset with Clooney) and some SERIOUS soul searching needs to be done, and Mitt prays to GOD to help us; just WHO is going to be listening?



235 posted on 05/13/2012 4:23:06 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: rogue yam
Howev... NO one in this thread would DISagree with that!

But; this country does NOT have a political problem!!

It's ills are NOT political; but SPIRITUAL.

AMERICA needs to REPENT!



Why do so FEW folks seem to understand what 2 Chronicles 7:14 says???

236 posted on 05/13/2012 4:26:09 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: okie01
Because he's a loon?

And just which of his LOONIE policies upsets you the most?

237 posted on 05/13/2012 4:27:25 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: rogue yam
I have strongly mixed feelings about Ron Paul. Some aspects of his character and platform I like very much, some I dislike very much.

Oh?

Which ones?

238 posted on 05/13/2012 4:28:39 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: rogue yam
Ron Paul is not important because he cannot defeat Romney and win the nomination.

Oh?

Not important; eh?

True that MITT's handlers failed to completely demonize him early on; but many a horse, that has led the race, somehow stumbles in the stretch and horse that was lagging, wins.

I hope there are not too many folks who have placed their money on the wrong colored jockey outfit.

239 posted on 05/13/2012 4:34:21 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: rogue yam; ansel12
 
 
Who said this?
 

Statement of Faith

“I have accepted Jesus Christ as my personal Savior, and I endeavor every day to follow Him in all I do and in every position I advocate.”


My faith is a deeply private issue to me, and I don’t speak on it in great detail during my speeches because I want to avoid any appearance of exploiting it for political gain. Let me be very clear here: I have accepted Jesus Christ as my personal Savior, and I endeavor every day to follow Him in all I do and in every position I advocate.

It is God Who gave us life. As He is free, so are those He created in His image. Our rights to life and liberty are inalienable.

I’m running for President of the United States because I believe that our traditions and way of life are under attack from an out-of-control federal government and reckless politicians who show no regard for what our Founders entrusted to our protection.

America became the greatest nation in human history because a dedicated band of Patriots believed their God-given rights were worth fighting for, even if it meant challenging the world’s most powerful nation in what many deemed a “hopeless” cause.

 

240 posted on 05/13/2012 4:43:57 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: kabar
Mormons have the inalienable right to worship as they please.

What boogieman tells you they don't?


The Declaration of Independence lists life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness as unalienable rights.

241 posted on 05/13/2012 4:46:53 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: kabar
... is ranked by the National Council of Churches as the fourth largest Christian denomination in the United States.

Quite a BOLD statement.

One should consider the source.

MORMONism is neither a 'denomination' nor 'christian'.

242 posted on 05/13/2012 4:49:01 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: kabar
So what should be done with the Mormons? Do you believe that they represent a danger to this country?

Nope; but they DO present a danger to the eternal souls of men.

Worshipping a FALSE christ will earn a person a FALSE salvation.

MORMONs can shout and wail all day long that they believe in 'christ of the bible', but the albatross of LDS writings and teachings illustrates quite a DIFFERENT 'christ', and there is NO amount of present day proselytizing going to make those facts disappear.

243 posted on 05/13/2012 4:52:59 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: kabar
In sum, they are a force for good in this world.

See?

Even YOU agree!

244 posted on 05/13/2012 4:54:12 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: kabar
He was number one in his class at BYU.

Speaking of BYU...


 
 
Professor Robert Millet        teaching at the Mission Prep Club in 2004  http://newsnet.byu.edu/video/18773/  <-- Complete and uneditted

 
 
Timeline...    Subject...
 
0:59           "Anti-Mormons..."
1:16           "ATTACK the faith you have..."
2:02           "We really aren't obligated to answer everyone's questions..."
3:57           "You already know MORE about God and Christ and the plan of salvation than any who would ATTACK you."


245 posted on 05/13/2012 4:56:18 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: noinfringers2
I need to know where and why exactly the Mayflower Compact and It’s declarers come into play/define what the Founding Fathers of our Constitution adopted.

If you 'need to know'; then the amount of time involved in bringing you up to speed is a lot more than I am willing to spend.

I'll just chalk you up as a vote for Romney.

246 posted on 05/13/2012 4:58:03 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: RetiredArmy

Good Morning Sir.

That is a powerful testimony, thanks for sharing it. I would suggest that while you view your journey as including a period of ‘slipping away’, God never took His Hands off of you, you are His sovereign property. I fail Him all the time, but He never fails me. None of us by our own efforts are able to meet His standards. But I (and I’m sure you do too) try to live by a very simple rule, which is:

“Every day, do our best, and trust Jesus for the rest”.

Hope your Sunday is likewise, a fine one.


247 posted on 05/13/2012 5:03:05 AM PDT by mkjessup (Romney is to conservatism what Helen Thomas is to a high fashion model walkway.)
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To: noinfringers2
I do believe that the Founders did not intend to base the new Nation on a supreme Allah or supreme Buddha or any other supreme whatever as some people might like to make the case.

Then your 'belief' and history seem to be at loggerheads.


You may have read these words before...

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.


248 posted on 05/13/2012 5:03:39 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: kabar
The National Council of Churches disagrees with you.

DUH!

249 posted on 05/13/2012 5:04:25 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie
Who said this?

Statement of Faith

“I have accepted Jesus Christ as my personal Savior, and I endeavor every day to follow Him in all I do and in every position I advocate.”



RON PAUL! RON PAUL! RON PAUL! RON PAUL!


What do I win Elsie?!? Do I get a shot at that brand new car?!?

Or how about the big 56 inch plasma panel TV?!? I'd settle for that!!

Don't tell me I only win a Ron Paul coffee cup. :(
250 posted on 05/13/2012 5:10:22 AM PDT by mkjessup (Romney is to conservatism what Helen Thomas is to a high fashion model walkway.)
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