Posted on 05/10/2012 6:38:57 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
Former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney (R) said Thursday that he believes gay couples should be allowed to adopt children, even as he reiterated his view that marriage is defined as a relationship between a man and a woman.
In an interview with Neil Cavuto of Fox Business Network, Romney was asked whether he believes the gay marriage debate is a new civil rights movement, as some Democrats have framed the issue.
“I don’t see it in that light,” Romney responded. “I believe my record as a person who has supported civil rights is strong and powerful. At the same time, I believe that marriage has been defined the same way for literally thousands of years by virtually every civilization in history and that marriage is by its definition a relationship between a man and woman.”
He added that “if two people of the same gender want to live together, want to have a loving relationship, even want to adopt a child — in my state, individuals of the same sex are able to adopt children. In my view, that’s something which people have the right to do, but to call that marriage is, in my view, a departure from the real meaning of the word.”
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You are not alone my friend.
I guess I was being sardonic and facetious, hoping for a Russian style plane crash or Asian style bird flu.
Last time I checked, none of this was in the job description for the Commander in Chief of the United States Armed Forces. Let’s see.... Article 2... hmmm.. no governance of laws of measurements or legal definitions there... CIC, treaties, SOCTUS, yea.. gay stuff.. nope..
LOL!
Then you realize the agenda of the state is not to let kids in the foster care system be adopted. A very few are allowed. Most kids though are stuck in a system where Mommy Rules and has years to get her act together. In the mean time the kids stay in homes in strangers in many cases.
Families used to take on this responsibility BUT it has become quite dangerous to do so in these times. For example grandparents taking in kids to their homes lets say their grandkids in most states must also qualify as foster parents. But the birth mother still calls all the shots. I know many what they call kinship foster parents who have had their lives threatened, their home threatened, legally harassed, stalked, the kids threatened by the birth parents and the Childrens Services sits on their tails.
The answer isn't allowing gay couples to adopt. The system is dysfunctional enough with out that factor nor do kids going through the trauma of being placed in state custody need the added stress of gay parents.
Romney and Obama are pushing the same perverted agenda. I've saw quite a few younger straight couples in classes wanting to adopt. The instructors basically say forget it that is not the agenda. If states will return kids back too abusive parents it stands to reason they have no qualms about turning them over to those of alternative lifestyles either. No foster kid needs gay foster parents.
“The wait for newborns in the adoption is 6-10 years, depending on the state. The cost is around $20K. The demand side of the equation isn’t the problem.”
Cannot comment on the availability of new borns but various states have Baptist Children’s Homes. Fees are based on income, the less of it you have, the less you pay. Here’s the one in your state:
No where near $20K and they do not adopt children to known homosexuals. They can do this while some Catholic agencies have had to fold because they do not and never have, accepted any government funding, therefore the government cannot threaten them with fund cut off.
You need not be Baptist to adopt from them either.
Well, Obamacare is "off the table" too, since romney is the original author of it.
..and while you are waiting for the State, babies are dying.. piss off. that so called textbook definition doesn’t matter, life does. A big brother tomorrow could say that marriage is between a man and his computer.. that doesn’t save one life.. while you are clickety clacking away on a computer, what are y0ou doing to save one life? I am secure in where I am, are you?
When I first read the title of this thread I thought that this was just another decades-old quote from Romney past as a liberal New England governor dredged up by the media. I didn't intended to click on it since I have been doing my best these last few weeks to ignore these articles so that I will be able to hold my nose in November and vote for Anyone-But-Obama.
Now that I can see that this is a current quote from today, however, I'm done. I have changed my mind. Mitt Romney will do far more damage as a liberal Republican president to the country in the long-term than Barack Obama will do as a liberal Democrat president. I hope that with a Democrat president we will have a better chance of maintaining control of the house. My remaining efforts in this election cycle will be at the local, state, and congressional level. I won't vote against Romney, but I can not longer vote for him.
You just blew it Mittens. I'm from California. I don't have to vote for Romney to get rid of Zero.
“Spare us the Pelosi style pontificating. Jesus talked about hell and He never meant for his teachings to be twisted into a justification for an anything goes attitude.”
Wait I think I remember something Jesus said; oh yes, something like: Judge not lest you be judged.
It started with Clinton for me. When he came on, I'd quickly change the channel. Then Obama came along and it was the same thing, I just could not bear to watch or listen to either one of them, it made me nauseous.
Now Romney is affecting me the same way. He makes me want to puke.
My wife and I have been legal guardians for two children, now ages 12 and 13 for the past 4 years.
Our final adoption hearing to adopt them is at 1:00 P.M. tomorrow, in the Tazewell County court house in Pekin, Illinois. I expect all to go well and I'll be writing a vanity post (with pictures) tomorrow night.
Wanna be pinged to it? They are a wonderful 13 year old girl and her 12 year old brother.
From a fellow adopter, congrats two times over and thank you both for going through that long process to make such a huge difference in these kids lives. You have honored God and he has blessed you.
Romney, the Etch-a-Sketch candidate, thinks mentally unbalanced homo “couples” should be allowed to adopt children.
What a scumbag.
don’t want to debate theology, just wondering where all the hatred comes from.
By the way, I’m not a big supporter of gay rights or gay adoption, I’m just concerned about all those kids out there going to waste.
Told ya lib Romney would be doing this.
Well if gays are going to adopt then that kills the argument against same sex marriage.
As Obama says: Malia and Sasha come home from school and want to know why their friend’s two daddies, or their two mommies, don’t have the ‘right to marry’ like the Obama’s did.
But Romney thinks its great for kids to have two mommies or two daddies.
This is how progressives make progress.
There is already a very high demand for adoptable children. Allowing gays to adopt would just make it more difficult for normal couples to adopt.
In any case you would expose children who have already come from traumatic situations into world of mental illness. With families consisting of a man who pretends to be a woman or a woman who pretends to be a man, these children will have no hope of ever being raised normally.
Then you have the predatory gays who adopt babies to pass around to their friends and molest them. There is nothing about this situation that is beneficial to children. Why would anyone want to subject a child to this.
We have thrown tens of thousands of dollars at it, so piss off. I’ve seen gay couples adopt and at least they are saving lives.
40 plus years ago, my wife and I became foster parents in the bluest of blue states (Illinois). Tomorrow at 1:00 P.M. at the Tazewell County Court House, in Pekin, Illinois, we are having our final adoption hearing for 2 of them. We've been their legal guardians for the past 4 years, brother and sister, ages now, are 12 and 13.
I expect all to go well and I'll be posting a vanity with pictures tomorrow night.
Our income is similar to your stated income.
We have 4 adult children, 14 grand children and 4 great grand children. Add 2 more after tomorrow.
“we’re so screwed in this election”
Sums it up well.
“The libtards are trying to kill off Mitt’s chances at rallying a conservative base.”
Yes, the media is in full Obama protection mode and will be boosting Obama and throwing a blizzard of cr*p about Romney out there to make people like him less.
Romney-hating freepers will repost this and feed the left’s narratives and aid their Obama re-election goals.
Pointless. Dumb. And helping Obama.
No matter what, I cannot vote for either Romney or Obama.
I don't have to stand before the GOP leadership when I die. I will have to answer to a higher authority.
I don’t agree. Do you remember the Duke University gay, part of a so called “loving gay couple” who adopted a baby boy, then got on line and offered the one year old around the internet to gay men to molest. This continued for years until a cop working undercover found out and had him arrested.
People who identify themselves by sexually degenerate practices have mental problems. I don’t believe children should be placed into the homes of the mentally defective.
Those are not the choices. Women do not abort because there are not enough adopters.
Liberal on evolution, liberal on homosexuality.
People claim to be liberal in one confined area. “Oh, I just believe this one thing about evolution, but otherwise I’m a hardcore conservative”, they say. Bull. Wet in one area, wet in others.
Speaking from our own experience, our daughter had a male friend from high school who was raised by two lesbians. He became a basket case, and we lost touch with him several years ago. But it wouldn’t surprise me at all to learn that he comitted suicide. I mean, this kid was really messed up.
“Do you remember the Duke University gay, part of a so called “loving gay couple” who adopted a baby boy, then got on line and offered the one year old around the internet to gay men to molest”
But you are cherry picking the evidence. I could throw out hundreds of cases of heterosexual people doing the same or worse. I’m not a proponent of gay adoption, but I feel all guilt or blame can’t be placed just upon gay people because they are gay. The effects of divorce have had a far more detrimental effect upon family life than gay adoption.
The media will have opportunities galore because Mitt will make sure they have plenty. This is the real Mitt Romney. Back in 2002, he called a marriage amendment too extreme because it outlawed civil unions as well as defining marriage as a man and woman only. Mitt Romney has believed that gays should be allowed in the military for years. Although he “says” he is for the protection of traditional marriage, he is the governor who is responsible for gay marriage in the state of Massachusetts.
As long as the campaign continues on social issues, the republicans will find themselves in an unfamiliar position — taking the low road because Romney will be found wanting.
There are many children who are aging out while languishing in foster care that very few heteros are adopting because of the emotional scars and special needs that come with adopting these children. Thankfully, there are decent homosexual couples stepping up to the plate left empty by the heteros. Is it the best thing for them? No. Every child deserves a mommy AND a daddy. But with so few (heteros) making themselves available, the next best thing is a homosexual couple or a single mother or father. Before condemming our gay brothers and sisters (they’re children of God, too, remember?) for getting “in the same line” to adopt children, perhaps we should be asking why so many straight couples are not getting in line in the first place? BTW, I’m a mother of 4 special needs children that I adopted through foster care and have been married to my dear husband for over 20 years. I’ve been a foster parent for 15. Pretty much have seen it all. The gay couples I have worked with are very nice people who love thier adopted children and have given them a stable home. Optimal? No. Stable and loving? Yes.
Very well said, and my congratulations to you both for having the will and the faith to do what you have done.
Straight couples use thier children horribly, too. I prefer not to paint everybody with the same broad brush. There are bad people everywhere, gay or straight.
“I do not favor marriage between people of the same gender, and I do not favor civil unions if they are identical to marriage other than by name”
-Romney
Let’s just say he’s not credible on that. He admits he wants homosexuals to have “domestic partnership benefits, hospital visitation rights and the like.” He also thinks homosexual couples should be able to adopt children and clearly supports civil unions so long as they aren’t “identical” to marriage.
Civil unions, domestic partner benefits (taxes, insurance, etc), hospital visitation rights, adoption, and the like. So how is this not marriage in all but name?????
Children placed into sexual slavery.
He just calls it “domestic partnerships”.
What’s wrong with you?
Are you “gay” or just a liberal?
He says he doesn’t favor civil unions that are marriage in all but name, but then he goes on about how homosexuals should be able to have civil unions with domestic partner benefits, hospital visitation rights, adoption rights, etc. I guess I’d really like to know the difference between that and marriage, because he sure seems to be cutting a very fine line.
The bottom line on gay marriage is that the left sees it as a civil rights issue. Once you make that logical leap, then government not only should, it must act to squash out opposition. When it came down to private property and religious rights versus civil rights, the latter won.
If this was simply about homosexuals making long term commitments, it wouldn’t be that big of a deal. But it’s not about that. It’s about religious and private property rights and the right of association that will be sacrificed so that homosexuals can live free of ever hearing a dissenting opinion.
Homosexuals molest children magnitudes more than non-faggots.
All homosexuals are mentally ill sex perverts.
Why are you supporting the rights of mentally ill sex perverts to ruin childrens’ lives?
what an jackass of a nominee
incredible
and just look at all talking for him
all the bad players from Bush’s team
Rove...Gillespie..all we need now is that cakeboy Mehlman
rscully and wee willie winkie seem to be tag teaming each other pushing the homo agenda; specifically how homosexuals are such great parents and Romney is so right to want homosexuals to adopt little children.
By the way, I’m not a big supporter of gay rights or gay adoption, I’m just concerned about all those kids out there going to waste.
Liar.
What’s wrong with you?
Are you “gay” or just a liberal?
Its just hard for me to understand where all this hatred comes from. It seems to be a very good motivator, maybe I need some of it. Its just hard for me to relate to such feelings. I guess I could understand if my wife or children were murdered or if they had been raped, or maybe if someone burned my house down, or maybe if... oh that’s right, we were talking about adopting children.
“Liar.”
Well thanks for the intelligent and insightful analysis of my thoughts. I can see you are a very deep and tolerant person.
Hatred? No. Anger? Yes. Stop projecting...
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