Romney’s denials about homophobic assault are despicable

NY ALTNEWS ^ | 05/10/2012 | Cliff Weathers

[RedMonqey]

The “kid” would have been Army enlistment age.

As would the alleged "victim"

If Romney and his cohorts wanted to put the hurt on Lauber, there are countless things they could have done to him worse than a "buzz" cut.

Personally I've been ganged up by a couple of sixth grade school yard thugs(I was a pudgy fifth grader) and they gave me alot worse. And at least one of them got an Converse sneeker to the family jewels allowing me time to get away.

This is nothing more than a prank blown out of proportion to distract the voters away from obama's failures.

[Lazamataz]

At his age I was an anti-bully force

So, you are a bully.

[ansel12]

Weird that you would think that a person who stands up to the bad guys, and the attackers, are bullies.

When I witness a bar fight, and I see a man pull out a knife, and I jump in to disarm him and stop the fight, am I bullying the knife man, when I see a man hit his wife and I intervene, you think that I am bullying him, stopping Romney and his posse from assaulting this guy, would be bullying them? When I jump on a guy and disarm him as he is going into his kids room to murder him and his mother in a murder/suicide event, that is bullying him?

Protecting victims, is not being a bully, it is protecting people.

[Lazamataz]

What a bully you are. You should apologize. And stop pushing people around, you damned bully.

[ansel12]

Forming a posse to hold down a person and cut their hair, is not a prank, it is a full blown assault.

I can imagine what fathers here would think if their son came home from school having been attacked in this manner.

I think the violence of the act would enrage them.

[N. Theknow]

Romney’s denials about homophobic assault are despicable

Headline should have read: I'm Barack Obama, and I approve this message.

The only thing despicable about this story is the WaPo sitting on this story, as it was given them some time ago, until Idi Obama could come out of the closet and they could attempt to smear Romney with it as a homo-bashing bully.

[RedMonqey]

Forming a posse to hold down a person and cut their hair, is not a prank, it is a full blown assault.

So in that same vein would you also classify "Indian burns", "purple urples", "red bellys" and "wet willies" to name a few, as "assaults"?

If so, then most of my elementary school classes would be charged with assault and battery.(including myself in both roles as "victim" and "assailant")

And forget about games like dodgeball where the game itself is organized mob assault.

Seems ridiculous but school districts have forbidden traditional schoolyard games like tag, dodgeball as well as playground equipment because they were seen as hazardous"

What an utterly dull and lifeless childhood children would have under these guidelines...

I can imagine what fathers here would think if their son came home from school having been attacked in this manner.

Evidently his family didn't see it as "assault" as his sister didn't know about it.

His father probably didn't like it and maybe asked for the boys to reprimanded but he (evidently) didn't demand the offenders to be hauled off to court.

And I have come home from real fights with black eye and scraps and neither side was charged with "assault". Just detention. But those were times when people didn't hyperventilate over such things and kept it in perspective.

p.s. It has come out that the accuser didn't even witness the event.

[EyeGuy]

I wonder what “Cliff” looks like...

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Ward, I’m worried about the MrB.

[ansel12]

Give a woman an Indian burn or participate in a voluntary game of dodge ball, or overcome her enough to get her on the ground and cut off her hair by force, which one would you prefer trying to defend to a jury in a court room, as harmless, which one would you not want on your record?

[RedMonqey]

Give a woman an Indian burn or participate in a voluntary game of dodge ball, or...

In this day of hypersensitivity and run a muck lawyers with lawuit happy clients where just barely touching a woman could bring sexual harassment charges, (as would any of the things I offered) none of the above.

However since the original topic wasn't adults but grade school students in the Sixties before society lost its collective mind, please answer the question:


Would you also classify "Indian burns", "purple urples", "red bellys" and "wet willies" to name a few, as "assaults"?

Of course the answer is:

In an Sixties court you would be laughed at by the judge and told to quit wasting the courts time as the "case" would be referred back to the school district.

The school would handle it, parents would be called in, suspensions given out and a letter would be put in one's permanent folder. And OoooooH!!!! A spanking!!!!(The horrors!!!!)

Not the hysterics performed by today's weak sisters and professional crybabies who scream bloody murder at the tiniest slight.

[ansel12]

Weird, not only do you compare someone attacking an individual to cut off his hair to kids playing dodge ball, but you don’t know how old Mitt Romney was in 1965.

These were military age males, it was 1965 and Mitt was born in 1947.

This would have been considered a real attack in 1965.

[presidio9]

I'm all about fringe.

[presidio9]

[RedMonqey]

Weird, not only do you compare someone attacking an individual to cut off his hair to kids playing dodge ball, but you don’t know how old Mitt Romney was in 1965

No I didn't. I asked you a question(one you refuse to answer)"would you also classify "Indian burns", "purple urples", "red bellys" and "wet willies" to name a few, as "assaults"?"And added (sarcastically) And forget about games like dodge ball where the game itself is organized mob assault.

Maybe you won't answer because your opinion puts you among those who want such games banned and criminalize because these activities are "harmful' and create a "hostile atmosphere"

As for Mitt being 18. He was born March 12, 1947, which means he spent most of his senior year as a minor and thus the odds of his confrontation with Lauber most likely happened as a minor and NOT eligible for the military.

And if this "attack" so heinous, then why no charges? Where is the school administrators? Where is the arrestting officer? Where is the outrage from his family? Even his own sister didn't know about this so called "outrage"

Because it was a prank worthy of school corrections, not a criminal court.

Only by the politically correct crowd with an axe to grind is this (albeit cruel) act elevated into a federal case(hate crime)

Of course the only reason this is even newsworthy is because it is being used as an battering ram against the presumed Republican party nominee and a distraction from Obama's dismay leadership of the economy.

And it has worked as it has distracted the gullible and easily lead to make Romney and "bullying" the issue and not Obama and the Democrats. Part of their scheme to turn America into their Nanny state.

[ansel12]

Your posts get weirder, longer, and further afield, I have answered you, I would much rather face a judge for pinching an arm or playing in a voluntary dodge ball game than for attacking someone violently, subduing them with pals, and cutting his hair off, meaning I think your questions in that regard are ridiculous.

Mitt was 17, old enough to enlist, although no male in his direct line has ever done so, even the draft can’t catch them.

You are smoking pot if you think that an attack of this nature was not a serious thing in 1965, I don’t know if you were still in high school yourself, or already out, but if you have some vision that such a thing was laughed off as an innocent prank, then you are wrong. My guess is that the victim kid kept it as quiet as possible.

Romney apologized for it, and claimed that he can’t remember it, a normal person would be stunned and outraged that it could even be thought possible for them to have been like that, they would not claim being unable to remember if they were doing that kind of thing or not. No one forgets doing that kind of violence.

When were your high school days?

[RedMonqey]

You keep misquoting my statements and saying things I didn't say and you claim to say things you clearly didn't say.(Oh please, point out where you said "face a judge" !!)

I never said it wasn't "serious" but said it didn't warrant "criminal charges."That "the school would handle it"

No one else involved at the time deemed it criminal. Only Romney's accuser who wasn't there claims recently it was an "assault." And not until Romney appears to be the party's nominee,

Rather conveniently as the 'victim' couldn't give his version because he is dead.

On another thread you claimed:

"....with the question of how, or why no Romney man has ever served the United States as a military man, that is about 180 years of unbroken cult devotion that needs to be looked at."

When that was proven false by Brown Deer, you changed your story to "no direct lineage"

Of course that fact that the Romneys had family members serve in various armed forces and the fact his "direct lineage" was either too old or too young to serve during wartime put a large hole in you arguement about the Romneys didn't serve in the military.

I would say your claims are weird to the point of absurdity.

I give you further answers when you learn to read and comprehend these simple replies.

[ansel12]

No, go back over five years of my posts and many other freepers regarding Romney and his lines unbroken record of not serving us in the service, we never meant that literally no man with the name of Romney had ever been in the military or that no one in his vast Mormon extended family had not possibly been in the service, your inability to interpret reality and to not see the obvious intent of a post, and to cling to it angrily it for weeks or months or however long it has been, is truly bizarre, and is personalizing it.

I can see that you are personally engaged here and are dragging other threads and other topics onto this thread, that is against FR policy.

The weirdness in your posts on this thread are now explained, you are a grudge poster carrying personal baggage around FR and devoted to Romney.

You have issues friend, my guess is that you have been bully bait for much of your life, and that is why you are accepting of Mitt’s violent bullying.

[RedMonqey]

...dragging other threads and other topics onto this thread, that is against FR policy.

No it is not. Serial posting of the same article in multiple threads is however frowned upon.

Nice try.

But I understand you pain.

It must be tough being forced fed your own bitter words back down your throat.
It must leave a terrible aftertaste.

...we never meant that literally no man with the name of Romney had ever been in the military...

Your words, in context, state otherwise. Had not another challenge your falsehoods, you would still be clinging to these falsehoods.

No, go back over five years of my posts and many other freepers regarding Romney

Unlike you, who has an really unhealthy obsession(FIVE YEARS?) with all things Romney and Mormons, I only recently started to post on Romney/Mormon threads. (Really FIVE YEARS? I would be EMBRASSASSED to PUBLICLY ADMIT I had a MAN CRUSH for Romney for FIVE YEARS.)

I started “defending” Romney on political grounds when it became apparent to all (well, to all who still have contact with reality) that the election will be between Obama the leftist radical, or Romney who at least gives conservatives hope, however slight.


As for "personally engaged" and "a grudge poster carrying personal baggage"

Look in the mirror, buddy!
Look in the mirror!

I'm (hahaha)a mere rank amateur (hahaahaa) compared to you and your obsession.(hahahaa) Mr. Big Touppff Texan and his "Sheepdog!!!! (hahaha)


After this election, I will leave all this behind and continue my life.
You, however will continue your mad rantings about Mormonism and man crush for Romney(haahaa)for another five years or until the Secret Service or men in white put you into a padded cell for your own protection.


But keep waiting for that "prefect Christian candidate of your fantasy world, Obama appreciates your patience.

[ansel12]

Wow, for you to be so angry and bitter at a stranger on an internet forum and so deeply invested in such personal emotional rage toward me, as your post displays, shows that you need to step back a little and not think that you are meeting deep personal enemies here.
Maybe you need to try and find something else to do for a while before you explode, remember that Romney is merely a man, and that you are on a conservative site, where the owner, and many conservatives, are not blind to his history and politics.

[RedMonqey]

Wow, for you to be so angry and bitter at a stranger

Anger? Bitter?
Those are the bricks in the bag you carry around. And I'm laughing at time and energy (FIVE YEARS )you have wasted spreading falsehoods because you have a tick against a religion and a person whom never did you any harm.

And when confronted with it, you stutter and stammer and squeal like a stuck pig, and make excuses for the fraud that stuck to you like glue.

I'm happy just to be one of the many freepers who helped tear down that dilapidated structure of lies you built the last FIVES years in just a couple of days.


No this isn't anger What I'm doing is mocking you for the fool you truly are.

And like all narrow minded bigots, you provided me with excellent material to work with.

My mistake was treating you as an serious debater with serious issues. Now, you just have issues.

You are a fake, Mr Texas.