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Romney’s denials about homophobic assault are despicable
NY ALTNEWS ^ | 05/10/2012 | Cliff Weathers

Posted on 05/10/2012 12:10:38 PM PDT by presidio9

There may be a good reason voters can’t get a good bead on Mitt Romney. And it may be because the real Romney has a troubled, sadistic history. High School classmates of Romney recall an incident that’s disturbing to its core. Romney, then a popular senior at the prestigious Cranbrook School in Michigan, disapproved of classmate John Lauber’s long, blond locks, which Romney allegedly took as a clue that Lauber was a homosexual. So Romney assembled a posse of bullies and held the boy down and brutally chopped off his hair.

“He can’t look like that. That’s wrong. Just look at him!” an incensed Romney told Matthew Friedemann, his close friend in the Stevens Hall dorm, according to Friedemann’s recollection. Mitt, the teenaged son of Michigan Gov. George Romney, kept complaining about Lauber’s look, Friedemann recalled.

A few days later, Friedemann entered Stevens Hall off the school’s collegiate quad to find Romney marching out of his own room ahead of a prep school posse shouting about their plan to cut Lauber’s hair. Friedemann followed them to a nearby room where they came upon Lauber, tackled him and pinned him to the ground. As Lauber, his eyes filling with tears, screamed for help, Romney repeatedly clipped his hair with a pair of scissors.

The incident was recalled similarly by five students, who gave their accounts independently of one another. Four of them — Friedemann, now a dentist; Phillip Maxwell, a lawyer; Thomas Buford, a retired prosecutor; and David Seed, a retired principal — spoke on the record. Another former student who witnessed the incident asked not to be named. The men have differing political affiliations, although they mostly lean Democratic. Buford volunteered for Barack Obama’s campaign in 2008. Seed, a registered independent, has served as a Republican county chairman in Michigan. All of them said that politics in no way colored their recollections.

Today, Romney’s actions would be considered a hate crime. The assault itself is a felony.

So is Mitt Romney sorry for his actions 47 years ago? Nope, unlike five of his classmates, the Republican presidential candidate has no recollection of assaulting Lauber. His campaign team put out this statement:

… the former Massachusetts governor has no recollection of the incident.

Why would Mitt Romney not remember straddling another boy and savagely cutting off his hair? Because the event meant nothing to Romney. Lauber was beneath his contempt. He wasn’t human to the young Romney.

But won’t voters find it disturbing is that five classmates vividly recall the event, but Romney doesn’t? Uh oh, time for shake the Romney Etch-A-Sketch…. Oh that brutal attack? It appears Mitt does remember assaulting Lauber, but…

I certainly don’t believe that I thought the fellow was homosexual. That was the furthest thing from our minds back in the 1960s.

And he still hasn’t apologized.

Also Romney is trying to claim that rampant homophobia didn’t exist in the 1960s? Perhaps that’s why it was so easy for homosexual men to come out back then. You better try again Mitt, you’re getting caught in yet another deep, disturbing lie.

Romney’s actions may be decades old, but they highlight a current problem among the Republican Party: Bullying is an acceptable form of punishment to quell dissent and non-conformity. From Ray Kelly’s spying on Muslims and brutal treatment of peaceful Occupy Wall Street voters to Rush Limbaugh’s labeling of independent women as “feminazis,” “sluts,” and “prostitutes,” the GOP has bcome vile, mean, and intolerant at its core.

Lauber died in 2004, so it is too late for Mitt Romney to apologize to him, but it doesn’t mean he shouldn’t apologize to the public for his actions. As a bullied child myself, I find Romney’s actions in 1965 to be beyond contempt. The emotional scars I bear from the bullying and assaults I had to endure during my teenage years still haunt me.I remember my attackers gleeful faces as they heckled and assaulted me. I remember the names they called me, I remember feeling the spit on my cheek, I remember the punches they threw, I remember the helplessness I felt. There are millions of people like me, we were the “retards,” the “fags,” the “geeks,” and the “losers.” You see, it doesn’t matter to us whether Lauber was gay or not. It also doesn’t matter that Romney didn’t attack him for being gay. What matters is that Lauber was physically assaulted for being different, for being subhuman, to being on a lower social stratus than a scion of wealth and affluence.

I have never received an apologies from the bullies that made my life hell. Today, one of them even denies the events ever happened. To me, this only heightens my contempt for bullies; when caught, they feel it’s acceptable for them to dismiss the event. It either didn’t occur or didn’t matter. My contempt for bullying has only grown because of this. And now, I have a new-found contempt for Mitt Romney, America’s lead bully. And his denying the significance of such an event is just as despicable as the assault.


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To: MrB

Thanks for the laugh.


101 posted on 05/10/2012 2:53:34 PM PDT by pnut22
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To: presidio9

Goode is out to win
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Virgil Goode
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102 posted on 05/10/2012 3:06:02 PM PDT by Mozilla (Constitution Party 2012)
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To: apillar
I've actually come close to defending Mittens a few times today

I don't have any problem defending Mitt Romney when he's right but I'll never vote for him. I'd even defend Obama on the few occasions that he is right, like ticking off the Turkish Muslims by calling for them to admit to the genocide of the Armenian Christians in WWI. The sad thing is that each of these two are right so infrequently that I fear for our nation in the next four years, regardless of who wins, and I seldom have to defend either.

103 posted on 05/10/2012 3:29:18 PM PDT by CommerceComet (Obama vs. Romney - clear evidence that our nation has been judged by God and found wanting.)
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To: Mitt Romney

Oh for God’s sake Romney, here’s what you need to say:

Back in the mid-sixties, there were two kinds of people; hippies...and people who cut hippies hair.


104 posted on 05/10/2012 3:45:40 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

He was ‘Just kicking hippies asses and raising hell.’


105 posted on 05/10/2012 3:47:08 PM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: presidio9
I'll bet about the only honest words from Romney I've heard were in is denying that he did it because he thouht the guy was gay -- I totally believe it. He didn't cut the guy's hair because he thought the guy was gay -- he cut the guy's hair because the hair offended him, because it was a cool hard-ass thing to do to a hippie kid. That sounds just like Romney, to me. We all knew guys like that in school, didn't we? I know I did.

It's a life illustration of how Romney's intrinsic arrogance assumes a right to control by force because the other guy isn't doing it the way Romney wants.

Witness his governing record in Massachusettes.

106 posted on 05/10/2012 3:48:17 PM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent * By the way, Ted, voting for Romney is voting stupid.)
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To: presidio9

ABC news just made a “federal case” out of Mittens high school rough housing, Labeling him a “bully”.


107 posted on 05/10/2012 3:51:57 PM PDT by swamprebel (Where liberty dwells, there is my country.)
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To: swamprebel

He was a bully, a violent one.

A guy like him would have been shut down hard in my Texas high school.


108 posted on 05/10/2012 4:08:27 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Obama, Romney,"Eurasia" "Eastasia" "Oceania" I can't keep up with the players anymore.)
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To: dfwgator; Mitt Romney; All
Just kicking hippies asses and raising hell.

Unfortunately, they became our College "professors" and "educators" as well as top level members of every government department or agency, federal, state and local.

Bleepin' communists.

109 posted on 05/10/2012 4:08:27 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: Truth29
You did this to girls as a senior in High School? How long ago was this?

No, I never did that. I just made up a disgusting story to make a point.

110 posted on 05/10/2012 4:17:03 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (When we cease to be good we'll cease to be great. Be for Goode.)
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To: presidio9

“most electable” bump


111 posted on 05/10/2012 6:26:18 PM PDT by Dajjal ("I'm not concerned about the very poor." -- severely conservative Mitt 'Etch-A-Sketch' Rmoney)
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To: CatherineofAragon
He looks like a Sleestack.

LOL!


112 posted on 05/10/2012 6:49:57 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: presidio9
Calling this prank “bullying” just shows how the feminization has changed America.

This wouldn't rank a 1 out of 1 to 10, on the bully scale, 10 being an absolute beat down, requiring hospitalization and arrest.

I've had worse “bullying” by my brothers and friends just by horseplaying around.

When we got hurt and whined about it, we were told to "Stop being such a Pu@@y" and get over it. God help America if we ever get into another WW2.

We are all Frenchmen now....

113 posted on 05/10/2012 6:56:48 PM PDT by RedMonqey (Men who will not suffer to self govern, will suffer under the governance of lesser men.)
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To: RedMonqey

It IS BULLYING. BY Romney who has
assaulted a few people on airplanes, too, recently.


114 posted on 05/10/2012 7:20:20 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: ansel12
He was a bully, a violent one.

Dude. HE WAS A KID.

Seriously, no one cares.

115 posted on 05/10/2012 8:36:59 PM PDT by Lazamataz (To the wall, street occupiers!!!!!)
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To: Lazamataz

The “kid” would have been Army enlistment age.

At his age I was an anti-bully force, to have come on to a scene like that would have required action from me, I would have introduced Romney to a conservative sheepdog type.


116 posted on 05/10/2012 8:48:44 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Obama, Romney,"Eurasia" "Eastasia" "Oceania" I can't keep up with the players anymore.)
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117 posted on 05/11/2012 2:18:28 AM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: presidio9

STOP THE PRESS - THE HOMOS ARE UPSET!!!


118 posted on 05/11/2012 2:31:37 AM PDT by Hacksaw (If I had a son, he'd look like George Zimmerman.)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

Oh, believe me, Romney is somewhat preferable to Obama. I’d rather be stabbed once than shot at close range once. There is SOME chance of survival.


119 posted on 05/11/2012 7:02:44 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Diogenesis
It IS BULLYING. BY Romney who has assaulted a few people on airplanes, too, recently.

What? Did he ask briskly for an extra bag of nuts?

Care to point to a few articles?
120 posted on 05/11/2012 7:56:02 AM PDT by RedMonqey (Men who will not suffer to self govern, will suffer under the governance of lesser men.)
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To: ansel12; Lazamataz
The “kid” would have been Army enlistment age.

As would the alleged "victim"

If Romney and his cohorts wanted to put the hurt on Lauber, there are countless things they could have done to him worse than a "buzz" cut.

Personally I've been ganged up by a couple of sixth grade school yard thugs(I was a pudgy fifth grader) and they gave me alot worse. And at least one of them got an Converse sneeker to the family jewels allowing me time to get away.

This is nothing more than a prank blown out of proportion to distract the voters away from obama's failures.
121 posted on 05/11/2012 8:10:37 AM PDT by RedMonqey (Men who will not suffer to self govern, will suffer under the governance of lesser men.)
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To: ansel12
At his age I was an anti-bully force

So, you are a bully.

122 posted on 05/11/2012 8:11:38 AM PDT by Lazamataz (To the wall, street occupiers!!!!!)
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To: Lazamataz

Weird that you would think that a person who stands up to the bad guys, and the attackers, are bullies.

When I witness a bar fight, and I see a man pull out a knife, and I jump in to disarm him and stop the fight, am I bullying the knife man, when I see a man hit his wife and I intervene, you think that I am bullying him, stopping Romney and his posse from assaulting this guy, would be bullying them? When I jump on a guy and disarm him as he is going into his kids room to murder him and his mother in a murder/suicide event, that is bullying him?

Protecting victims, is not being a bully, it is protecting people.


123 posted on 05/11/2012 8:41:06 AM PDT by ansel12 ( Obama, Romney,"Eurasia" "Eastasia" "Oceania" I can't keep up with the players anymore.)
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To: ansel12

What a bully you are. You should apologize. And stop pushing people around, you damned bully.


124 posted on 05/11/2012 8:46:05 AM PDT by Lazamataz (To the wall, street occupiers!!!!!)
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To: RedMonqey

Forming a posse to hold down a person and cut their hair, is not a prank, it is a full blown assault.

I can imagine what fathers here would think if their son came home from school having been attacked in this manner.

I think the violence of the act would enrage them.


125 posted on 05/11/2012 8:52:11 AM PDT by ansel12 ( Obama, Romney,"Eurasia" "Eastasia" "Oceania" I can't keep up with the players anymore.)
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To: presidio9
Romney’s denials about homophobic assault are despicable

Headline should have read: I'm Barack Obama, and I approve this message.

The only thing despicable about this story is the WaPo sitting on this story, as it was given them some time ago, until Idi Obama could come out of the closet and they could attempt to smear Romney with it as a homo-bashing bully.

126 posted on 05/11/2012 9:00:34 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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To: ansel12
Forming a posse to hold down a person and cut their hair, is not a prank, it is a full blown assault.

So in that same vein would you also classify "Indian burns", "purple urples", "red bellys" and "wet willies" to name a few, as "assaults"?

If so, then most of my elementary school classes would be charged with assault and battery.(including myself in both roles as "victim" and "assailant")

And forget about games like dodgeball where the game itself is organized mob assault.

Seems ridiculous but school districts have forbidden traditional schoolyard games like tag, dodgeball as well as playground equipment because they were seen as hazardous"

What an utterly dull and lifeless childhood children would have under these guidelines...

I can imagine what fathers here would think if their son came home from school having been attacked in this manner.

Evidently his family didn't see it as "assault" as his sister didn't know about it.

His father probably didn't like it and maybe asked for the boys to reprimanded but he (evidently) didn't demand the offenders to be hauled off to court.

And I have come home from real fights with black eye and scraps and neither side was charged with "assault". Just detention. But those were times when people didn't hyperventilate over such things and kept it in perspective.

p.s. It has come out that the accuser didn't even witness the event.
127 posted on 05/11/2012 10:41:03 AM PDT by RedMonqey (Men who will not suffer to self govern, will suffer under the governance of lesser men.)
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To: MrB

I wonder what “Cliff” looks like...

####

Ward, I’m worried about the MrB.


128 posted on 05/11/2012 10:44:13 AM PDT by EyeGuy (Non-Holder person.)
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To: RedMonqey

Give a woman an Indian burn or participate in a voluntary game of dodge ball, or overcome her enough to get her on the ground and cut off her hair by force, which one would you prefer trying to defend to a jury in a court room, as harmless, which one would you not want on your record?


129 posted on 05/11/2012 3:25:47 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Obama, Romney,"Eurasia" "Eastasia" "Oceania" I can't keep up with the players anymore.)
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To: ansel12
Give a woman an Indian burn or participate in a voluntary game of dodge ball, or...

In this day of hypersensitivity and run a muck lawyers with lawuit happy clients where just barely touching a woman could bring sexual harassment charges, (as would any of the things I offered) none of the above.

However since the original topic wasn't adults but grade school students in the Sixties before society lost its collective mind, please answer the question:


Would you also classify "Indian burns", "purple urples", "red bellys" and "wet willies" to name a few, as "assaults"?

Of course the answer is:

In an Sixties court you would be laughed at by the judge and told to quit wasting the courts time as the "case" would be referred back to the school district.

The school would handle it, parents would be called in, suspensions given out and a letter would be put in one's permanent folder. And OoooooH!!!! A spanking!!!!(The horrors!!!!)

Not the hysterics performed by today's weak sisters and professional crybabies who scream bloody murder at the tiniest slight.
130 posted on 05/11/2012 4:13:30 PM PDT by RedMonqey (Men who will not suffer to self govern, will suffer under the governance of lesser men.)
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To: RedMonqey

Weird, not only do you compare someone attacking an individual to cut off his hair to kids playing dodge ball, but you don’t know how old Mitt Romney was in 1965.

These were military age males, it was 1965 and Mitt was born in 1947.

This would have been considered a real attack in 1965.


131 posted on 05/11/2012 4:41:51 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Obama, Romney,"Eurasia" "Eastasia" "Oceania" I can't keep up with the players anymore.)
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To: Lazamataz

I'm all about fringe.

132 posted on 05/11/2012 6:37:38 PM PDT by presidio9 (See me. Feel me. Touch Me. Heal Me.)
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To: Meet the New Boss

133 posted on 05/11/2012 6:46:49 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: ansel12
Weird, not only do you compare someone attacking an individual to cut off his hair to kids playing dodge ball, but you don’t know how old Mitt Romney was in 1965

No I didn't. I asked you a question(one you refuse to answer)"would you also classify "Indian burns", "purple urples", "red bellys" and "wet willies" to name a few, as "assaults"?"And added (sarcastically) And forget about games like dodge ball where the game itself is organized mob assault.

Maybe you won't answer because your opinion puts you among those who want such games banned and criminalize because these activities are "harmful' and create a "hostile atmosphere"

As for Mitt being 18. He was born March 12, 1947, which means he spent most of his senior year as a minor and thus the odds of his confrontation with Lauber most likely happened as a minor and NOT eligible for the military.

And if this "attack" so heinous, then why no charges? Where is the school administrators? Where is the arrestting officer? Where is the outrage from his family? Even his own sister didn't know about this so called "outrage"

Because it was a prank worthy of school corrections, not a criminal court.

Only by the politically correct crowd with an axe to grind is this (albeit cruel) act elevated into a federal case(hate crime)

Of course the only reason this is even newsworthy is because it is being used as an battering ram against the presumed Republican party nominee and a distraction from Obama's dismay leadership of the economy.

And it has worked as it has distracted the gullible and easily lead to make Romney and "bullying" the issue and not Obama and the Democrats. Part of their scheme to turn America into their Nanny state.
134 posted on 05/11/2012 9:49:42 PM PDT by RedMonqey (Men who will not suffer to self govern, will suffer under the governance of lesser men.)
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To: RedMonqey

Your posts get weirder, longer, and further afield, I have answered you, I would much rather face a judge for pinching an arm or playing in a voluntary dodge ball game than for attacking someone violently, subduing them with pals, and cutting his hair off, meaning I think your questions in that regard are ridiculous.

Mitt was 17, old enough to enlist, although no male in his direct line has ever done so, even the draft can’t catch them.

You are smoking pot if you think that an attack of this nature was not a serious thing in 1965, I don’t know if you were still in high school yourself, or already out, but if you have some vision that such a thing was laughed off as an innocent prank, then you are wrong. My guess is that the victim kid kept it as quiet as possible.

Romney apologized for it, and claimed that he can’t remember it, a normal person would be stunned and outraged that it could even be thought possible for them to have been like that, they would not claim being unable to remember if they were doing that kind of thing or not. No one forgets doing that kind of violence.

When were your high school days?


135 posted on 05/11/2012 10:20:04 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Not voting Romney?? Then double up on down ticket races and your participation this election.)
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To: ansel12
You keep misquoting my statements and saying things I didn't say and you claim to say things you clearly didn't say.(Oh please, point out where you said "face a judge" !!)

I never said it wasn't "serious" but said it didn't warrant "criminal charges."That "the school would handle it"

No one else involved at the time deemed it criminal. Only Romney's accuser who wasn't there claims recently it was an "assault." And not until Romney appears to be the party's nominee,

Rather conveniently as the 'victim' couldn't give his version because he is dead.

On another thread you claimed:

"....with the question of how, or why no Romney man has ever served the United States as a military man, that is about 180 years of unbroken cult devotion that needs to be looked at."

When that was proven false by Brown Deer, you changed your story to "no direct lineage"

Of course that fact that the Romneys had family members serve in various armed forces and the fact his "direct lineage" was either too old or too young to serve during wartime put a large hole in you arguement about the Romneys didn't serve in the military.

I would say your claims are weird to the point of absurdity.

I give you further answers when you learn to read and comprehend these simple replies.
136 posted on 05/11/2012 11:59:44 PM PDT by RedMonqey (Men who will not suffer to self govern, will suffer under the governance of lesser men.)
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To: RedMonqey

No, go back over five years of my posts and many other freepers regarding Romney and his lines unbroken record of not serving us in the service, we never meant that literally no man with the name of Romney had ever been in the military or that no one in his vast Mormon extended family had not possibly been in the service, your inability to interpret reality and to not see the obvious intent of a post, and to cling to it angrily it for weeks or months or however long it has been, is truly bizarre, and is personalizing it.

I can see that you are personally engaged here and are dragging other threads and other topics onto this thread, that is against FR policy.

The weirdness in your posts on this thread are now explained, you are a grudge poster carrying personal baggage around FR and devoted to Romney.

You have issues friend, my guess is that you have been bully bait for much of your life, and that is why you are accepting of Mitt’s violent bullying.


137 posted on 05/12/2012 12:15:06 AM PDT by ansel12 ( Not voting Romney?? Then double up on down ticket races and your participation this election.)
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To: ansel12
...dragging other threads and other topics onto this thread, that is against FR policy.

No it is not. Serial posting of the same article in multiple threads is however frowned upon.

Nice try.

But I understand you pain.

It must be tough being forced fed your own bitter words back down your throat.
It must leave a terrible aftertaste.



...we never meant that literally no man with the name of Romney had ever been in the military...

Your words, in context, state otherwise. Had not another challenge your falsehoods, you would still be clinging to these falsehoods.

No, go back over five years of my posts and many other freepers regarding Romney

Unlike you, who has an really unhealthy obsession(FIVE YEARS?) with all things Romney and Mormons, I only recently started to post on Romney/Mormon threads. (Really FIVE YEARS? I would be EMBRASSASSED to PUBLICLY ADMIT I had a MAN CRUSH for Romney for FIVE YEARS.)

I started “defending” Romney on political grounds when it became apparent to all (well, to all who still have contact with reality) that the election will be between Obama the leftist radical, or Romney who at least gives conservatives hope, however slight.


As for "personally engaged" and "a grudge poster carrying personal baggage"

Look in the mirror, buddy!
Look in the mirror!

I'm (hahaha)a mere rank amateur (hahaahaa) compared to you and your obsession.(hahahaa) Mr. Big Touppff Texan and his "Sheepdog!!!! (hahaha)


After this election, I will leave all this behind and continue my life.
You, however will continue your mad rantings about Mormonism and man crush for Romney(haahaa)for another five years or until the Secret Service or men in white put you into a padded cell for your own protection.


But keep waiting for that "prefect Christian candidate of your fantasy world, Obama appreciates your patience.

138 posted on 05/12/2012 1:27:12 PM PDT by RedMonqey (Men who will not suffer to self govern, will suffer under the governance of lesser men.)
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To: RedMonqey

Wow, for you to be so angry and bitter at a stranger on an internet forum and so deeply invested in such personal emotional rage toward me, as your post displays, shows that you need to step back a little and not think that you are meeting deep personal enemies here.
Maybe you need to try and find something else to do for a while before you explode, remember that Romney is merely a man, and that you are on a conservative site, where the owner, and many conservatives, are not blind to his history and politics.


139 posted on 05/12/2012 2:09:49 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Not voting Romney?? Then double up on down ticket races and your participation this election.)
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To: ansel12
Wow, for you to be so angry and bitter at a stranger

Anger? Bitter?
Those are the bricks in the bag you carry around. And I'm laughing at time and energy (FIVE YEARS )you have wasted spreading falsehoods because you have a tick against a religion and a person whom never did you any harm.

And when confronted with it, you stutter and stammer and squeal like a stuck pig, and make excuses for the fraud that stuck to you like glue.

I'm happy just to be one of the many freepers who helped tear down that dilapidated structure of lies you built the last FIVES years in just a couple of days.


No this isn't anger What I'm doing is mocking you for the fool you truly are.

And like all narrow minded bigots, you provided me with excellent material to work with.

My mistake was treating you as an serious debater with serious issues. Now, you just have issues.

You are a fake, Mr Texas.
140 posted on 05/12/2012 3:17:11 PM PDT by RedMonqey (Men who will not suffer to self govern, will suffer under the governance of lesser men.)
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To: RedMonqey

Since you have dropped the pretense of posting on a thread topic, and have gone totally personal I’ll respond with this summary, and see if you think that it is reasonable, or the “lies” of a “narrow minded bigot”.
You find this (below) spreading falsehoods? I call it sane and truthful.

There is very little difference between Romney and Obama’s actual records. Both supported abortion, gay rights, gun control, liberal judges, global warming, compulsory health insurance, individual mandates, government control over the economy, etc, in other words liberal progressive policies. And they both loathed Reagan, conservatism and the tea party.

Romney now swears he’s a Reagan conservative. He also claims that his brand of government controlled, government forced, mandated compulsory health insurance is a “free-market conservative solution.” He also still says that even if president, he would do nothing about gays in the military. You can bet that means he will do nothing to thwart the advancing gay agenda. He also still says today that man-made global warming is real and that government will eventually have to do something about it. There goes our free-economy. He also says that TARP, the bailouts, the stimulus spending, etc, were all good ideas and that more may be necessary. So he truly does believe that government control of the economy, picking winners and losers, etc, is a good thing. Crony capitalism. He never even mentions the constitution which doesn’t give the federal government the authority to do any of the above. Wonder why.

No Reaganite here, so guess that’s just another lie too.

And they now call me a troll too for simply stating the truth.


141 posted on 05/12/2012 3:47:39 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Not voting Romney?? Then double up on down ticket races and your participation this election.)
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To: presidio9

This so-called incident has been debunked. Shown to be nothing more than a screed built of fabrication, exaggeration, innuendo and political skulduggery.

This is only the beginning. During the summer and fall, as Obama’s re-elect numbers continue to be dismal, as I believe they will, no lie against Romney and other Republicans will go untold.


142 posted on 05/12/2012 5:59:41 PM PDT by citizen (Obama blames:arab spring,banks,big oil,bush,ceos,christians,coal,FNC,Jpn tsumani,T Party,wall st,you)
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To: Sirius Lee

OFGS


143 posted on 05/12/2012 6:02:22 PM PDT by altura (Looking for sanity in all the wrong places.)
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To: Yaelle

Why are you taking this article seriously?

It has been refuted by everyone. The family of the so-called victim denies it and resents that their (now dead) relative is being lied about for political purposes.

If you don’t like Romney, fine, but don’t start believing all the lies told about him by the left.

Make up your own lies.


144 posted on 05/12/2012 6:20:50 PM PDT by altura (Looking for sanity in all the wrong places.)
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To: altura

That was 2 days ago. The woman hadn’t refuted it yet.

Plus, Romney seems to have a bit of a mean streak in him. Period.


145 posted on 05/12/2012 8:16:11 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: citizen; altura

It hasn’t been debunked or even close to that, but Romney has apologized for it.


146 posted on 05/12/2012 10:35:31 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Not voting Romney?? Then double up on down ticket races and your participation this election.)
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To: ansel12
See?

Now how difficult was that?

As a simple scanning of my previous posts, show I have a great deal of doubt about Romney's "Latter Day Conservatism" and we have alot more in common about Romney's commitment on the issues conservatives hold and wish advanced. One only has to view the U-tube clips of his Senate Race against Ted Kennedy to see his utter disdain for Reagan and "Reaganomics."

Zeroing in on his religion only divided us.

I would, as I guess you would too, support a movement in the GOP convention to rally around another candidate other than Romney.

So I suggest, for the sake of party unity for a better candidate, we call a truce.

Agreed?
147 posted on 05/13/2012 10:27:08 AM PDT by RedMonqey (Men who will not suffer to self govern, will suffer under the governance of lesser men.)
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To: RedMonqey

Truce about what, you merely need to reign in your posting actions and personalizing attacks on freepers.

Post 141 was a reasonable summary of where freerepublic should be in regards to Romney.


148 posted on 05/13/2012 10:37:16 AM PDT by ansel12 ( Not voting Romney?? Then double up on down ticket races and your participation this election.)
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To: RedMonqey

As far as your effort to limit discussion on Mitt Romney, you need to visit this post to JR at this link.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2883067/posts?page=266#266


149 posted on 05/13/2012 10:54:47 AM PDT by ansel12 ( Not voting Romney?? Then double up on down ticket races and your participation this election.)
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To: dfwgator
I might adapt the position of “Work for a Romney victory 2012, and a Romney defeat in 2016.”

Yes. The tea party folks will take him out in the GOP primary. Unless the threat of being taken out in the primary makes him govern right.

150 posted on 05/13/2012 11:06:18 AM PDT by Poincare (Reality is not a fool.)
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