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Franklin Graham: Obama shook fist at God by supporting same-sex marriage
WSOC ^ | 5/10/2012 | STAFF

Posted on 05/10/2012 8:54:48 AM PDT by tobyhill

Franklin Graham said President Obama has “shaken his fist” at God by announcing his support for same-sex marriage.

On Wednesday, Obama voiced his support for same-sex marriage, saying he was taking a personal position on the issue.

"I have hesitated on gay marriage in part because I thought that civil unions would be sufficient," Obama said in the interview with ABC. He added, "I was sensitive to the fact that for a lot of people the word 'marriage' was something that evokes very powerful traditions, religious beliefs and so forth."

Now, he said, "it is important for me personally to go ahead and affirm that same-sex couples should be able to get married."

Franklin Graham, president and CEO of the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association, issued a statement Thursday about the president’s decision.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bhofascism; franklingraham; moralabsolutes; nobama2012; obama; samesexmarriage

1 posted on 05/10/2012 8:54:52 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

“I was sensitive to the fact that for a lot of people the word ‘marriage’ was something that evokes very powerful traditions, religious beliefs and so forth.”

Of course I simply don’t care what they think and have no respect for their history, traditions and beliefs.


2 posted on 05/10/2012 8:56:25 AM PDT by edcoil (It is not over until I win.)
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To: tobyhill

I agree with Franklin’s comments.


3 posted on 05/10/2012 8:57:57 AM PDT by Obadiah (Resist we much!)
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To: edcoil

“Franklin Graham: Obama shook fist at God by supporting same-sex marriage (It wasn’t his fist)”

Obama shook his fist at the American electorate who overwhelmingly reject the notion of homosexual marriage.


4 posted on 05/10/2012 9:02:30 AM PDT by Mashood
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To: edcoil
He claims to be a Christian yet everything he does is anti-Christian. I think Obama is gay and have thought that for a very long time. One of his first acts was repeal Don't Ask, Don't Tell which was a benefit for gay service members but he wanted to take that a step further and let them openly express their sexual preferences.

It's not even legal for heterosexual couples to come out and demonstrate affection when one or more is serving in the military. It's called Public Display of Affection and is a court martial offense.

5 posted on 05/10/2012 9:07:10 AM PDT by tobyhill (Conservatives are proud of themselves, Liberals lie about themselves)
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To: tobyhill

I agree with Graham completely and explained the same in dinner conversation last night. Putting words into Jesus' mouth so as to legitimize an abomination in the eyes of God is a fool's play. "Thou Shalt Not Use the Name of the Lord thy God in Vain". Obama has broken one of the big three in front of an audience of millions. I would not want to be him on the day he meets his Maker. I would not want to find myself standing anywhere near Obama between then and now, just in case God feels like voicing his disapproval before that time.


6 posted on 05/10/2012 9:17:00 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: tobyhill

It wasn’t his fist he shook at God...face it...he flipped the bird at Him.

His insolence will land him....along with everything else he’s done...in the deepest, darkest, and hottest pit of Hell.

I’ll pray for his repentance and salvation.


7 posted on 05/10/2012 9:17:21 AM PDT by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: hoagy62

I’ll continue to pray that God lights his ass up with a 500,000 volt lightning bolt. Him AND his wookie beard.


8 posted on 05/10/2012 9:20:21 AM PDT by mkjessup (Romney is to conservatism what Helen Thomas is to a high fashion model walkway.)
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To: edcoil

I think the gesture was flipping God off, not shaking his fist.


9 posted on 05/10/2012 9:26:36 AM PDT by jimt (Fear is the darkroom where negatives are developed.)
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To: tobyhill
Franklin Graham's statement:

On Tuesday my state of North Carolina became the 31st state to approve a constitutional amendment defining marriage as being between a man and a woman. While the move to pass amendments defining marriage is relatively new, the definition of marriage is 8,000 years old and was defined not by man, but by God Himself.

In changing his position from that of Senator/candidate Obama, President Obama has, in my view, shaken his fist at the same God who created and defined marriage. It grieves me that our president would now affirm same-sex marriage, though I believe it grieves God even more.

The institution of marriage should not be defined by presidents or polls, governors or the media. The definition was set long ago and changing legislation or policy will never change God's definition. This is a sad day for America. May God help us.


10 posted on 05/10/2012 9:37:23 AM PDT by Zakeet (Obama loves to wok dogs)
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To: tobyhill

I hope Franklin does not apologize again.

LLS


11 posted on 05/10/2012 9:41:24 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: mkjessup

“his wookiee beard”

Heh, heh, that’s cold steel, man.

;^)


12 posted on 05/10/2012 10:02:46 AM PDT by elcid1970 (Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind.")
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To: tobyhill

Its really going to suck to be Barry before long, when God is done with him.


13 posted on 05/10/2012 10:05:56 AM PDT by crosshairs
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To: hoagy62
His insolence will land him....along with everything else he’s done...in the deepest, darkest, and hottest pit of Hell.

I read his statement to equate Christ on the Cross with sodomy. Read it. You may see it that way too.

14 posted on 05/10/2012 10:09:40 AM PDT by Rapscallion (For English press "3", or "4". Whatever.)
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To: so_real

Obama does not believe his maker is the Christian GOD, instead he believes his maker is Allah. The populace of the USA have lost or never knew that that the USA was founded on a belief and faith in a Christian God not an Allah, not a Buddha, or any other entity. Obama has in the past referenced Lincoln but he deceptively ignores that Lincoln in the very famous Gettysburg address referred to a Nation under GOD not under Allah, Buddha, or whatever. Obama is a farce on/in the history of the USA with help from enablers such as Axelrod, Ayers, Soros, and other internationalists who are out to destroy the exceptional government established by our Founders.


15 posted on 05/10/2012 10:14:15 AM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: LibLieSlayer

What do you mean AGAIN? What has he apologized for in the past? He never stuck me as someone who will pander to muslims, liberals or evil manipulators.


16 posted on 05/10/2012 11:15:33 AM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: Zakeet; tobyhill
the definition of marriage is 8,000 years old and was defined not by man, but by God Himself.

My bible would suggest 6000 years.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
17 posted on 05/10/2012 11:17:50 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: tobyhill
Obama shook fist.......

Nothing to it. 0h0m0 is used to fisting.

18 posted on 05/10/2012 11:20:08 AM PDT by melancholy (Professor Alinsky, Enslavement Specialist, Ph.D in L0w and H0lder)
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To: melancholy

What do you expect from some guy that defines “sin” as “being out of alignment with my values”,

as if HE defines right and wrong... hmmm where did we see that? Oh yeah, Gen 3:4-5.


19 posted on 05/10/2012 11:21:47 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: tobyhill

I am not so religious but definitely agree with Rev Franklin Graham on this. “Gay marriage” or whatever you want to call this farce is against 5,772 years of Jewish-Christian religion and tradition. It is against 2012 years of Christian religion. It is against thousands of years of our cultural norms. Gays are defying God same as in Sodom and Gomorrah and dragging decent people into the same mess


20 posted on 05/10/2012 11:27:19 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: noinfringers2

Can we stop with Obama is Muslim nonsense. I don’t know any part of the Muslim religion that endorses gay marriage either.

Obama is a humanist Marxist progressive. He doesn’t believe in any God.


21 posted on 05/10/2012 11:29:54 AM PDT by Truthsearcher
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To: mkjessup
I’ll continue to pray that God lights his ass up with a 500,000 volt lightning bolt. Him AND his wookie beard.

Not sure God will hear that prayer...

Romans 12:4; Matthew 5:44; Luke 6:35; 1 Corinthians 4:12, 13; 1 Peter 2:23, 3:9

Anyone can love their family...but only through the Spirit of God can we love our enemies. "Do not be overcome with evil...but overcome evil with good (Romans 12:21)."

22 posted on 05/10/2012 11:31:01 AM PDT by NELSON111
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To: NELSON111

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2881934/posts?page=29#29


23 posted on 05/10/2012 11:34:29 AM PDT by mkjessup (Romney is to conservatism what Helen Thomas is to a high fashion model walkway.)
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To: Truthsearcher
Obama is a humanist Marxist progressive. He doesn’t believe in any God.

Exactly. He is not a Muslim. He is not a Christian. He is a Marxist...and thus willing to take on whatever persona he needs in order to achieve his objective.

Because of the community he comes from he needed a Christian persona. He is no different than many others...like Nancy Pelosi...or "insert name here." They might be Roman Catholic...go to mass and live (and vote) contrary to the RCC's teachings. They may be Baptists in Texas and live in sin...whether inner city black or small town white. They might be going to the NY synagogue.

They are ALL alike. They USE religion to please their constituents but they have NO convictions and do not fear God.

Our churches are FILLED with people who are like this. Businessmen. Local Leaders. ETC. They are in church for ONE reason: The community expects it (and maybe tradition)....but it certainly isn't conviction. Their LIVES do not show it.

24 posted on 05/10/2012 11:39:19 AM PDT by NELSON111
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To: mkjessup
Nice try. GOD get's to make that call. He is the one who will place that millstone. HE is the one who will cast him into the sea. Here are HIS instructions for YOU.

Romans 12:4; Matthew 5:44; Luke 6:35; 1 Corinthians 4:12, 13; 1 Peter 2:23, 3:9

Pretty clear - BLESS and CURSE NOT. LOVE your enemies.

Again...Jesus commands us to do these things...and the Holy Spirit commands us to do these things through Paul and Peter. But...you are certainly not going to be the last to rationalize your way around doing what God commands in His word. Matter of fact...that's what a whole group of homosexuals do in church every Sunday: Rationalize sin. Instead of reading God's word and saying "well...it says DO THIS and DON'T DO THIS" ...they make loopty loops with it.

Sorta like fornicators with their "But we're in love" arguement.

Take it up with God...

25 posted on 05/10/2012 11:49:35 AM PDT by NELSON111
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To: tobyhill
Obama Still Has Not Signed 'Nondiscrimination Executive Order'

For all Zero's campaign bluster and fund raising prowess, what he said yesterday about his evolution DOES NOTHING. Wake up America and turn off your "news" networks, so-called. The American sheeple being taken to another shearing.
26 posted on 05/10/2012 12:52:53 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: tobyhill
Could this be one of the events in
Yah'shua's prophesy in Matthew 24?
Mat 24:37 "For the coming of the Son of Man
will be just like the days of Noah.

Mat 24:38 "For as in those days before the flood
they were eating and drinking,
marrying and giving in marriage,
until the day that Noah entered the ark,

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

27 posted on 05/10/2012 1:21:07 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Truthsearcher

Obama is an enigma wrapped up in a political intent of international enablers. I believe his personal history together with his catering to Muslims internationally and here in the USA certainly gives the appearance of some kind of Muslim fellowship which belies any of his, e.g. Pastor Wright, Christian appearances. That Obama would try to impress on the USA populace that Muslims were very much a part of the developing USA is nonsense talk. The Tripoli encounter certainly cannot be construed as part of events showing Muslim influence in the USA. He might well be a Marxist, Progressive as well but I doubt very much he is a humanist.


28 posted on 05/10/2012 2:20:46 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: NELSON111
Take it up with God...

I do. Which is why I assign a single digit value to your pompous preaching.

Go find yourself a congregation this Sunday if you're compelled to climb up into a pulpit.
29 posted on 05/10/2012 3:08:03 PM PDT by mkjessup (Romney is to conservatism what Helen Thomas is to a high fashion model walkway.)
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To: noinfringers2

He no doubt has cultural ties to Islam. But he’s a Muslim in the same way Nancy Pelosi is a Catholic.

They both really only believe in their progressive cause and the only person they worship are themselves.


30 posted on 05/10/2012 3:37:21 PM PDT by Truthsearcher
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To: mkjessup
How about we let Jesus, Paul, James and Peter preach? I'll let you interpret.

Matthew 5:44 - "But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you..."

Luke 6:35 - "But love your enemies, and do good, and lend, expecting nothing in return, and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, for he is kind to the ungrateful and the evil."

Romans 12:14 - "Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse them."

1Peter 3:9 - "Do not repay evil for evil or reviling for reviling, but on the contrary, bless, for to this you were called, that you may obtain a blessing."

James 3:10 - "From the same mouth come blessing and cursing. My brothers, these things ought not to be so."

31 posted on 05/10/2012 6:20:25 PM PDT by NELSON111
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To: NELSON111

Well Reverend, in that case, why don’t you step right up and lead the congregation in praying for the Kenyan Usurper, ok?

I’m sure you won’t be at a loss for words.


32 posted on 05/10/2012 6:53:08 PM PDT by mkjessup (Romney is to conservatism what Helen Thomas is to a high fashion model walkway.)
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To: mkjessup
I do...and ALL true Christians know they are to pray for their leaders. You really think Obama is as bad as Nero? That's who was in power when Paul wrote to the Romans...and to Titus...and when Peter wrote to the 12 tribes of the dispersion. Yet here are their commands via the Holy Spirit (you really think you have it worse?)

Romans 13:2 Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment.

Titus 3:1 Remind them to be submissive to rulers and authorities, to be obedient, to be ready for every good work,

1Ti 2:1, 2 First of all, then, I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all people, for kings and all who are in high positions, that we may lead a peaceful and quiet life, godly and dignified in every way.

So...you suggested to pray...sarcastically...yet the scripture is very specific that this is what Christians should do. I think Hebrews 5: 11-14 fits this situation very well...for this is a very simple concept. It's called: Read the Bible...and do what it says. Not Read the Bible...pick and choose...then attack those who decide to follow all of scripture.

33 posted on 05/10/2012 7:55:03 PM PDT by NELSON111
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To: tobyhill

34 posted on 05/10/2012 10:49:48 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: tobyhill

Amen brother Franklin....amen sir

wicked wicked era we live in

and how quick it all collapsed


35 posted on 05/10/2012 11:01:05 PM PDT by wardaddy (I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
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To: tobyhill

Amen, brother Franklin, Amen.


36 posted on 05/10/2012 11:03:48 PM PDT by 1lawlady (To G-d be the glory. Great things He has done!)
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To: Admin Moderator; NELSON111

To: Mods
Re: Thread Category

It may not be Sunday, but looks like it’s time to move this thread to the Religion section.


37 posted on 05/11/2012 1:35:06 AM PDT by mkjessup (Romney is to conservatism what Helen Thomas is to a high fashion model walkway.)
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To: Blue Highway
He apologized when he said that islam was not a religion of Peace and the fed canceled a function that he has planned for the Pentagon... that was my reference.

LLS

38 posted on 05/11/2012 4:49:38 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: tobyhill

A Godly nation would not reelect this retard. Everyone says we are a Christian nation. Guess we’ll find out. People vote their beliefs. Maybe it will be time to leave here.


39 posted on 05/11/2012 5:20:55 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: crosshairs

Actually, God cares a lot for him and would like to see him change his mind and get to know Him.


40 posted on 05/11/2012 5:26:50 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: tobyhill; All
obozo has been shaking his hammer and sickle at God and the world for many years.

That our “media” covered for this POS and got him elected (and hope to again) is what disgusts me even more. Traitors all.

41 posted on 05/11/2012 8:35:19 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available 4 FREE at CpForLife.org)
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