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Lugar fallout: GOP senators fret about '14
Politico ^ | 5/9/12 | Manu Raju

Posted on 05/09/2012 2:44:42 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

There’s a new rule in American politics: Republican senators and Senate hopefuls who are too close to Washington and show streaks of moderation are toast — or most certainly poised for a grilling of their lifetime...

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The media and the RINOs say the Tea Party is dead, and then the Tea Party wins.

OTOH, I think sometimes we Tea Partiers despair too much when we don't win every battle. That is wrong, too.

Change takes time...incrementally is often the only way to reach the goal.

1 posted on 05/09/2012 2:44:48 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

You know - I never thought about it but you’re right! You can count on the media ignoring the obvious so that they can keep pretending to the public that the Tea Party is a “fringe group” - especially now that their “pet group” of Occupiers is being exposed as nothing more than lazy criminals and terrorists. Funny how the planned bridge explosion news died the same day it started when it was Occupier organizers who were involved. Had this been Tea Party organizers, we would STILL be reading about it every day and the Tea Party would be all but eliminated as a credible group.


2 posted on 05/09/2012 2:49:19 AM PDT by onevoter
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To: SoFloFreeper

All this fretting about the demise of the moderate republican amuses me. Please find me a moderate democrat. Please, anywhere. Find me a democrats who’s not a socialist.


3 posted on 05/09/2012 2:54:11 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (I like Obamacare because Granny signed the will and I need the cash)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Liberalism went down in flames on Tuesday. If Romney had any brains, he would take a hard turn to the Right during the campaign. (and afterwards!)

America doesn't want Liberals and it doesn't want squishy Moderates!

4 posted on 05/09/2012 2:54:46 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Greed + Envy = Liberalism)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Thad Cochran needs to retire


5 posted on 05/09/2012 2:59:29 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (If Romney needs my vote to win Mississippi, he is in a heck of a lot trouble more than me.)
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To: muir_redwoods

The last moderate Democrat was Tip O’Neil.


6 posted on 05/09/2012 3:15:01 AM PDT by Makana
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To: SoFloFreeper

Thank you for your thoughts. They give us hope.


7 posted on 05/09/2012 3:18:31 AM PDT by Lazamataz (To the wall, street occupiers!!!!!)
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To: Makana
The last moderate Democrat was Tip O’Neil.

I'm not so sure. I think he was a closet Marxist who managed to keep it hidden well.

8 posted on 05/09/2012 3:23:03 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: SoFloFreeper

The peons and peasants are gettin uppity...


9 posted on 05/09/2012 3:24:05 AM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
The fact that anyone would be able to be in office 40 years pisses me off.

Once enough Tea Party candidates win I hope a move is made for term limits.

10 posted on 05/09/2012 3:26:43 AM PDT by DainBramage
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To: SoFloFreeper

The tea party completely blew it and got hosed with the presidential primary by not selecting, backing and uniting behind a legitimately small-government (but not Ron Paul wacko) candidate after the 2010 victories.


11 posted on 05/09/2012 3:27:47 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: SoFloFreeper
Tea Party loses - major story.

Tea Party wins - back page.

12 posted on 05/09/2012 3:30:16 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: muir_redwoods

When you think about John F. Kennedy was a moderate Democrat, would be a conservative Republican by today’s standards.


13 posted on 05/09/2012 3:32:32 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Makana

The last moderate Democrat was Zel Miller.


14 posted on 05/09/2012 3:32:48 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: SoFloFreeper

Will some commies now cross the aisle to the conservative side, same as a looger did for commies.


15 posted on 05/09/2012 3:40:04 AM PDT by biggredd1
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To: Makana
Tip O'Neil was a welfare state, big regulatory government socialist and ass-kisser to the Soviets.

I fart in his general direction.

16 posted on 05/09/2012 3:42:43 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

scumbag johnny kerry [insider trader extraordinaire] po’d that looger lost, now it’s one less commie...
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/05/john-kerry-laments-dick-lugars-primary-loss/


17 posted on 05/09/2012 3:44:04 AM PDT by biggredd1
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To: Makana

Tip O’Neil? I remember him as a leftest House Speaker, who cooperated with Reagan only because Carter had almost ruined the country.


18 posted on 05/09/2012 3:44:51 AM PDT by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: SoFloFreeper
I think sometimes we Tea Partiers despair too much when we don't win every battle.

I agree. We don't need to adopt the dishonest tactics of the left, but we should emulate their doggedness in pursuing their goals.

19 posted on 05/09/2012 3:46:26 AM PDT by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: DainBramage

...”The fact that anyone would be able to be in office 40 years pisses me off”...

And that is the BIG problem. People in a bubble for that long loose comprehension of what our government is. They get busy feathering their own nest and do not give two hoots about the rest of us. They also become enamored with the D.C. culture which lives and breathes on tax payer money and big bucks from lobbyists. It sometimes feels like we are living under a big scam run by people who have never had a real job.


20 posted on 05/09/2012 3:46:32 AM PDT by jazzlite (esat)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I can tell you this. When either one of my Georgia Senators comes up for a primary, I will vote for the other contender if there is one. I cannot in good conscience vote for either of them again.


21 posted on 05/09/2012 3:47:45 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: SoFloFreeper

,” Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said, assessing Lugar’s problems.

“And own a house,” he added.

.....it won’t be enough for you Graham.


22 posted on 05/09/2012 3:48:22 AM PDT by Recon Dad (Gas & Petroleum Junkie)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Fox and Friends just finsihed with former NJ senator Tom Bradley, lamenting the ‘death of compromise’ and blaming the Tea party. These people make me ill.

Do they not remember what started this? President “We won, Eric”, Nancy Pelosi running her side roughshod over the opposition on that frikking healthcare bill and completely shutting Republicans out of any discussions, all while the so called ‘compromisers’ on our side were in a collective ‘oh dear’ sigh, lamenting the “tone” in Washington?

All the Tea Party did was run and elect candidates that will bring the fight right back to their doorstep with a loud and clear “NO MORE BUSINESS AS USUAL” The hell with the permanent political class.


23 posted on 05/09/2012 3:54:30 AM PDT by SueRae (The Tower of Sauron falls on 11.06.2012)
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To: Sybeck1
The traitor trent “I can be bought” lott now works for the UN as a lobbyist for the TREATY OF THE SEA... which he was against when he had to retain his corrupt office. Wicker is little better... Palazzo is gop/e... they co-opted him his first 2 minutes in DC.

LLS

24 posted on 05/09/2012 3:56:38 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Republican senators and Senate hopefuls who are too close to Washington and show streaks of moderation are toast — or most certainly poised for a grilling of their lifetime...

You guys are next!
25 posted on 05/09/2012 3:57:57 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: DainBramage

“Once enough Tea Party candidates win I hope a move is made for term limits. “

Absolutely correct!!, If we did not get term limits enacted we are doomed. A 30 year career in politics is NOT what the Founders intended.


26 posted on 05/09/2012 3:58:54 AM PDT by Shane (When Injustice Becomes Law, RESISTANCE Becomes DUTY.----T.Jefferson)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Goes to show that the TP movement is NOT DEAD.


27 posted on 05/09/2012 4:00:21 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Sybeck1

Unfortunately, Thad is a senator-for-life in the mode of James Eastland and John Stennis. The GOP in Mississippi is very conserative—heck, the few remaining conservative Democrats are in the Magnolia State, too.

But the Mississippi Republican Party is also clubby, with an established pecking order. I just don’t see anyone trying to push Thad aside, given his role as an elder statesman and one of the first Republicans elected to public office in the 20th Century.

If someone were smart, they’d fire Dan Jones, the idiot chancellor of the University of Mississippi and replace him with Thad. The job carries enough money and prestige to attract Mr Cochran’s interest; he has the Washington ties that colleges/universities value and he’d be a much better leader than Dan Jones.

As the GOP grows in MS, it is developing a deep and talented bench. But as long as Thad, Roger Wicker and others hang around, there’s no place for them to go.


28 posted on 05/09/2012 4:00:31 AM PDT by ExNewsExSpook (uoted)
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To: Shane

Once enough Tea Party candidates win I hope a move is made for term limits. “
Absolutely correct!!, If we did do not get term limits enacted we are doomed. A 30 year career in politics is NOT what the Founders intended.
CORECTION DO not DID


29 posted on 05/09/2012 4:02:56 AM PDT by Shane (When Injustice Becomes Law, RESISTANCE Becomes DUTY.----T.Jefferson)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Mark Twain once said that a lawyer is nothing more than a paid liar. Look at the vast majority of elected officials we have in office.-—nuff said.


30 posted on 05/09/2012 4:05:08 AM PDT by BTCM (Death and destruction is the only treaty Muslims comprehend.)
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To: muir_redwoods
Please find me a moderate democrat.

According to the MSM, all Democrat are moderate. You'll often hear of the "extreme right-wing" Republican, but you'll never hear or read of the "extreme left-wing" Democrat.

31 posted on 05/09/2012 4:05:47 AM PDT by whd23 (Every time a link is de-blogged an angel gets its wings.)
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To: Makana

It was Zell.


32 posted on 05/09/2012 4:07:41 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: SueRae

Come senators, congressmen
Please heed the call
Don’t stand in the doorway
Don’t block up the hall
For he that gets hurt
Will be he who has stalled
There’s a battle outside
And it is ragin’
It’ll soon shake your windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin’.


33 posted on 05/09/2012 4:09:03 AM PDT by maine yankee (I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
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To: abb

What about the Dem who wanted to shoot Chris Matthews. Forget his name.


34 posted on 05/09/2012 4:10:02 AM PDT by Safetgiver (The predator class is upset because they are being shot.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

My take on these matters is those elected officials who worship at the alter of compromise are more enamoured with the process than with the substantive issues. Large numbers of voters long for candidates who have well defined principles and are willing to take the heat for abiding by their principles. These feelings may not be explicitly articulated, but if you carefully listen to when the average person is given the opportunity to express his or her views it is clear they what principled leaders.


35 posted on 05/09/2012 4:10:02 AM PDT by monocle
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To: DainBramage

The fact that anyone would be able to be in office 40 years pisses me off...Just look at the three pictures in the article. Those old bastards should have been put out to pasture about three million dollars ago.


36 posted on 05/09/2012 4:12:20 AM PDT by Safetgiver (The predator class is upset because they are being shot.)
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To: 9YearLurker
The tea party completely blew it and got hosed with the presidential primary by not selecting, backing and uniting behind a legitimately small-government (but not Ron Paul wacko) candidate after the 2010 victories.

That would have been impossible because there is no such thing as "the TEA party".

There are TEA parties all over the USA , I think there are 40+ registered TEA parties and ten of thousands of divergent members with no real connections, other than a set of common ideas.

I go to TEA party rallies in WPA and we have no real national ties, which is why it is almost impossible for the lefty crazies to defeat us.

We have no single spokesman or leader. It's just us.

37 posted on 05/09/2012 4:12:25 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages, start today.)
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To: biggredd1

John Kerry Laments Dick....John Kerry Lame Dick. There, fixed it.


38 posted on 05/09/2012 4:16:45 AM PDT by Safetgiver (The predator class is upset because they are being shot.)
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To: 9YearLurker

No, the GOPe rigged it. Mittens never won the majority only the plurality of primary votes.


39 posted on 05/09/2012 4:24:34 AM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Throw the bums out who vote yes on the bailout)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Right you are! This mess didn’t happen overnight and it will take more than a few voting cycles to correct our course, but staying on course is a must. We are
not astroturf, but rather deep rooted in our thinking and stamina. The Tea Party is alive and well.


40 posted on 05/09/2012 4:26:44 AM PDT by marygam ((Hurry November 2012, we might not make it))
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To: SoFloFreeper
Real JOY here in Indiana, the numbers speak for themselves, not even close.....61% Mourdock and 39% Lugar.

I wanted to run down to the Church and ring the bell.

Let the fight begin here!

41 posted on 05/09/2012 4:34:56 AM PDT by Battle Axe (Repent, for the coming of the Lord is nigh.)
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To: 9YearLurker
The tea party completely blew it and got hosed with the presidential primary by not selecting, backing and uniting behind a legitimately small-government (but not Ron Paul wacko) candidate after the 2010 victories. There just wasn't anyone to get behind. The TP didn't blow anything. There just wasn't a viable alternative. Most of our best people are very new on the big stage...first term governors and senators. People can consider Palin as that person, but she would have faced a huge battle to win in the general. She could have done it, but she would have had to reverse public opinion...not easy to do. Other than Romney, the only viable options I can think of are Perry (who blew it), Daniels (who just doesn't have it), Jendal (who blew his opportunity with his terrible debut the 2009 GOP response), or DeMint (who didn't want it).
42 posted on 05/09/2012 4:36:48 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: BTCM

‘Nuff said indeed!

LLS


43 posted on 05/09/2012 4:38:29 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: SueRae

Fox and Friends just finsihed with former NJ senator Tom Bradley, lamenting the ‘death of compromise’ and blaming the Tea party.


My favorite word “compromise.”
You give a little and you win a little. They win a little and they lose a little. 1 - 1 = 0

Only problem is that true leaders don’t compromise. The equation then becomes you win and they lose.

Now, check out the records of those spineless Republicans running for office and you will find that compromise is the cereal they eat for breakfast. That’s why we find ourselves in the current shape we are now in.

Get them out.....NOW!


44 posted on 05/09/2012 4:43:50 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: 9YearLurker
The tea party completely blew it and got hosed with the presidential primary by not selecting, backing and uniting behind a legitimately small-government (but not Ron Paul wacko) candidate after the 2010 victories.

There just wasn't anyone to get behind. The TP didn't blow anything. There just wasn't a viable alternative. Most of our best people are very new on the big stage...first term governors and senators. People can consider Palin as that person, but she would have faced a huge battle to win in the general. She could have done it, but she would have had to reverse public opinion...not easy to do. Other than Romney, the only viable options I can think of are Perry (who blew it), Daniels (who just doesn't have it), Jendal (who blew his opportunity with his terrible debut the 2009 GOP response), or DeMint (who didn't want it).

45 posted on 05/09/2012 4:44:51 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: LibLieSlayer

You have ruined my day by mentioning Trent Lott. I have lived a peaceful and satisfying life over the past years since he was out of office and I didn’t hear his name for years.

But now............I hear it again and my hate index went up 10 points on a scale of 1 to 10 for any and all Republicans who worked with and supported that scumbag.

He is the “bastard” that exemplifies all that is wrong with the Republican party.


46 posted on 05/09/2012 4:48:45 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: SoFloFreeper

“”Lugar fallout: GOP senators fret about ‘14””

GOOD. Maybe they will finally understand that We Mean Business.

May God guide our course.
Tatt


47 posted on 05/09/2012 4:51:00 AM PDT by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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To: Cowboy Bob

Yeah, but all the early RINO $$$$$$$$$ goe$ to the mo$t liberal RINO running-—like alway$.

La$t time, RINORomney and RINOJohn got together to whip$aw any $hred of con$ervati$m out of the $election proce$$.

Now it’$ ju$t $qui$hey RINORomney. Rot$a Ruck.


48 posted on 05/09/2012 4:58:53 AM PDT by Flintlock (THE TRUTH: It's the new hate speech..)
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To: abb

Tip O’Neil was a smart politician who did not let the perfect stand in the way of the good. He was smart enough to take what he could get, knowing he would be able to get more later. That kind of “incremental” Liberalism is what has led us to the disastrous situation we find ourselves in today. Lucky for us Harry Reid is too stupid to take what he can get from the mushy moderates in the GOP.


49 posted on 05/09/2012 5:00:33 AM PDT by csmusaret (Obama's new slogan: "Fo Mo Mo Fo.")
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To: SueRae

-—The hell with the permanent political class.——

Yeah!


50 posted on 05/09/2012 5:18:54 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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