Skip to comments.Santorum endorses one-time rival Romney
Posted on 05/07/2012 8:41:01 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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The Articles of Faith
of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
- We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.
- We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam's transgression.
- We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.
- We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.
- We believe that a man must be called of God, by prophecy, and by the laying on of hands by those who are in authority, to preach the Gospel and administer in the ordinances thereof.
- We believe in the same organization that existed in the Primitive Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and so forth.
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- We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.
- We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God.
We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory.
- We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may
- We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.
- We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of PaulWe believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things.
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Since the above was written by ONE man, one or two hundred years ago; your church REALLY needs to update #8; as there are MANY other things that it ‘considers’ to be the Word of GOD; right?
You sure had better hope so!!
"Now if any of you will deny the plurality of wives, and continue to do so, I promise that you will be damned;
and I will go still further and say, take this revelation, or any other revelation that the Lord has given,
and deny it in your feelings, and I promise that you will be damned.
Brigham Young - JoD 3:266 (July 14, 1855)
It's too bad Sandy is gone. She would just LOVE the 'it mattereth not' part!
One CANNOT fight emotionalism with logic.
For MORMONs; a 'burning busom' trumps EVERYTHING.
"I got an answer!" is the answer for everything.
And then the doubts start coming.
Except for all the artifacts they have dug up at hill Cumorah.
They are keeping those tucked away in a vault under Temple Square®.
For me the analogy when I heard of Santorum's endorsement was the Star Trek TNG episode where all of the adults start playing the addicting, brainwashing video game; and it is only Wesley and his young friend who are left sane enough to save the Enterprise. Santorum kept telling us he was going to start playing the ORomney game. I just thought he would at least wait until after the convention, since there still is a viable candidate in the race (Ron Paul). Guess he didn't mean it when he said that Romney was the "worst" Republican in the country to put up against BHO.
You can bet that Obama is not ignoring the Mormom elephant in the room. I am sure that he already has his handpicked minions set up to destroy Mitt because of his Mormonism. They will be far enough removed from BHO for BHO to deny all knowledge, but prominent enough to influence the masses about the “Evil Cult” of Mormonism. BHO just can’t wait until the GOP is stupid enough to sew this one up so he can start the attack. Can’t do it too early, or the people might wake up to the lion’s den they are entering.
You play the game well, Elsie. After I claim you have the last word, you issue a vile, deceitful personal attack and then sit at home and laugh because you know you have forced me to respond.
You're a master at the game of deceit and manipulation, but here is my response to all your nasty attacks and shameless manipulation and intimidation. After two days of staying away from this thread and waiting for someone in authority to acknowledge your blatant rule breaking and step in, I wrote this as my final post to you........
Last post to rule breaking, spam monkey, Elsie......
Hey there, Elsie I thought I should post one final time to you, before I put you on permanent ignore status. In the absence of restraint from any Mod, or JimRob, Im assuming that they are giving you free rein as a spam monkey, and FR rulebreaker, and that reporting you will accomplish nothing, and expecting any Mod to control your spamming will not happen.
Im convinced now that, if Tony Snow were still alive and a freeper, you and your spam monkey brigade would accost him, or even the most brilliant conservative thinker in the country, and deny anyone in your path the freedom to speak.
So be it.
I would be remiss, however, in my last post to you, to not let you know that, of all the nasty freepers I have encountered over the years here, your behavior is among the least Christian of any of them, and since I have been commanded to love you and pray for you, I will truly pray for your salvation as an unrepentant sinner (at least publicly, not knowing your heart, but only seeing your hostile words), and leave you with the following verses (not copied and pasted for spamming purposes, as you are wont to do, but typed with my own hand from memory).
I was raised in a solid Christian home, and accepted Christ as my Lord and Savior at the age of 7, understanding even at a young age that I was a sinner, and have sought to walk with Him in the 55 years since, so these verses are committed to memory ..
I John 1: 9 If we confess our sin, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sin, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness
Romans 3: 23 For all have sinned and come short of the Glory of God.
Romans 6: 23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ, our Lord.
John 3: 16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him shall never die.
And finally Exodus 20:16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor (or fellow freeper)
I urge you to take those words seriously, so that God might replace your heart of stone with a heart of flesh. (Ezekial 11:19)
I fully expect you, as a spam monkey, to respond with multiple posts, but this is my final post to you, my testimony in Christ, and my vow to keep you in my prayers.
May God have mercy on you.
No disagreement there whatsoever.
It's the outright lying, spamming and harrassing that are the problem.
It prevents any actual 'discussion' from taking place.
I believe that's the goal. To shut down and intimidate legitimate discussion.
And it has worked......hasn't it?
Consider your food supply cut off.
No need to cry. You can always get food stamps from this wonderful Obama Communist Government.......right??? :)
Thank you again for validating to everyone who you really are.
Good bye, svcw. (No more crying now, OK?)
Thanks again .....
You all know my devotion to prophecy. A message to Glynda
Lomax, a NON-CATHOLIC Christian seer. It’s dire. Everyone
pray, the two choices for President, BHO and Romney are not of God.
Stop and say an Our Father or pray a personal prayer.
~ ~ ~
May 10, 2012
Oh America, America, why do you fight for what is wrong and abandon those who speak what is right? So shall you be left desolate in the day of your judgments.
You claim to know what is right, yet you do what is wrong in the darkness of your chambers. In your heart is only blackness and no mercy shall be shown you in that day.
I shall bring another, great and mighty, to tear you to pieces. It shall crush you under its feet and trample your beauty, and you shall be no more.
You refuse to show mercy and so shall you be refused mercy in your time of destruction.
Woe to you who call evil good and good evil, and who seek your own glory at the price of others’ heads. So shall your own head have a price among the nations and you shall be hunted and destroyed.
Prepare, My people, for the end of America looms near.
I'm always happy to be recognized as a solid, good-humored conservative who is recognized for being unafraid to stand up against dishonesty and liberalism wherever it occurs.
Happy to oblige here on this thread. :)
See you around.
You are? LAST
Yup; you're just my little puppet; forced to dance to the tune I am playing.
Shout a little louder! Perhaps he is sleeping, or maybe pursuing...
Just WHERE have I heard of THAT before??
Your mindreading ability was somehow diminished before?
Keep it up and you’ll be taunted some more!
“The discussion is most certainly fine.
No disagreement there whatsoever.
It’s the outright lying, spamming and harrassing that are the problem”....
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We don’t agree on voting for Romney, I wish I could change
your mind. The man is a pro-abort and today we find out
Romney is bully, it all fits. He needs God’s grace.
If there could only be another choice. I cannot vote for a pro-abort.
Unfortunately, some of the longer time freepers are not as courteous as you are, and make rational discussion impossible with their bullying, and shutting down honest discussions.
I am strongly pro-life, and that is one of the main reasons I believe we MUST get rid of Obama.
If he stays in office, ruling with despotic dictates, babies unborn and born are at great risk. Romney is deeply flawed, but the idea that he is as bad as Obama absolutely absurd. And unfortunately, he is the only viable candidate running against Obama, and a vote for anyone else is condoning another four years of hardcore baby-killing amoral, atheistic Marxism. I can't do that, and watch the country I love go down the sewer into oblivion.
Wish I could stay and talk with you, but this thread is too tainted.
Again, I'm sorry to jump on you like I did. You don't seem in any way, shape or form like a troll.
Just a newbie. :)
From a long-time Freeper; do you have anything to say to Catherine?
Not reading.......just counting.
“I am strongly pro-life, and that is one of the main reasons I believe we MUST get rid of Obama.
If he stays in office, ruling with despotic dictates, babies unborn and born are at great risk.”...
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I appreciate your reply.
It’s nothing personal, good. Still, people at FR should continue to proclaim there is no difference between the two...Mitt and BHO. It is sickening that Romney believes everyone is going to fall for his flip flopping “words” and ignore his record.
He signed it, Romneycare contains abortion legislation.
To win election in Massachusetts, Jesus mercy, Romney followed through, he tells everyone in the Youtube he is for abortion!
Read the private revelation, like God doesn’t know someone’s true beliefs...
No one argues because of his “actions” whether Obama is Christian. SHOUT IT out, neither is Romney. “Do not choose evil men to run your country!!!”
resend of an older message:
2007 Message to Louise Tomkiel warning
Message to Louise August 13, 2008
AUGUST 13, 2008- - -3:10 a.m.
L. began to receive a message from God and said, “Jesus,
please cover me with your Most Precious Blood.”
Then your God spoke, “CHILDREN, LISTEN TO ME!!!!
Select your candidate in much prayer for if you put a
certain party up for election for your next president
you will have a religious war and Martial Law. This
person claims to have faith in the ‘one true church’
which, I tell you, is a false cult founded on lies by a
very sick man.
My Church and all Christians will be sought out and
punished unto death! DO NOT CHOOSE EVIL MEN TO
RULE YOUR COUNTRY!!!
Michael and his Legions of Warrior Angels will assist
My own although many will die for your faith. Remain
faithful to the end My dear ones for Heaven eternal
Live in Truth. Live Love. Forgive all. Pray. I WILL give
you abundant strength. This will be the devil’s great
hour. Fear not but live on in My Great Love. My
blessings to you all! Amen.”
NOTE: Candidate’s initial - - -M.R.
[The only candidate in the last election and in this one with these initials is Mitt Romney. He is a Mormon which was recently described as a cult.]
p.s. I just heard on the news, one minute ago, Romney is speaking at a Evangelical commencement tomorrow and will NOT speak about Mormonism.
The “gall” of the man, hiding in plain sight.
“The Articles of Faith
of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
1. We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.”
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
Mormons do not believe in the Trinity, three divine persons in one God.
The Nicene Creed
I believe in one God, the Father Almighty,
maker of Heaven and earth and of all things
visible and invisible. And in one Lord Jesus
Christ, the only begotten Son of God, begotten
of his Father before all ages, God of God,
Light of Light, true God of true God, begotten,
not made, consubstantial with the
Father, by Whom all things were made; Who
for us men and for our salvation, came down
from Heaven, and was Incarnate by the Holy
Spirit of the Virgin Mary and was made Man;
He was crucified also for us under Pontius
Pilate, and was buried. And the
third day He rose again according to the
Scriptures, and ascended into Heaven. He
sitteth at the right hand of the Father: and He shall
come again with glory to judge the living
and the dead: and His kingdom shall have no end.
And in the Holy Ghost, the Lord and
Giver of life, Who proceedeth from the Father and
the Son, Who, together with the Father and the Son,
is adored and glorified:...
Anyone 'proclaiming' that, is not telling the truth.
I'll go back to your first proclamation here........that at least Obama was "upfront." Another blatant falsehood.
You may not be a leftist troll, but you're absolutely, unequivocally wrong, and obviously ignorant of who Obama really is.
At any rate, it gets tiring arguing on FR that Obama is evil on a once conservative forum.....on a forum that was once a pioneer and the premier conservative forum on the Internet. (You should have been around when there were rules enforced, spamming, vile language, personal attacks unallowed, and intelligent discussion flowed. It was a fine place, once).
FR will be doomed to the dustbin of the irrelevant if it finally decides to vote "PRESENT" in the most critical election in the history of this great Republic, thus promoting its destruction.
I won't be doing it. And I'm sorry that you and a handful of others will.
End of all discussion on this thread. Thanks, at least for being polite........unlike the venomous, unChristian FR Spam Monkey Brigade.......albeit still being completely wrong.
I wish those who support Romney would defend rather than going wiggy against those who dont. People who view Romney and BHA as the same say why, give reasons why, they make it clear. Those who support Romney just tell us we who oppose him becauae we are leftist trolls, obamacomies, liars, stupid, in/anti Christian and a whole varitiales of other names and phrases.
Just saying Romney is not BHO is not reasoned support.
There is very little difference between Romney and Obama’s actual records. Both supported abortion, gay rights, gun control, liberal judges, global warming, compulsory health insurance, individual mandates, government control over the economy, etc, in other words liberal progressive policies. And they both loathed Reagan, conservatism and the tea party.
Romney now swears he’s a Reagan conservative. He also claims that his brand of government controlled, government forced, mandated compulsory health insurance is a “free-market conservative solution.” He also still says that even if president, he would do nothing about gays in the military. You can bet that means he will do nothing to thwart the advancing gay agenda. He also still says today that man-made global warming is real and that government will eventually have to do something about it. There goes our free-economy. He also says that TARP, the bailouts, the stimulus spending, etc, were all good ideas and that more may be necessary. So he truly does believe that government control of the economy, picking winners and losers, etc, is a good thing. Crony capitalism. He never even mentions the constitution which doesn’t give the federal government the authority to do any of the above. Wonder why.
No Reaganite here, so guess that’s just another lie too.
And they now call me a troll too for simply stating the truth.
“I’ll go back to your first proclamation here........that at least Obama was “upfront.” Another blatant falsehood.”
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Three times now you misconstrue what I stated. Has Obama said he is for sodomite marriage? Yes. Has Romney said I support gays in the military and homosexual adoption while I reject sodomite marriage? No. Has Obama made it clear he is for a woman’s right to choose abortion and an abortifacient, free contraception for everyone? Yes.
No reply again, what of your silence about the videos of Romney in his own words supporting abortion in 2002 and other times, people have kept track of his flip flop on morality. Is Romney “upfront” today on what he did
in Massachusetts? No. He’s pretending he is for life.
Are you going to acknowledge there is abortion coverage in
Romneycare? I care, you can’t vote for a pro-abort, it is a grave sin on your soul~@!!
I would post the two little cartoon hugging figures if I could...
“And they now call me a troll too for simply stating the truth.”
You state the Truth very well and why is a person called a “troll” if you disagree? This is a discussion forum.
It’s Romney’s lying, he doesn’t even care.
“I wish those who SUPPORT Romney would DEFEND rather than going wiggy against those who dont.”
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I added the CAPS.
Okay, I can understand, not everyone believes the prophetic.
But, I have posted several times the Romney in his own words
Youtubes supporting abortion. No one says a word!
Did you know, the author, whoever, has removed a couple of them recently from Youtube.com.
S you are correct. Keep up the good work.
Here’s a link to a video of Romney’s Commencement speech
at Liberty University yesterday. The website is pro-Romney.
I an reminded of...
An ex-Mormon trying to help his wife leave Mormonism, he suggests to her, go to the temple today, notice how many times they speak of Jesus.
In his speech to Liberty graduates, Romney said Christian and God often. He said “the Lord” once and “Jesus” one time.
I listened to a fifteen minute Easter message and it wasn’t until minute eight the name of Jesus was mentioned and only once.
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