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To: ngat
... to merit a response in detail.

You seemed to be able to put together some sort of response, it would have been nice if you could have explained what specific items in my post you disagreed with.

slavish devosion to the arcana of party rules

I happen to like the idea of not stealing people's votes. So when a state holds a primary, and people show up and cast votes for the candidate they want, I would not consider it "arcana" that the delegates sent to the national convention would vote for the candidate picked in the primary. I'm sorry that you, as a conservative, see that principle so negatively that you call it "slavish devotion", but yes, I am slavishly devoted to the idea that my vote matters, and that a political candidate shouldn't use backroom manuevering to negate my vote.

groundless assertions

My comments on delegate selection are based on reading party documents from several states, and I believe it to be accurate. My comments about goings-on in Iowa and elsewhere are from news reports posted in freeper threads, and the ongoing discussion, and I believe them to be accurate but am willing to entertain the notion that the reports are incorrect, if you have any evidence to the contrary. But without some information from you about which things I said you believe are groundless, I can't really provide you links showing my evidence.

Name-calling

I apologize for calling Ron Paul supporters "nuts" when it comes to foreign policy. There are people who support Ron Paul who have dangerous notions about our position in the world, and he draws support from a crowd that includes poeple considerably more anti-military than he is (I wouldn't call him anti-military, but peaceniks are a regular feature among the crowds of Ron Paul supporters). But I shouldn't have labelled them "nuts", because name-calling isn't helpful.

37 posted on 05/07/2012 9:20:36 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

What point contained in my intentionally brief post on the specific subject matter being discussed on this thread did you not understand?

I guess you just can’t face the reality that people in the party really do understand that it’s just other interested people, vested interests, who have been writing and interpreting the rules and have their thumb on the scale, and they are not going to put up with it any longer.

Your sort-of apology about the name calling intentionally misses the point. Your entire post was loaded with name-calling that went far beyond what you admit “wasn’t helpful”. In fact, your multiple name-calling and baseless attacks are designed to marginalize and run off people participants in the convention system, and deny them a voice.

If you can accomplish that with your tactics, you then will not have to sit down and discuss the issues, and your own “backroom manuevering” can proceed unchallenged.

What has worked for the insiders for a long time is breaking down.


39 posted on 05/07/2012 10:22:25 AM PDT by ngat
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To: CharlesWayneCT
I think there's only one rule the Republican party could implement to stop Ron Paul from disrupting the proceedings.

See The Simpsons Stonecutters episode, where the Stonecutters changed their name to The Ancient Mystic Society of No Homers to keep Homer Simpson out.

Do I hear the "Republican National No-Ron-Pauls Convention?"


61 posted on 05/08/2012 1:37:51 PM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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