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Jim Jonesí Sinister Grip on San Francisco (Peoples Temple Cult Leader Ensnared Harvey Milk, Dems)
Salon.com ^ | Tuesday, May 1, 2012 | David Talbot

Posted on 05/06/2012 1:34:50 PM PDT by DogByte6RER

Jim Jones’ sinister grip on San Francisco

How the Peoples Temple cult leader ensnared Harvey Milk and other progressive icons

pervert Harvey Milk w/ Death Cultist Jim Jones

“Season of the Witch,” the new book by Salon founder David Talbot, tells the story of the wild and bloody birth of “San Francisco values.” The following excerpt – Part 1 in a three-part series -- recounts one of the darker dramas before the ultimate triumph of those values.

Jim Jones, the strange and charismatic leader of Peoples Temple, proved a master at politically wiring San Francisco in the mid-1970s. The driven preacher had begun his climb up the political pyramid by planting roots in the Fillmore district, the city’s devastated black neighborhood. Jones moved into the Fillmore at its most vulnerable moment. Urban renewal czar Justin Herman – the Robert Moses of San Francisco — had “literally destroyed the neighborhood,” observed community activist Hannibal Williams, “[and] people were desperate for solutions, something to follow. Jim Jones was another solution. He had a charismatic personality that won the hearts and souls of people. And people followed him to hell. That’s where Jim Jones went. That’s where he took the people who followed him.”

Jones’s flock, ignored and scorned by society, was electrified by the preacher’s vision of a new Eden. Everybody was exalted in his services, even the lowliest recovering drunks and addicts. “He made us feel special, like something bigger than ourselves,” said one temple member. “Total equality, no rich or poor, no races,” said another. “We were alive in those services,” testified one more. “They had life, soul power.”

Jones — an oddball and renegade his entire life, someone who never felt at home in his own skin —

(Excerpt) Read more at salon.com ...


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The article further details how Jim Jones cultivated political alliances and close ties with then S.F. Mayor George Moscone, Supervisor Harvey Milk, then Assemblyman Willie Brown, then Supervisor Dianne Feinstein, then Governor Jerry Brown, and even the 1976 Jimmy Carter/Walter Mondale campaign ... "the wild and bloody birth of San Francisco values" indeed; murderous marxist social utopianism in motion towards mass suicide and murder.
1 posted on 05/06/2012 1:35:00 PM PDT by DogByte6RER
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Part II - Peoples Temple’s inside man

When investigators began uncovering Jim Jones’ sordid web of violence and corruption, he was one step ahead of them

http://www.salon.com/2012/05/02/peoples_temples_inside_man/

Part III - A heaven made in hell

Even as he slid deep into madness in his jungle “paradise,” Jim Jones found support in high places in San Francisco

http://www.salon.com/2012/05/03/a_heaven_made_in_hell/singleton/


2 posted on 05/06/2012 1:36:37 PM PDT by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: DogByte6RER

Jones was a full on progressive, social justice, collective salvation type.

When I think of demonic possession, I don’t think of the head spinning around crap. I think of Jones, Hitler, Stalin, Manson, and Alinski.


3 posted on 05/06/2012 1:41:48 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: DogByte6RER

Wow, I had no idea


4 posted on 05/06/2012 1:42:09 PM PDT by vanilla swirl (searching for something meaningfull to say)
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To: DogByte6RER

I can’t recall if Jimmy Carter ever attended the peoples temple but am sure Rosalyn did.

I remember them praising Jim Jones to high heaven. When I read that he would throw a Bible on the floor and stomp on it, I knew what he really was.


5 posted on 05/06/2012 1:51:19 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: DogByte6RER

6 posted on 05/06/2012 1:53:24 PM PDT by Prospero
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To: DogByte6RER
My old Man spent a lot of time in SF in the late ‘30’s, we had a lot of family who settled there in the 1849-50 time frame. He said it was a very strange place even then.
7 posted on 05/06/2012 1:54:49 PM PDT by Little Bill (Sorry)
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To: DogByte6RER

http://jonestown.sdsu.edu/AboutJonestown/Tapes/Tapes/TapeSummaries/799.html

Rosalyn Carter tape found at Jonestown


8 posted on 05/06/2012 1:58:24 PM PDT by Sybeck1 (If Romney needs my vote to win Mississippi, he is in a heck of a lot trouble more than me.)
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To: DogByte6RER
David Talbot is wrong on several points,

1) It was much worse, much more evil, and much more premeditated than he suggests.

2) No one was "ensnared", San Fransicko progressives all had the same morals, ethics and agenda as Jones, they all eagerly made the standard deal with Satan.

3) San Franciscans got what they deserved and have degenerated consistently continuing through today.

9 posted on 05/06/2012 1:59:09 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it and the law is what WE say it is.)
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To: DogByte6RER
He was an avowed communist.

All evil men are.

10 posted on 05/06/2012 2:02:21 PM PDT by Lazamataz (To the wall, street occupiers!!!!!)
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To: DogByte6RER
“San Francisco values.”

There's a contradiction in terms ...

11 posted on 05/06/2012 2:26:51 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: Lazamataz
"He was an avowed communist."

And even a party member!

Thus the need for this typical leftist cover-up and misdirection. In approximately 2,500 words, this article/excerpt so carefully omits that one word that explains all the excesses and the ultimate fate of Jim Jones, his Jonestown and all his true believer.

Because that one word - "Communist" - is not only at the root of who Jim Jones was but also what his "Temple" was about and even more importantly why his "useful idiot" allies on the Left were bound at the hip to that madman then and must cover-up the truth today .

12 posted on 05/06/2012 2:33:19 PM PDT by drpix
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To: DogByte6RER

Milk knew how dangerous Jones was, but did anything he could to get elected. There’s even a handwritten note from him telling Jones his name was “cut in stone” in support of the Temple

http://maroonedinmarin.blogspot.com/2009/02/liberal-hollywood-gives-milk-oscar-for.html


13 posted on 05/06/2012 2:40:27 PM PDT by stratman1969 (Anyone but Obama, Romney or Paul in 2012)
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To: vanilla swirl

“Wow, I had no idea”

Me neither. Is that Harvey Milk pictured on the right and Jones on the left?

If that’s Milk he really does look like Sean Penn in the picture.

I do sort of remember that Jones had some prominence, or had had some, when that mass suicide/murder occured.

Maybe that really marked the end of the wild & crazy 60s in a way.

So much crazy stuff was going on back in those days.


14 posted on 05/06/2012 2:59:25 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: DogByte6RER

I remember it well, was working in the Fillmore when Jonestown went down, went through People’s Temple when they auctioned all their stuff off.


15 posted on 05/06/2012 3:04:43 PM PDT by Argus
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To: Lazamataz

Jones was also heavy into Black Liberation Theology, same as Jeremiah Wright.


16 posted on 05/06/2012 3:07:56 PM PDT by Argus
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To: DogByte6RER

Jones’ last speech is today’s Democratic standard speech on race and immigration.


17 posted on 05/06/2012 3:13:54 PM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: DogByte6RER

Jones didn’t just plant his roots in the Filmore; he also planted some on the east side of the bay in Lafayette, and south in Santa Cruz, in both cases in the Disciples of Christ churches, populated with lazy liberal looney school teachers and pro communist agitators.

Many in both towns still think Jones got a bad rap.


18 posted on 05/06/2012 3:37:05 PM PDT by editor-surveyor
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To: Navy Patriot

I was thinking much the same thing; I’m glad you wrote that.

Jim Jones didn’t birth “San Francisco values”. He just took advantage of them. But then, that’s what they’re for; to siphhon money and power from fools to the “elites”.


19 posted on 05/06/2012 3:45:13 PM PDT by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man. Never trust anyone who hasn't been punched in the face)
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To: DogByte6RER

I understand that San Diego State University has a Jim Jones sycophant on the payroll.


20 posted on 05/06/2012 3:54:38 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: cripplecreek

From what I’ve read, Alinsky was a similar malcontent.


21 posted on 05/06/2012 4:00:40 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The President who ate the dog, will soon wag the dog.)
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To: cripplecreek

From what I’ve read, Alinsky was a similar malcontent.


22 posted on 05/06/2012 4:01:07 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The President who ate the dog, will soon wag the dog.)
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To: Sybeck1

So, Jim Jones was a democrat, and the present democrats would have us drink the koolaid, right?


23 posted on 05/06/2012 4:09:51 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The President who ate the dog, will soon wag the dog.)
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24 posted on 05/06/2012 4:50:04 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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bttt


25 posted on 05/06/2012 4:53:10 PM PDT by Matchett-PI ("Andrew loved the battle and he knew the stakes." ~ Mark Levin 3/2/12)
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To: DogByte6RER

Also, Jane Fonda supported him Jim Jones.


27 posted on 05/06/2012 4:58:49 PM PDT by apocalypto
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To: DogByte6RER

Our favorite fellow traveler critical race theorist Soledad O'Brien has done a story on them. I haven't seen it, but I would guess she doesn't go into too much details about the democrat connections.

28 posted on 05/06/2012 5:11:43 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: chesley
to siphon money and power from fools to the “elites”.

That's exactly what Jones and San Francisco liberal progressives did best and planned from the start.

Additionally, much of it was taxpayers money in the form of welfare checks that went to Jones to finance his political and personal empire.

That's why the useful idiots were moved to Guyana and held prisoner so they couldn't quit and take their checks with 'em.

It was worse than Stalin's Soviet union or Mao's Cultural Revolution.

29 posted on 05/06/2012 5:40:07 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it and the law is what WE say it is.)
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To: GeronL

Yep. Rebecca Moore. Her sister was one of Jones’ mistresses and sired one of his children. Their father, a retired Methodist minister and the whole Moore family are apologists for the Temple, even have tried to get Jim Jones name on a memorial wall at Evergreen Cemetery in Oakland.


30 posted on 05/06/2012 6:08:05 PM PDT by stratman1969 (Anyone but Obama, Romney or Paul in 2012)
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To: GeronL

Correction, Jones’ name is on the Memorial at the Oakland Cemetery

http://www.ccgm.org.au/index.php?g=articles&a=0163&newarticle

http://www.rickross.com/reference/jonestown/jonestown82.html


31 posted on 05/06/2012 6:16:42 PM PDT by stratman1969 (Anyone but Obama, Romney or Paul in 2012)
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To: All

If you guys haven’t seen Powers Boothe as Jim Jones in ‘Guyana Tragedy’ you really should. I highly recommend it. He was amazing and deserved that Emmy.


32 posted on 05/06/2012 6:23:12 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (I love you so much,Pumpkin. You're the best cat in the world.)
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To: yarddog

Hw actually stomped on it?


33 posted on 05/06/2012 6:24:15 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (I love you so much,Pumpkin. You're the best cat in the world.)
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To: stratman1969
of all 918 people who died in the Jonestown tragedy in the jungles of Guyana on Nov. 18, 1978, believed to be the largest mass suicide in history.

Mass suicide/mass murder would be more accurate.

34 posted on 05/06/2012 6:26:35 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The President who ate the dog, will soon wag the dog.)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Those bodies had been there for days. Can you imagine the stench?


35 posted on 05/06/2012 6:26:49 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (I love you so much,Pumpkin. You're the best cat in the world.)
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To: apocalypto

Oh,my G-d!


36 posted on 05/06/2012 6:28:26 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (I love you so much,Pumpkin. You're the best cat in the world.)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

That’s “he”,not “hw”.

Whoops!


37 posted on 05/06/2012 6:29:43 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (I love you so much,Pumpkin. You're the best cat in the world.)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

That’s “he”,not “hw”.

Whoops!


38 posted on 05/06/2012 6:30:28 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (I love you so much,Pumpkin. You're the best cat in the world.)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

There are a few closer pictures I saw before I posted that reveal how bloated the bodies are.


39 posted on 05/06/2012 6:31:28 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

I have actually seen a video of Jones stomping on a Bible.

Since the video would probably have been approved by Jones, he clearly wanted it shown.


40 posted on 05/06/2012 6:50:30 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: Vince Ferrer

*Shudder*.That’s really gross.


41 posted on 05/06/2012 7:21:14 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (I love you so much,Pumpkin. You're the best cat in the world.)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Curiosity got the better of me and I looked up Jim Jones on Getty Images.

The rotting body of Jim Jones was the worst. Ugh.

I was watching a documentary on it a while back and the people who flew over could actually smell the decaying bodies from the plane.


42 posted on 05/06/2012 7:30:17 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (I love you so much,Pumpkin. You're the best cat in the world.)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

Did he get an Emmy for that? I hope so. It is truly an incredible production, and Powers Boothe is beyond great in it. It’s also very accurate as to the reality of what went down. No need to dramatize much — it was already pretty dramatic in real-time story. I remember well when it happened, and I’ve gone back and re-researched the articles of the day in library files. The movie Guyana Story pretty much nails it. And it’s pretty clear, if I remember correctly, that Jones’ political connectons were Democrats and liberals.


43 posted on 05/06/2012 7:31:56 PM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent * By the way, Ted, voting for Romney is voting stupid.)
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To: yarddog
I cannot believe how sick and depraved he was.

You have to watch out for charismatic people;they can be evil and manipulative.

44 posted on 05/06/2012 7:32:57 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (I love you so much,Pumpkin. You're the best cat in the world.)
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To: Lazamataz

He was an atheist, who cynically realized that he could cloak his Marxism under the guise of religion.


45 posted on 05/06/2012 7:37:21 PM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: Finny

Yeah,he got the Emmy Award.

It’s pretty good for a TV movie.

I have it on DVD.


46 posted on 05/06/2012 7:39:11 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (I love you so much,Pumpkin. You're the best cat in the world.)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

He was so good, that to this day whenever I see him in a movie, I still see him as Jim Jones.


47 posted on 05/06/2012 7:39:51 PM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: Lazamataz

He was also an atheist.

So there goes the theory that religion is responsible for the world’s evils.


48 posted on 05/06/2012 7:42:02 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (I love you so much,Pumpkin. You're the best cat in the world.)
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To: dfwgator

So do I,even though I’ve had a crush on him for a while now. :)


49 posted on 05/06/2012 7:44:41 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (I love you so much,Pumpkin. You're the best cat in the world.)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

I personally believe Obama, Holder and especially Sebelius are as bad or worse than Jones.

Something extremely odd to me about Jonestown is that it was in Guyana. I had a professor who had served with Army intelligence in Guyana when it was just gaining it’s freedom from Britain.

The Blacks in Guyana were led by communists while the less numerous East Indians were more pro British. According to this professor, and I believed him (and had a reason to) there were demons in Guyana which made themselves known to the British Soldiers with which he served.

I believe Guyana was particularly used by Satan. That is why I think Jones went there.


50 posted on 05/06/2012 7:45:04 PM PDT by yarddog
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