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To: madprof98

“No way this granddad is going to stand up for traditional family values. Not gonna happen.”

Are you saying that because Mitt Romney’s son had children via surrogate, MR will not stand for traditional values? What does using a surrogate cause someone to not have traditional family values??

MR doesn’t have traditional family values, but that has NOTHING to do with his son using a surrogate.


3 posted on 05/04/2012 2:11:36 PM PDT by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: Reddy
MR doesn’t have traditional family values, but that has NOTHING to do with his son using a surrogate.

some consider the idea a bit non-traditional.

5 posted on 05/04/2012 2:14:04 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: Reddy
MR doesn’t have traditional family values, but that has NOTHING to do with his son using a surrogate.

Unless surrogate is code for sister wife.

11 posted on 05/04/2012 2:21:10 PM PDT by itsahoot (I will not vote for Romney period, and by election day you won't like him either.)
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To: Reddy

I think John and Elizabeth Edwards might have avoided a lot of very ugly publicity if they had just claimed that Johnny’s last child was born by a “surrogate” for them. Aside from DNA tests (which can’t be compelled), how does an outsider know that a couple’s “birth by a surrogate” is not in fact just the product of the husband’s extramarital affair?


18 posted on 05/04/2012 2:28:35 PM PDT by Tau Food
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To: Reddy; madprof98
I have to agree that Mitt shoul dbe judged for his own words and deeds, not the reproductive theory and practice of either his son or his grandfather (or was it great-grandfather?)

However, it can be noted that surrogacy is a truncated form of polygamy or plural marriage: engaging with women other than your wife in order to gain offspring. (Yes, even if it uses the wife's ova.)

The reproductive concubinage practiced by Abraham and other ther patriarchs was not inherently perverse, since it always involved normal intercourse. However reproductive surrogacy is always perverse, because it uses a form of sex other than real marital union, and is a commercial transaction transaction substitutiong for real personal marital union.

It would be acceptable as a breeding technique in veterinary medicine, but not acceptable for humans because of the intrinsically interpersonal meaning of human procreation.

So surrogacy is both polygamous AND perverse.

Not Mitt's fault, though.

99 posted on 05/04/2012 3:53:10 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (De veras.)
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