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Frank discussion re our loss to Obama/Romney and the future direction of FR and tea party movement
Click here to pledge your support! ^ | May 4, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 05/04/2012 6:31:27 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

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To: Jim Robinson

For years now I have added material to the Romneytruthfile. Because of that extensive reading, I’m convinced the Mitt Romney is a flip-flopping, pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage, pro-gun control, pro-obamacare, pro-big government, 3rd way, elitist social corporatist.

I really have no doubts about that summary.

Does this truce mean I can no longer post the truth about Mitt Romney? IF so, does it mean that Romney-bots are prevented from posting positive campaign threads about Mitt Romney?

Does it mean I cannot post information positive toward the candidacy of Virgil Goode, the only conservative remaining in the race for the presidency?

For years, Free Republic has loudly proclaimed Mitt Romney to be a lying liberal of the first order. Any sudden reversal of that position would appear to impartial observers to be a sudden caving in plus a healthy dose of hypocrisy.

Is it possible for me to post truth about Romney and other campaigns and NOT bad-mouth fellow freepers at the same time? Yes, it is possible. I’m not in the habit of bad-mouthing freepers anyway.


1,221 posted on 05/05/2012 5:13:44 AM PDT by xzins (Vote Goode not Evil (the lesser of 2 evils is still evil))
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To: Persevero
But the South fought for its right to do these things and more, and it was evil, and if they had backed off, the Civil War, in my opinion, would not have happened.

If you believe that, then I can't help you. All I can pray is that CWII ends happily with part of the country, hopefully the South regaining their freedom. Ignorance is evil, look in the mirror.

1,222 posted on 05/05/2012 5:16:15 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Jim Robinson

IMHO, it’s a shame that the majority of conservative voters/very conservative voters won’t, willingly, come together and vote “a protest vote” for Virgil Goode of the Constitution Party for ‘12 POTUS! If such a political movement by conservative voters/very conservative voters really did happen, then it would, also, send a message to all of those opposed to U.S. conservatism in any way, shape, or form. It’s too bad that it won’t, actually, happen, and it’s another missed opportunity by conservatives to send a serious message to everybody else in the political spectrum. Correct, or incorrect?


1,223 posted on 05/05/2012 5:27:58 AM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (The world continues to be stuck in a "all leftist, all of the time" funk. BUNK THE FUNK!)
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To: berdie

Even better, take a picture of Holder with you.


1,224 posted on 05/05/2012 5:32:55 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: MARKUSPRIME

Who the hell are you?

-Delapaz, member since 1997


1,225 posted on 05/05/2012 5:36:35 AM PDT by delapaz
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To: Persevero

I know it’s bizarre, but the reality is that the Federal Government spending is past the tipping point.

Put Ron Paul in office, balance the budget now, and it’s likely that compounding interest payments will still swallow us up. And that’s with ending all welfare, medicare, and half the defense budget. No one has the stomach for that, so we are therefore doomed.

We shouldn’t feel too bad, it’s not our fault, it’s the way all democracies ultimately fail. The USA is no different. If we want to blame someone, Woodrow Wilson and his ilk are probably the best targets. Direct election of senators, enabling monopoly money instead of gold, the income tax all enabled the rapid expansion of government leading to the current predicament.

Obama doesn’t see it as a problem, but neither does Romney, and the longer it goes on, the harder the crash. So let’s crash now and do everything in our power to hasten the crash while preparing for ourselves.

1. Get out of debt immediately as fast as you can.

2. Emergency fund: have one, make sure you can last 6-12 months with no income.

3. Are you dependent on any outside checks? SS? Pensions of any sort? Consider how to survive if those checks stop coming.

I could go on but you get the idea. For the next few years it’s head between the knees and brace for impact.


1,226 posted on 05/05/2012 5:45:55 AM PDT by delapaz
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To: Nextrush

Unlike Jim Robinson who’s presidential vote doesn’t matter in the solid Obama state of California, your presidential vote in Pennsylvania could make a difference. Your non vote or third party vote could be the tie breaker or the margin over the top. Your vote for Romney could be the margin over the coming Philadelphia fraud.

Do you want Obama? You have the important task in a swing state to prevent his reelection.

Romeny? Obama?


1,227 posted on 05/05/2012 5:46:31 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: central_va

WOW, what a terrific thread we are on. I’m just finding this, and there is no way to catch up.

Thanks, Jim R., for this!


1,228 posted on 05/05/2012 5:46:46 AM PDT by YepYep (We've just GOT to love Jesus enough to LISTEN to Him, and Do what He Says)
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To: Kickass Conservative
"It tells me his Conservative Opponents couldn't make their case.."

Well, that may be one possibility but I would rather think that since Mitt only got 1/3 of the vote most of the time and actually lost many of the earlier primaries, the lesson is that the 2/3 conservative vote was split over too many candidates.

Somehow, and I'm not sure how, if the conservatives ever expect to elect a candidate, they've got to get behind one guy or we will never get past GOP-e.

1,229 posted on 05/05/2012 5:47:40 AM PDT by evad (STOP SPENDING, STOP SPENDING, STOP SPENDING. It's the SPENDING Stupid)
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To: johnthebaptistmoore

I could get behind that. Currently my plan is tea party down ticket while casting a strategic Obama vote to protest the GOP.

Figuring that at this point any 3rd party candidate that gets less than 1% is ignored. However if a consensus develops here and other places that Virgil is the rallying point for conservatives disillusioned with the GOP and he develops a following, I’m in.


1,230 posted on 05/05/2012 5:50:07 AM PDT by delapaz
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To: caww

Well, you’re perfectly fine with that it seems. Doing nothing to assure Barry Soetoro doesn’t get a second term is the only way to stop it.


1,231 posted on 05/05/2012 5:52:16 AM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: delapaz

You will have a problem seeing a true consensus through all the sanctimonious self righteous smoke


1,232 posted on 05/05/2012 5:53:05 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: WOSG

Yes it will, precisely in the manner I outlined.
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Of course it will, short of a miracle, it’s over. I voted for Newt in my state, I tried to keep Romney out but the voters have spoken and it is what it is.


1,233 posted on 05/05/2012 5:54:59 AM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: delapaz

Anyone that on here that would vote o bama is liberal troll and I don’t care what your sign up date it.


1,234 posted on 05/05/2012 5:57:02 AM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: Elsie

Last I heard; there is still something called the Confirmation Process.

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and how did that work out with the wise Latino and the commie Kagan?


1,235 posted on 05/05/2012 5:58:57 AM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Good post.

IMHO, given the huge lurch to the left, it may take more time to kick it back towards Conservative candidates.

Priming the pump with Conservatives in the state and local elections will only help long-term. They will need a lot of support though.

Obama’s failure is perhaps a long-term bright spot for conservatives. He’s a perfect example of the clueless nature of the liberal beast.

I hope the combination of young men and women who have served, plus the present disillusionment of college grads trying to find work, will motivate them to the right...

Never give up!


1,236 posted on 05/05/2012 5:59:29 AM PDT by allen08gop (New Ticker, Tan, Rested, and Ready! Cheney 2012)
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To: mojitojoe

Same. Who cares what his sign up date he’s openly saying he’s voting for Obama. Thats utter BS on a supposedly conservative site.


1,237 posted on 05/05/2012 6:08:57 AM PDT by MARKUSPRIME
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To: mojitojoe; delapaz
Anyone that on here that would vote o bama is liberal troll and I don’t care what your sign up date it.

I second that heartily! This country cannot survive four more years of Obama!

1,238 posted on 05/05/2012 6:21:31 AM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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To: JRandomFreeper
I've heard the exact same lament when Clinton was being re-elected because the GOP-E put up Dole.

Free-Republic was around in May of 1996?

1,239 posted on 05/05/2012 6:30:46 AM PDT by GreyMountainReagan ("Pray for America")
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To: Lando Lincoln

And then what do they do? They send sappy, glittering pictures to one another with expressions of friendship.
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I’ve participated in that..... BUT let me explain. I always check the past posting history first and I only celebrate if they were a troll or a liberal. I never celebrate just to join the crowd. If I think the zot was ridiculous I either say nothing, put a question mark or make a comment. I have not and do not celebrate mods gone wild zots.


1,240 posted on 05/05/2012 6:32:06 AM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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