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Frank discussion re our loss to Obama/Romney and the future direction of FR and tea party movement
Click here to pledge your support! ^ | May 4, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 05/04/2012 6:31:27 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

My FRiends, we might as well face the reality that we the combined pro-life conservative movement and tea party coalition have lost this round (the presidential election) in the larger battle to reclaim our constitution and our inalienable rights. Rove, Romney and the GOP-e have successfully destroyed and driven off each and every pro-life conservative tea party candidate from the race and all have surrendered to the Romney camp. It is no secret that Romney is not one of us. There is absolutely no doubt that he has never accomplished a single conservative thing in his entire political career (one term as liberal governor of liberal Massachusetts and six years campaigning for president). In Massachusetts, he undeniably championed abortion, gay rights, global warming, gun control, big government statist mandated/socialized health care programs, liberal judges, TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending, debt limit increases, etc, and even though he's recently claimed a complete reversal in political beliefs and no longer despises pro-life conservatives or the time of Reagan-Bush, I still don't trust him. He still stubbornly holds on to some of his statist beliefs, like global warming, gays in the military, RomneyCare, stimulus spending, etc, so there is no way I can vote for him or join Cain, Perry, Bachmann, Newt or any others who are endorsing him. But I will not act on my prior promises that I would actively campaign against him if he wins the nomination. Our combined movement is already torn and splintered and is going to have to be mended if we're going to have any impact whatsoever against the liberal/progressives and statists after the election. To that end I propose a TRUCE among our conservative forces during the remainder of this election cycle.

We conservatives have already lost the presidency to either the Dems or the GOP-e, and if we tear the tea party apart, if we tear the pro-life movement apart, if we tear FR apart then we lose it all. It's far more important that we re-unite and live to fight another day. Even if we can't vote for a true conservative for the presidency, it's doubly important that we all turn out on election day or sooner and drag our friends, neighbors, relatives, co-workers, etc, to the polls to vote straight conservative for every slot on our ballots. The only way we can win our freedom back is to vote out the liberal progressives and vote in as many liberty loving conservatives as is humanly possible into every elected office at every level of government all across this great land. To prevent a total loss to the dems or GOP-e, we must continue the tea party rebellion into November and beyond. Whatever else you may do, you must turn out and vote straight tea party conservative down ticket!!

We must continue expanding our inroads into the state houses and into every elective office in the land. We must continue building on our majority in the house and we must retake the senate!! We must help the conservative governors and state legislatures to fully restore the ninth and tenth amendments and reclaim the real political power away from the federal usurpers and return it to the states and the people per the constitution!! This way, regardless of who wins the presidency, we can cut his unconstitutional expansionist movements off at the knees. And if any executive, civil officer or judge dares commit impeachable offenses, we must hold the majorities so we can impeach and remove them from office!!

And we must salvage and rebuild and continue strengthening our conservative pro-life, pro-family, pro-gun, pro-borders, pro-constitution, pro-small government, pro-defense, pro-liberty movements and our tea party coalition. And we must stop ripping each other apart!!

Therefore I hereby propose a general truce among our conservative forces!!

The Republic we save may be our own!!

As far as FR's finances go, we're in the same boat as the rest of the economy and will have to make do with what we can raise. Fortunately, the big debts we ran up a couple years ago have been paid off. We borrowed approx $20,000 a few years ago from two FReepers to fund our national convention, plus we ran up another $20,000 in legal fees during the last couple of years fighting off Righthaven. But those are now behind us and paid off. We also did quite a bit of traveling each year for the last three years on cross country tea party tours, but I think we can now cut that back and remove it from our budget requirements. If we're fortunate enough to not incur any additional legal costs or equipment costs (other than what we've already planned), and cut the travel and a few other areas, we should be able to tighten our belts enough to weather the storm even if we fail to reach our short term fundraising goals.

Whatever the outcome of the elections, we are prepared to roar into 2013 with the tea party chewing up liberal/progressives and RINOs and raising hell in our never ending fight for liberty!!

We are the resistance!!

Let's take the enemy head-on instead of fighting each other!!

Damn the torpedoes, full steam ahead!!

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To: Jim Robinson

Does this still mean that Romney voters or supporters will be banned?

841 posted on 05/04/2012 3:02:05 PM PDT by sthguard (The DNC theme song: "All You Need is Guv")
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To: campaignPete R-CT; onyx; Syncro

How different this campaign would’ve been with Sarah in the race. The difference between day and night, good and evil!! She is a campaign dynamo!! Twenty thousand plus turn out in Searchlight Nevada, pop 107!! Do you miss her yet?

842 posted on 05/04/2012 3:02:23 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is on!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Brothers-in-arms Jim. Hooah.

843 posted on 05/04/2012 3:03:02 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid" ~ Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: humblegunner

I compromised in the past, when I voted for Dole, Bush and McCain. I can no longer do it. We say we next time will be different and next time is ALWAYS worse. I’m done. God has really laid it on my heart not to compromise about this. I must follow God.

Peace brother, I don’t think I will be around much. I can’t stand watching people cave in.

Rather I will be working on my new ministry and my books. Perhaps I will be back after the election.

844 posted on 05/04/2012 3:03:59 PM PDT by reaganaut (VAB! Voting against both Romney and Obama. Constitution party, here I come!)
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To: reaganaut; Finny

“And I said that WHERE? Quit lying about me, troll.”

Un-wad your panties. From my #771: “If either of you are not one of those goofballs, sorry - it wasn’t intended for you.”

845 posted on 05/04/2012 3:04:36 PM PDT by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Awesome, you are. Thanks.

846 posted on 05/04/2012 3:07:15 PM PDT by Houmatt (NObama in 2012!)
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To: Jim Robinson

I’ll shoot ya a freep mail of speakers events etc

847 posted on 05/04/2012 3:07:18 PM PDT by advertising guy ( Slo Joe Biden " I promise you the President has a big stick, but Michelle's is bigger ")
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To: Neoliberalnot

You just had to go and spoil things with a bunch of facts, didn’t you?

848 posted on 05/04/2012 3:08:22 PM PDT by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: Jim Robinson
First, I apologize is this is a duplicate. It seemed to hang up and then, when I searched, I couldn't find it. That said: Thanks for this thread, Jim. I appreciate it because I just don't know what to do! Several years ago (during the second Bush term), I switched to Independent. I will never, ever vote for any Dem, even at the local level, BUT, I will always vote for a Conservative before a Republican. My reason is that during Bush's terms, the Republicans had the perfect opportunity to DO something and they squandered their chance. After they retook the House, they could have done a lot more, but chose not to!

I voted for McCain because of Sarah. If he had chosen any other VP candidate, I don't know what I would have done. Now I'm in the same (or worse) position. I will wait and see who he chooses for a VP...hopefully, a real Conservative, in which case, I will once again hold my nose and vote for the VP.

I hoped and prayed that Sarah would run, but under the circumstances, I totally understand her reluctance! I am so afraid for the future my children and grandchildren face. I am scared to death that Ru Paul will pull a Perot on us. In a perfect world, there is no way I could ever vote for Romney, but once again, he is the better of two evils, the other evil being the worst evil ever visited upon this country! At least there is a chance that Romney would replace the outgoing Supremes with other-than-Marxists! Personally, I feel that we have to vote for Romney. The alternative is tantamount to giving the vote to Obama. Four more years of his regime, and I truly believe there will never be another election! (I hope I'm wrong, but the writing is on the wall.)

In the meantime, I pray every day that God will deliver us from Obama and his henchmen. If it weren't for prayer, I would feel totally helpless...

849 posted on 05/04/2012 3:08:26 PM PDT by MomofMarine
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To: reaganaut

Well I can’t argue much with that.
You do what you gotta do and God be with you and guide your steps.

Me, I’m going for more ammo and liquor..

850 posted on 05/04/2012 3:12:11 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: struggle

It’s not just Obama we’ll be voting against. It’s everyone in the Obama administration, including Holder, Geitner, Clinton and all the czars and every appointed judge to come.

851 posted on 05/04/2012 3:12:33 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: Jim Robinson

Truce is a GREAT idea. Maybe we can move past the endless “I won’t vote for Romney/Then you’re voting for Obama” threads and talk about something constructive, like saving this country.

852 posted on 05/04/2012 3:13:05 PM PDT by oilwatcher
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To: berdie


853 posted on 05/04/2012 3:14:12 PM PDT by berdie
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To: MaxFlint

“...there’s a chance, however small, that Romney will govern to the right of Obama.”

Ditto. See #810.

854 posted on 05/04/2012 3:15:38 PM PDT by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: reaganaut
There is no logical reason why Romney should have gotten THIS far.

Well he has worked really hard and pretty smart for a really long time and he has a lot of smart, wealthy, hard-working core supporters who helped him all along the way.

So there is that.

855 posted on 05/04/2012 3:16:28 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Jim Robinson
Late to the party as usual, but I'll stick around to help sweep the floor. I fully support a truce on FR, bearing in mind that "truce" around here is, and always has been, a very relative thing.

Politics is the art of the possible. Otto von Bismark said that, and he ended up getting pretty much everything he wanted in time. What that means to me is that practical politics means having to make deals you don't want with people you don't like for only part of what you're after. A lot of idealistic politicians find that out the hard way when first they descend, starry-eyed, into the bowels of government.

I can articulate what I'm after: it's a smaller, less intrusive federal government that lives within its means and makes an honest effort to minimize its load on the electorate. Basic conservatism. I hesitate to use emotionally colored cliches such as ruling class, but there really is something to that term, and its referent spans both formal political parties, and smaller, less intrusive government is not in its interest. And so "part of what you're after" may not be available from either, in which case there isn't really much point in compromise at all.

This business of "vote for A or B will destroy the country" strikes me as little better than crude extortion even if it happens to be the case. Chaps a bit to have to pay the extortionist off, doesn't it? This is not, of course, open sanction for everything the extortionist has in mind, but it will certainly be represented as such by media openly hostile to smaller government, and they too have a stake in larger government because they're now an active part in it. Hence your dissatisfaction. Hence mine.

For me the real danger is from 0bama's decidedly left-wing, decidedly radical academic hangers-on who have been happy to leverage his administration into lasting political power. The hope some seem to hold that under Romney they will all go away is, I am afraid, a bit naive. It is they who promise to cause lasting damage to the country through control of the institutions that he hasn't the slightest desire to rein in. This is a very frustrating time to be a conservative.

856 posted on 05/04/2012 3:17:51 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Scutter; Jim Robinson; John Robinson
If I were you, I would seriously start working on porting FR to run on one of the cloud services.

No *%#&ing way! Please don't do it, Jim. "The Cloud" is not your FRiend.

857 posted on 05/04/2012 3:18:41 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: MomofMarine

Miss her greatly:

Prayers up!

858 posted on 05/04/2012 3:18:41 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is on!!)
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To: CharacterCounts
if Romney wins, we are guaranteed to have a left winger in the White House for at least 8 more years.

That's exactly the same way I see it..
859 posted on 05/04/2012 3:20:12 PM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: humblegunner

“Me, I’m going for more ammo and liquor..”

Common sense and reason live to fight another day.

860 posted on 05/04/2012 3:20:12 PM PDT by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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