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Frank discussion re our loss to Obama/Romney and the future direction of FR and tea party movement
Click here to pledge your support! ^ | May 4, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 05/04/2012 6:31:27 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

My FRiends, we might as well face the reality that we the combined pro-life conservative movement and tea party coalition have lost this round (the presidential election) in the larger battle to reclaim our constitution and our inalienable rights. Rove, Romney and the GOP-e have successfully destroyed and driven off each and every pro-life conservative tea party candidate from the race and all have surrendered to the Romney camp. It is no secret that Romney is not one of us. There is absolutely no doubt that he has never accomplished a single conservative thing in his entire political career (one term as liberal governor of liberal Massachusetts and six years campaigning for president). In Massachusetts, he undeniably championed abortion, gay rights, global warming, gun control, big government statist mandated/socialized health care programs, liberal judges, TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending, debt limit increases, etc, and even though he's recently claimed a complete reversal in political beliefs and no longer despises pro-life conservatives or the time of Reagan-Bush, I still don't trust him. He still stubbornly holds on to some of his statist beliefs, like global warming, gays in the military, RomneyCare, stimulus spending, etc, so there is no way I can vote for him or join Cain, Perry, Bachmann, Newt or any others who are endorsing him. But I will not act on my prior promises that I would actively campaign against him if he wins the nomination. Our combined movement is already torn and splintered and is going to have to be mended if we're going to have any impact whatsoever against the liberal/progressives and statists after the election. To that end I propose a TRUCE among our conservative forces during the remainder of this election cycle.

We conservatives have already lost the presidency to either the Dems or the GOP-e, and if we tear the tea party apart, if we tear the pro-life movement apart, if we tear FR apart then we lose it all. It's far more important that we re-unite and live to fight another day. Even if we can't vote for a true conservative for the presidency, it's doubly important that we all turn out on election day or sooner and drag our friends, neighbors, relatives, co-workers, etc, to the polls to vote straight conservative for every slot on our ballots. The only way we can win our freedom back is to vote out the liberal progressives and vote in as many liberty loving conservatives as is humanly possible into every elected office at every level of government all across this great land. To prevent a total loss to the dems or GOP-e, we must continue the tea party rebellion into November and beyond. Whatever else you may do, you must turn out and vote straight tea party conservative down ticket!!

We must continue expanding our inroads into the state houses and into every elective office in the land. We must continue building on our majority in the house and we must retake the senate!! We must help the conservative governors and state legislatures to fully restore the ninth and tenth amendments and reclaim the real political power away from the federal usurpers and return it to the states and the people per the constitution!! This way, regardless of who wins the presidency, we can cut his unconstitutional expansionist movements off at the knees. And if any executive, civil officer or judge dares commit impeachable offenses, we must hold the majorities so we can impeach and remove them from office!!

And we must salvage and rebuild and continue strengthening our conservative pro-life, pro-family, pro-gun, pro-borders, pro-constitution, pro-small government, pro-defense, pro-liberty movements and our tea party coalition. And we must stop ripping each other apart!!

Therefore I hereby propose a general truce among our conservative forces!!

The Republic we save may be our own!!

As far as FR's finances go, we're in the same boat as the rest of the economy and will have to make do with what we can raise. Fortunately, the big debts we ran up a couple years ago have been paid off. We borrowed approx $20,000 a few years ago from two FReepers to fund our national convention, plus we ran up another $20,000 in legal fees during the last couple of years fighting off Righthaven. But those are now behind us and paid off. We also did quite a bit of traveling each year for the last three years on cross country tea party tours, but I think we can now cut that back and remove it from our budget requirements. If we're fortunate enough to not incur any additional legal costs or equipment costs (other than what we've already planned), and cut the travel and a few other areas, we should be able to tighten our belts enough to weather the storm even if we fail to reach our short term fundraising goals.

Whatever the outcome of the elections, we are prepared to roar into 2013 with the tea party chewing up liberal/progressives and RINOs and raising hell in our never ending fight for liberty!!

We are the resistance!!

Let's take the enemy head-on instead of fighting each other!!

Damn the torpedoes, full steam ahead!!


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To: WOSG
True but the awful thing is .... WHAT IF OBAMA WINS?!?

I agree. That is why I am opposed to saying we can't win or spending any time trashing Romney. If Obama wins after what he has done and given how he is running for re-election then his second term will be far worse than his first.

1,201 posted on 05/04/2012 11:41:43 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: rogue yam
Yawn.... We must vote for Dole or Clinton will be re-elected and the world will end. I've heard this song before.

Got his nutz cut, and impeached (but not convicted), actually.

Nope. No vote for a GOP liberal here.

/johnny

1,202 posted on 05/04/2012 11:47:38 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: WOSG
the awful thing is .... WHAT IF OBAMA WINS?!? He basically will conclude - rightly - that America has signed up for European style socialist welfare statism. Because that is what he wants and that is what is being sold in his campaign.

I believe that is what Americans want....as a whole...and the majority... We have 'two socialists' running against each other while holding hands with both parties...and scamming the people out of every dime and nichol to further their shared agenda.

I cannot see this nation doing more now then going down the socialist road full bore...under either of them... What's to stop it?... they all just broke thru every gate and past every barrier we set up to even have a chance to stop them andd they are full speed ahead now.

It's pretty bad when a known Communist announces to the world ...that it's over and a New America is coming! Just as they have worked and dreamed about.

1,203 posted on 05/04/2012 11:48:29 PM PDT by caww
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To: fkabuckeyesrule

“I have often thought that perhaps in the future conservatives should consider onganizing better so that we dont have so many conservatives splitting up the conservative vote allowing a moderate republican to win the nomination. I dont know how that would be done.”

As I understand it, the process starts at the Precinct Committeeman level, where you go door to door and urge your neighbors to support your candidate. You and your fellow campaigners can select a different candidate from the one that the Republican Party Machine is endorsing. I’ve heard that’s the way to pack the ballot with real conservatives instead of electable moderates. Now why don’t I get off my butt and go volunteer to be a Precinct Committeeman? I really can’t answer that because I don’t know.


1,204 posted on 05/04/2012 11:58:40 PM PDT by Tarantulas ( Illegal immigration - the trojan horse that's treated like a sacred cow)
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To: JRandomFreeper

“Call it when it’s over.”

It’s over. Didnt Newt and Santorum give you the memo?

“it will settle out the way it settles out.”
Yes it will, precisely in the manner I outlined.


1,205 posted on 05/05/2012 12:10:17 AM PDT by WOSG (Anyone But Obama)
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To: JRandomFreeper

“Obama is going to win.”

Huh?!? First you cant even admit to Romney’s impending nomination even though he basically has zero competition left in the primary (nutball Ron Paul doesnt count, he has a ceiling of 20%).

Now you are predicting Obama winning a race 6 months from now, right after a bad job report that once again exposes Obama’s weakness and despite polls that show Obama undr 50% and the polls neck and neck.

Jeeeeeez.

“Get used to it. You are the one supporting them.”
LOL. I havent even had a chance to vote yet, and my guy dropped out. Actually my guys, plural, since I was Perry/Cain/Newt/Santorum ... LOL.

Now its Romney, because America needs ... Anyone But Obama.


1,206 posted on 05/05/2012 12:17:05 AM PDT by WOSG (Anyone But Obama)
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To: rogue yam

“If Obama wins after what he has done and given how he is running for re-election then his second term will be far worse than his first. “

Agreed. Obama plus a Democrat Congress passed 2 decades worth of govt expanding liberalism in 2 years (Obamacare etc). Obama plus GOP House gave us backbiting galore and multiple near meltdowns, and a complete failure on the budget.

So whatever Congress Obama has to help him or stop him, it will be ..... very difficult.


1,207 posted on 05/05/2012 12:20:46 AM PDT by WOSG (Anyone But Obama)
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To: Jim Robinson
I will vote for the conservatives like you said. I will not vote for Romney. No way after he joined forces with Ted Kennedy. Don't trust him since his people wrote Obamacare. I am against gay marriage special rights that Romney signed into law.
1,208 posted on 05/05/2012 12:28:42 AM PDT by Christie at the beach (I like Newt and would love to see political dead bodies on the floor.)
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To: delapaz

Anyone who willingly casts a vote for Obama is a libtard ,period. Enjoy your sign up status Obot, you and your collaborators only fool the imbeciles here.


1,210 posted on 05/05/2012 12:50:44 AM PDT by MARKUSPRIME
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To: entropy12

Taking a pic of O is a great idea!


1,211 posted on 05/05/2012 12:59:07 AM PDT by berdie
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To: Jim Robinson

After all the Santorum versus Newt versus Paul versus Cain versus Perry versus Bachmann etc. etc. it would be good to stop all the fighting.

I can’t vote for Romney no matter how much the RINOstream media whoops it up against Obama.

I’d be voting for Romney based on fear and resentment.

I’m not going that way but I am going to support conservative candidates and causes in the months ahead starting with the defense of Scott Walker in Wisconsin.

I will also support the congressional candidacy of Keith Rothfus in the 12th District of Pennsylvania.

Rothfus is taking on former John Murtha aide Mark Critz who currently holds the seat.


1,212 posted on 05/05/2012 1:24:13 AM PDT by Nextrush (PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN IS MY DREAM)
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To: WOSG

Sorry. Gun bans. Socialized medicine. $50 co-pay taxpayer-funded abortions. Homosexualized public schools. Left-wing judges.

If it walks like a leftist, and quacks like a leftist, it’s a leftist.


1,213 posted on 05/05/2012 1:32:25 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The most fearsome words in the English language 'I'm from the Romney campaign and I'm here to help!")
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To: Jim Robinson

AMEN, Brother!


1,214 posted on 05/05/2012 3:57:02 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

He can only appoint.

Last I heard; there is still something called the Confirmation Process.


1,215 posted on 05/05/2012 4:02:56 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Amerigomag
...and work from within ...

I see THAT is going along just fine!

1,216 posted on 05/05/2012 4:06:20 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Nextrush
After all the Santorum versus Newt versus Paul versus Cain versus Perry versus Bachmann etc. etc. it would be good to stop all the fighting.

What name is missing? Why, It's Sarah Palin. To understand what happened to the conservatives, one need go no farther than that.

I don't think that she did it deliberately, but she teased the base for months - a time during which serious energy should have been devoted to serious candidates.

1,217 posted on 05/05/2012 4:27:46 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Thanks Jim. One consolation, there is still a lot of time between now and Election Day.....And I am afraid because the Reds know what will happen, they will “pull the trigger...”


1,218 posted on 05/05/2012 4:58:35 AM PDT by Shady (The undeniable truth of the Obama Administration...The numbers do not lie.)
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To: Lando Lincoln
Maybe we disagree and that is okay. But this is not a breathless obituary. I am sure FR is not going anywhere anytime soon. It will continue to exist in some form. However, the wounds are deep and the scars will be permanent in that so many long-time posters are now gone. Posters with sign-up dates of 1998, even 1997, have been culled from the herd. Some have been among the most insightful posters FR ever had and perhaps ever will.

In my view, the most harmful participants are those who gang up and encircle a person, drive them to the ground and then claim they failed the purity test of the moment. All while professing to speak on behalf of the owner.

And then what do they do? They send sappy, glittering pictures to one another with expressions of friendship.

You couldn't be more right.

1,219 posted on 05/05/2012 5:01:59 AM PDT by billva
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To: Lando Lincoln
Maybe we disagree and that is okay. But this is not a breathless obituary. I am sure FR is not going anywhere anytime soon. It will continue to exist in some form. However, the wounds are deep and the scars will be permanent in that so many long-time posters are now gone. Posters with sign-up dates of 1998, even 1997, have been culled from the herd. Some have been among the most insightful posters FR ever had and perhaps ever will.

In my view, the most harmful participants are those who gang up and encircle a person, drive them to the ground and then claim they failed the purity test of the moment. All while professing to speak on behalf of the owner.

And then what do they do? They send sappy, glittering pictures to one another with expressions of friendship.

Hello dear friend!!!! very well expressed. The hit gang is relatively very small in number but has been effective in making it unpleasant to participate. Purity test of Moment.. excellent choice of terms and it has been very disheartening to observe over the past years.

I know many are actively posting at other forums and some just have dropped out of the cyber picture completely. You just do NOT verbally and emotionally beat up people without ramifications, not only to that person but to the observers.
1,220 posted on 05/05/2012 5:11:38 AM PDT by DollyCali (Don't tell God how big your storm is... tell your storm how BIG your God is!)
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