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GOP voters want Santorum, Rubio for VP
The Hill ^ | 5/03/12 | Jonathan Easley

Posted on 05/04/2012 2:56:52 AM PDT by Libloather

GOP voters want Santorum, Rubio for VP
By Jonathan Easley - 05/03/12 04:32 PM ET

Republican voters would like to see Rick Santorum or Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) standing at Mitt Romney's side this fall, a new poll found.

A Reuters-Ipsos poll released Thursday found Santorum and Rubio are the top choices among Republican voters to be Romney’s running mate.

Republican voters were presented with a list of 19 names, and a plurality, 18 percent, said Rick Santorum would be the best candidate to fill out the GOP ticket, while 17 percent went for Rubio.

Rubio was by far the most popular candidate with Tea Party supporters, and the only potential vice presidential pick to pull more than 20 percent with any of the groups represented in the poll.

In addition to being from a swing state with a large delegate prize, Romney might find Rubio’s Tea Party support appealing as a running mate, since he has struggled to win over some conservatives. Santorum came in second among Tea Party supporters with 16 percent.

But if Romney hopes to appeal to independents, Rubio performs dismally, pulling only 4 percent of their support. Santorum led among independents at 16 percent, and was followed closely by New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie and former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush (R).

Christie and Bush tied for third among Republicans in the poll, each pulling 13 percent, with former Arkansas Gov. and GOP presidential candidate Mike Huckabee taking 12 percent.

A number of potential VP picks who seemed to be gaining momentum recently barely registered in the poll.

Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), the author of the House Republican budget, campaigned with Romney in his home state last week but logged only 4 percent in the Reuters-Ipsos poll. Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell, who appeared with Romney at a campaign stop in his home state on Thursday, didn’t even register in the poll.

Ohio Sen. Rob Portman, who many believe to be the safest pick, and therefore the likeliest, also failed to register in the poll, finishing behind Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels, Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal and former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty.

The Reuters-Ipsos poll of 579 Republicans has a 4.7 percent margin of error, the poll of 308 independents has a 6.5 percent margin of error, and the poll of 317 Tea Party supporters has a 6.4 percent margin of error.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gop; naturalborncitizen; rubio; santorum; vp

1 posted on 05/04/2012 2:56:55 AM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather
Rubio for VP?

Shows how much traction the Natural Born Citizen issue has in the popular mind. Rubio? Fine handsome boy. Just not a Natural Born Citizen and therefore ineligible for VP or Presidential candidacy.

2 posted on 05/04/2012 3:06:42 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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To: Libloather

In watching the news, I have noticed several Dem “bright”lights saying that Rubio would be a good choice for VP. I know it would not be because he is not a natural-born citizen and would thus give cover to Obama. The natural-born citizen issue is the best case against Obama’s legitimacy. If Rubio gets the nod, we get the finger and we will have another McCain on our hands. I will not vote for someone who is not constiyutionally qualified for the office.


3 posted on 05/04/2012 3:10:36 AM PDT by David Isaac
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To: Libloather

OH GOD NO!!! Not Santorum. He would not even be able to deliver PA. Rubio would carry FL. Whoever wins FL wins the White House.


4 posted on 05/04/2012 3:11:49 AM PDT by no dems (TED CRUZ: A PROVEN CONSERVATIVE FOR U.S. SENATE FROM TEXAS.)
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To: Libloather; Kenny Bunk

Rubio is perfectly eligible, but that’s neither here nor there. I think Romney will choose Santorum (which I suspect was Santorum’s game all along) because he and Santorum are very close on the issues (both big government nanny-staters) and differ only on the degree of Evangelical-style social conservativism.

The people who voted for Santorum didn’t do so because he differed significantly from Romney in policy areas (and Romney doesn’t differ significantly from the Dems in policy) but because of the social conservative aspect.

They are both unlikeable personally, so I don’t think there will be much rivalry. Rubio is much more likeable so I think he and Romney might not get along very well, even though Rubio has a Mormon background, too. Obama basically picked Biden because he didn’t want anybody who would overshadow him, and I think Romney will pick Santorum for the same reason.


5 posted on 05/04/2012 3:18:01 AM PDT by livius
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To: Libloather

As everyone knows I supported Santorum during the Primary, but I do not want him as Vice President nominee. I don’t want him part of Romney’s disaster. Santorum is young enough to run again and become President on his own merits. Newt would be a better pick since this was his last chance to run for President due to his age. Rubio is not eligible.


6 posted on 05/04/2012 3:33:08 AM PDT by napscoordinator (VOTE FOR NEWT!!!!)
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To: Libloather
I am a fan of Susana Martinez, the Governor of New Mexico. She would bring excitement to the ticket in the same way that Sarah Palin did for John McCain. If Romney picks the milquetoasts Daniels or Pawlenty then he will lose big time. Romney MUST pick someone with proven conservative credentials.
7 posted on 05/04/2012 3:44:53 AM PDT by Flavious_Maximus
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To: Libloather

Doesn’t matter who the VP choice is if the man at the top of the ticket doesn’t stand a chance.


8 posted on 05/04/2012 4:09:43 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Kenny Bunk
Just not a Natural Born Citizen and therefore ineligible for VP or Presidential candidacy.

But hasn't the current POTUS blazed a trail to the presidency for just such people?

9 posted on 05/04/2012 4:13:10 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: cripplecreek
"Doesn't matter who the VP choice is if the man at the top of the ticket doesn't stand a chance."

I'm so tired of crappioli like yours.

No wonder long-time freepers are leaving this board in droves.

Leni/MinuteGal

10 posted on 05/04/2012 4:13:51 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: David Isaac
The natural-born citizen issue is the best case against Obama’s legitimacy.

How has it worked so far?

11 posted on 05/04/2012 4:14:45 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: no dems

I don’t dislike Santorum but he is day-old (2-day old?) bread.

I was not aware that Rubio is not a natural-born citizen.


12 posted on 05/04/2012 4:17:10 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: MinuteGal
I'm so tired of crappioli like yours.

Tough noogies. Facts is facts and I'm not going to lie like a liberal to make you happy.
13 posted on 05/04/2012 4:19:56 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: luvbach1

I was not aware that Rubio is not a natural-born citizen.
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Marco Rubio IS eligible to be POTUS or VP. Don’t buy into that conspiracy theory that keeps circulating around here.


14 posted on 05/04/2012 4:28:41 AM PDT by no dems (TED CRUZ: A PROVEN CONSERVATIVE FOR U.S. SENATE FROM TEXAS.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

15 posted on 05/04/2012 4:30:55 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: MinuteGal; All

No wonder long-time freepers are leaving this board in droves.
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Count me in that number. I just stop by here periodically to see if the Conservative “purist” crazies are still here; and they are. I’ll private mail you two good Conservative websites a lot of us have gone to.


16 posted on 05/04/2012 4:31:08 AM PDT by no dems (TED CRUZ: A PROVEN CONSERVATIVE FOR U.S. SENATE FROM TEXAS.)
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To: MinuteGal

I was so tired of that crap myself and seriously considered leaving this board. But there are others like yourself that keep me here.


17 posted on 05/04/2012 4:47:29 AM PDT by myrabach
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To: luvbach1
The NBC argument regarding Rubio is absurd.
Nothing in our constitution mentions a candidate's parents.
18 posted on 05/04/2012 4:58:21 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: no dems
NoDems, could you please define what you mean by "Conservative “purist” crazies"?

I am not ready to disagree until I find out exactly what your definition is. Inquiring minds want to know!

19 posted on 05/04/2012 5:04:51 AM PDT by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie mmm mmm mmm)
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To: Libloather

Enough with the stupid birther crap...

The Heritage Guide to the Constitution

The governing phrase from Art. II, Sec. 1 of the Constitution.

Do you have to be born within the territorial limits of the United States to be such a citizen? No, said the Founders. The Heritage Foundation’s Guide shows how the First Congress in 1790 provided that “the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond the sea or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born.” This was our first naturalization statute (1 Stat. 104). This Congress contained many Members, notably James Madison himself, who had just framed the Constitution in Philadelphia.

Now, consider Marco Rubio. His parents were resident aliens when he was born in 1971, seeking and soon to receive their status as naturalized U.S. citizens. Under the Fourteenth Amendment, “all persons born...in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the states wherein they reside.” This “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” clause shows why Rubio is — and, very likely, why children of illegal aliens are not — a “natural born citizen of the United States.”

http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/07/the_good_news_rubios_eligible.html


20 posted on 05/04/2012 5:10:55 AM PDT by baclava
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To: luvbach1

Rubio is not a natural born citizen.

His parents were not American citizen at the time of his birth.


21 posted on 05/04/2012 5:13:09 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: baclava

It is becoming tiresome.


22 posted on 05/04/2012 5:26:04 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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23 posted on 05/04/2012 5:30:05 AM PDT by deoetdoctrinae (Gun-free zones are playgrounds for felons)
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To: cripplecreek; MinuteGal

I’m so tired of crappioli like yours.

Tough noogies. Facts is facts and I’m not going to lie like a liberal to make you happy.

I don’t get this, Leni. He’s giving his opinion. Freepers are leaving in droves? A more likely reason might be the name calling and vicious attacks on candidates’s character(see Rick Santorum)that has been allowed to take place on this site without sanction.


24 posted on 05/04/2012 6:03:37 AM PDT by Mountain Mary (One Nation Under God..."There I said it" ... Great One...)
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To: Libloather

Thats all we need a pro-amnestry VP like Rubio to go with a our pro-Planned Parenthood, pro-gun control, pro-mandate, pro-socialized healthcare nominee.

That’s a DREAM ticket.


25 posted on 05/04/2012 6:17:17 AM PDT by vmivol00 (I won't be reconstructed.)
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To: Mountain Mary

People should direct their anger at the GOP and ask why they so desperately manipulated Mitt Romney into the nomination when the man is clearly a liberal. The democrats themselves couldn’t have nominated a better man to run against.

The GOP manipulations and Romney’s arrogant insults have cost them millions of voters.


26 posted on 05/04/2012 6:21:00 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: baclava
You know, you just may be 100% correct.

However, unless you are cashing a SCOTUS paycheck and have 4 other Justices with you, I am inclined to hold off on your POV.

.... seeking and soon to receive their status as naturalized U.S. citizens.

Which is, IMNSVHO, a nice way of saying they were still under the jurisdiction of Cuba, whence they were refugees. They chose us. We had not quite gotten around to choosing them. Furthermore, we have no indication that they ever became naturalized citizens.

Do you not agree that this issue which divides us ought to be decided by the SCOTUS? After all, it is THEIR job, not ours.

27 posted on 05/04/2012 6:57:25 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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To: Libloather

NOBODY wants that idiot Santorum as the VP pick!

Rubio would be one of the best possible picks though.


28 posted on 05/04/2012 6:59:21 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: livius; luvbach1

Hope to see you in court, where the NBC issue ought to be heard on its merits, not for purposes of jurisdictional dismissal- ping?


29 posted on 05/04/2012 7:01:47 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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To: Libloather

Rubio, I’d support... Santorum I would have back when the primaries started, but after his behavior and actions through them, no way in hell would I now.

I do agree VP is about the talent level the guy is, but after watching him ensure the Romney nomiation, him added to the ticket will make an already vomit inducing vote, become a flat out ebola vote.


30 posted on 05/04/2012 7:08:46 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Kenny Bunk

“To say that Rubio, Jindal, and Haley are forever barred because of a strained interpretation of the Constitution’s eligibility clause would condemn conservatism to minority status for the foreseeable future. Surely, that is not what we want.”

Making conservatives sound like bitter crackers - is that what you want?


31 posted on 05/04/2012 7:12:14 AM PDT by baclava
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To: Libloather
A better VP choice:

ALAN WEST - Conservative, tough, smart, Dem establishment fears him, military experience ... and, for those who give a shiite, he's black.

32 posted on 05/04/2012 7:32:59 AM PDT by DesertSapper (Wishing Cain was still in the race.)
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To: Libloather
We do?

Anyone else getting that Twilight Zone feeling more and more these days?

33 posted on 05/04/2012 7:36:19 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: no dems

Actually, if Romney carries FL but loses in OH he is very unlikely to get to 270, and Romney has a better chance of carrying FL than OH, so I would posit that whoever carries OH wins the election.

I think that a Romney-Portman ticket carries FL and OH, while a Romney-Rubio ticket carries FL but perhaps not OH. Rob Portman would also be more helpful than Rubio in states like PA and MI due to his appeal among blue-collar Midwesterns, and would be more helpful than Rubio in attracting Evangelical voters (from whom we need a large turnout despite their apprehensions about Romney) in VA, NC and elsewhere because he’s a Methodist (as opposed to a Mormon like Romney, or a Catholic like Rubio).

Rubio would be a bit more helpful than Portman in NV, CO and NM, but those states are less likely to be carried by Romney even with Rubio on the ticket, and he would need to carry all three in order to make up for losing OH.

The likeliest route to 270 for Romney is the 22 McCain states + the Omaha CD + IN + NC + VA + FL + OH + one more state (most likely NH). I think he’s far likelier to get there with Portman than with Rubio.

When I first saw a speech by Rubio in 2008, I told people that he would be on a presidential ticket someday. But I think that 2020 will be his year (and for president, not VP).


34 posted on 05/04/2012 7:41:01 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: Kenny Bunk

You are in for a sad suprise at the number of Freepers who think Rubio and Jindal are natural born. They reflect the same percentage of the rest of the US population.

Fortunately for all of us it will likely be Rob Portman. Mitt is no risk taker and Ohio is a must win state.


35 posted on 05/04/2012 8:12:42 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
You are in for a sad suprise

Sad? Yes. Surprised? No.

I consider a case unconsidered unsettled. All I ask (All the guy asks!) is that the SCOTUS hear an appeal that reaches its august bench.

If I (You, and Leo Donofrio) am wrong about this NBC issue, I do not want the opinion of my pals at the VFW Bar (or the Elks, for that matter) Let me hear it from the Big Court.

36 posted on 05/04/2012 9:18:10 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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To: David Isaac

What makes you say Rubio isn’t an NBC?


37 posted on 05/04/2012 10:35:03 AM PDT by calex59
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To: vmivol00

” Thats all we need a pro-amnestry VP like Rubio to go with a our pro-Planned Parenthood, pro-gun control, pro-mandate, pro-socialized healthcare nominee.

That’s a DREAM ticket.”

DREAM.....yeah..


38 posted on 05/04/2012 12:28:05 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Libloather

I think Marco Rubio would be an instantaneous hit...he looks great...he speaks well...he’s Hispanic...he looks great....okay, I said that twice...


39 posted on 05/04/2012 3:22:28 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Libloather

I notice the author felt compelled to put an (R) after Jebbie’s name. Is that because he is so “democratic” on many issues?


40 posted on 05/04/2012 4:06:45 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Past is prologue: The American people again let us down in this election cycle.)
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To: MinuteGal; cripplecreek; no dems
I suggest #4 by 'no dems' is more likely the reason long-time freepers are leaving this board....(if that is indeed the case)

Some of us long-time freepers (myself, March 1999) ....have become sadly disappointed with how we were treated by choosing Santorum over Gingrich.

I agree with cripplecreek here....

..if Romney wins the nomination.....who cares about the vp...

...Romney/Obama.....one is just a faster exit for our country than the other

41 posted on 05/04/2012 6:49:05 PM PDT by Guenevere (....God Bless Rick Santorum.....Press on toward the goal, it's not over!)
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To: Kenny Bunk

“..not a Natural Born Citizen and therefore ineligible for VP or Presidential candidacy.”

Can you show us where in the Constitution that Rubio is ineligible to run?

Mark Levin, a Constitutional expert, said Rubio IS eligible.

I’d like Rick Santorum to be the VP (since Santorum can’t be POTUS now), but what’s right is right.


42 posted on 05/04/2012 8:32:29 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: All; Libloather

A Vice-President pick has to be someone who would be ready to lead the country on Day 1, if anything happened to the president, and that would be Rick Santorum.

Santorum’s experience on national defense alone would make me sleep better.


43 posted on 05/04/2012 8:45:34 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Guenevere; All

Some of us long-time freepers (myself, March 1999) ....have become sadly disappointed with how we were treated by choosing Santorum over Gingrich.
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As another long-time FReeper (since 2000) I can tell you this. If you really want to be berated, ostracized, called a liberal-loving faggot and all sorts of nasty names, just dare to suggest that we’re stuck with Romney and that we have to play the hand we’ve been dealt and put our differences aside and unite to get Obama out of the White House before he destroys this nation. They will verbally abuse you like nothing you’ve ever seen.

I was a Newt supporter. I tried to support Santorum but he got too wacked for me. He was Pat Robertson on steroids. I got tired of him having to explain, every day, what he meant when he opened his mouth yesterday. None of us can help it that the good Conservatives, WHO ARE EVEN REMOTELY ELECTABLE, did not have the ‘nads to run this year.


44 posted on 05/05/2012 8:41:55 PM PDT by no dems (TED CRUZ: A PROVEN CONSERVATIVE FOR U.S. SENATE FROM TEXAS.)
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To: Sun

Santorum is the best choice for VP. The country will not vote for a baptized mormon in addition to Romney. Rubio has not denounced his early years as a mormon, thus no way can two mormons win. At least 20 percent of all voters have polled they will not vote for a mormon, imagine two mormons on the ticket, it will mean Obama gets back in.


45 posted on 05/05/2012 11:17:00 PM PDT by ugogo (Rubio cannot be VP to Romney)
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To: Sun; All
For the Last GD Time:

I believe that a Natural Born Citizen is someone born in the USA, or USA controlled Territory, BOTH of whose parents are American Citizens at the time of the child's birth.

This is hardly a radical, or new thought. NB, I say, "BELIEVE" Since I am not a Supreme Court Justice, I cannot define the term, NBC legally.

However, since neither are you, Mark Levin, or Bark Hussein Obama, Jr., my belief or opinion is just as valid as your belief.... or anyone else's.
The Supreme Court of the United States needs to decide between us. The issue has been before them a good dozen times now, in completely acceptable form. They have chosen to ... by their own admission ... to escape and evade the issue.

Until they choose to hear the issue on its merits and offer an opinion, they leave the American public to its own differing opinions. They are thus, in dereliction of their duty and weakening our Constitution.

46 posted on 05/07/2012 8:42:58 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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To: no dems

In politics, the perfect is the enemy of the good.


47 posted on 05/07/2012 5:22:41 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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