Posted on 05/03/2012 8:47:24 PM PDT by Neil E. Wright
"We don't intend to turn the Republican Party over to the traitors in the battle just ended. We will have no more of those candidates who are pledged to the same goals as our opposition and who seek our support. Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates wouldn’t make any sense at all." -- President Ronald Reagan
There has been a lot of discussion on this forum on whether or not a "conservative" can or should support Mitt Romney in the general election.
I am 60 years old, and for all of my adult life, since I joined the U.S. Navy at age 17, I have fought the EVIL ideology that is socialism/marxism/communism/statism, call it what you will. And it IS EVIL. It destroys the human spirit. It reduces every individual to a state of hopeless dependence on an all powerful state, run for the benefit of a few favored, powerful, connected people.
We all KNOW that B. HUSSEIN O. is a communist, and truth be told, an islamist supporter. So, he MUST be defeated and destroyed, along with his ideology.
However, myth obamney is also a "progressive" (read COMMUNIST), BY HIS OWN WORDS.
His actual record is indistinguishable from B. HUSSEIN O.
"If we must have an enemy at the head of Government, let it be one whom we can oppose, and for whom we are not responsible, who will not involve our party in the disgrace of his foolish and bad measures." - Alexander Hamilton
Therefore, I will NOT vote for a socialist/marxist/communist/statist, REGARDLESS of party label. I WILL NOT VOTE FOR myth obamney in November. I will vote for the Constitution Party candidate, Virgil Goode, or I will write in my DOG over EITHER major party candidate, because they are EXACTLY the same.
Before you start to flame me, ask yourself this: IF myth somehow is elected, do you REALLY expect him to roll back ANYTHING that B. HUSSEIN O. forced on us? ObamaCare??? That is RomneyCare. EPA rules and regulations? Labor relations rules and regulations that empower unions? Energy policy? IS THERE ANYTHING that the rooster-sucking, goat-humping statist socialist/communist Myth Obamney will eliminate? I would suggest that his whole f**king record says not only "no" but "HELL NO!" There is NOTHING he would change.
So, for all the myth obamney lurkers, go back to your f**king candidate and tell him I said he can take his "God in waiting" cult beliefs, his f**king "magic underwear" and his f**king communism and GO STRAIGHT TO HELL!
“Where liberty dwells, there is my country." –Benjamin Franklin
And the Obama administration thanks you for your support.
There never was any other kind of wind at the gubernatorial level in Massachusetts.
What Mitt means by claiming to be “severely conservative” (compare his present platform to some known politicians and you can see it’s not literally so) is that “OK, I feel the wind and this time it’s blowing rightward. Hard. Look I’m bending over backwards (or my best imitation of it) for you guys.”
Yes, but he political blow back will be powerful. Hopefully, the GOP will dissolve as a party after 2012. Let the RINOs go home to the RATs and let the Conservatives take over.
We heard you. Like gusty this is starting to get old.
I know you’re having a good laugh, but like HiTech Redneck said, you’re gonna get bounced out of here if you keep it up.
Absolutely superb post! You nailed the whole game.
They've never been able to participate in the messy discourse of freedom because it absolutely horrifies them! The Alinsky rule they throw at us when we “misbehave”, ranting about morals and freedom is #3-Ridicule . Ridicule is all they have.
You have to have a functioning soul to understand the passion for freedom. And they are without functioning souls.
Goodnight.
“There remains the one standard that has not yet been universally used, namely, the choosing of candidates on moral grounds. A nation always gets the kind of politicians it deserves. When our moral standards are different, our legislation will be different. As long as the decent people refuse to believe that morality must manifest itself in every sphere of human activity, including the political, they will not meet the challenge of Marxism. Contemporary history proves that modern political leaders, devoid of a moral inspiration and relying solely on a mass basis (might makes right), proves ineffectual in time of crisis."-- Fulton Sheen, “COMMUNISM and the CONSCIENCE of the WEST” -1948
And when most everyone is gone, who’s gonna pay the bills??
Water, duck's back.
But I will continue to campaign against all liberals, and that includes Romney.
I can't vote for someone that is for abortion and homosexuals and government health care.
The Obama administration should thank the GOP for pushing another liberal with dirty tricks, badmouthing conservatives, and changing rules mid-game.
/johnny
The management is more tolerant now, but someone who is trying to firebrand for Mitt still isn’t going to get tolerated for long.
I personally feel that Mitt will be less likely to bring the worst than Obama will be. He will stink, slack, and disappoint, but won’t take it on himself to kick the foundations out like Obama has. Others disagree. They’re free to. Whatever beliefs we have, we should be prepared to state the reasons. That is discourse. A childish mocking game repeated over and over isn’t discourse.
I can hear the desperation in the wheels spinning in your mind. I understand, but this is a man with almost NO core principles. He has a recorded legacy (no matter what political forces caused it to be) and he will not govern in direct opposition to everything he's done before.
I'm sorry, but people are flawed, and tend to assert their own rightness, even when it means choosing the most destructive direction. In practice, that means that Romney is the safest choice possible for the ruling class globalists. He will not rock the boat, because he's already sold his soul to them.
You're someone I respect on this board, and I have confidence that you've fully informed yourself about Mitt's real character and stance on issues and policy. I think you know in your gut that he's about the worst choice any conservative could make, if they honestly stand for our traditional American principles.
Ahem, self contradiction detected here. If Romney has leftist core principles, this assertion makes sense. If no core principles, it makes no sense.
I don't want a well ordered world without strife. I want a laser focused response to the morons who put us in this position with their worse than RHINO candidate Mittens and I want intelligent people that I have admired for some time now on this site to turn the power of their laser in a direction that will cut the so called Republicans right off their stump.
I've seen FR institute change and I want all to do whatever their hearts will allow to effect a revolution of universal proportions. An upheaval of what we've allowed to be force fed to us as conservatism for decades now. A vomiting of poisonous progressive Marxist elitism that inhabits both parties and the halls of government at all levels.
Is that messy enough for you? Yawn. Now really, goodnight.
Now, tell us how you really feel!LOLLOL
I am with ya on that one! Seems these fellers havent seen the EOs that Obama issued these past days. Its on a thread a few down from this one.
There is a choice. Re-elect this commie by not voting for a liberal president and sit back and watch as they all get rounded up by SS men, or vote for a Mass’ liberal and get off their asses and vote in a conservative congress to make him tow the line.
This POTUS is doing just like the national socialists did in the 30s in Germany. He will dismiss congress altogether during the period between Nov and Jan if the GOP takes control of both houses. He will do it through more EOs and this present congress will do nothing to stop it.
Don’t kid yourself. This guy has disaster written all over him for the political right.
That is EXACTLY WHY the Ruling Class GOP-e and the Obama Regime and his MarxoFasciosts chose Romney to be the contender against Obama. As several MittWitts already stated here on FR, Principled Conservatives are a minority that will be tossed into irrelevance and into the dust bin of history. Like Obama, they will slip up and reveal their true intents now and again.
It's as if Conservatives today are going to become a modern political version of Germany's Jews from the 1930's. Creating a climate of fear and accusation if one does not go along with the pogrom. It's how an entire people are herded into seig-heiling a system of absolute despotism, for the greater good - as it's ALWAYS marketed.
And the GOP-e Ruling Class is marketing this campaign no different, and still this people refuse to accept what has been done to them and is staring them in the face.
Because they absolutely refuse to allow themselves to think that it could possibly happen here, and that betrayal into the fundamental transformation Obama started, is what Romney being foisted on us after destroying every Conservative running is all about.
The Ruling Class knows where the power and money is going to lie, and they will do anything to share in it. Thus, Romney.
The ballot box is FAILED........even you should know the next little box.
In that scenario, you wouldn’t get a third Conservative party. You would get Michael Bloomberg as the standard bearer of conservatism.
Losing begets losing, as does winning. If you want a more conservative party, you have to win elections.
I’m with you! No Romney, no way, never!
If you refuse to vote in the race for ‘12 POTUS, then vote in all of the other political races, instead. Don’t stay at home and harm all of the other political races that are going on at the same time! Vote for conservatives in all of the other political races, and prevent the left from becoming, even, more powerful!
Those who decide right from wrong independent of God suffer the same malady of Islam. They have a fundamental problem with justice.
Perfect Justice demands perfect righteousness. Perfect righteousness demands perfect justice. The only problem is that without a source of perfect righteousness, we only have to fall back on what we find to be righteous in our own minds, except we know even our own minds are not perfectly righteous.
These are some fundamental doctrines provided to man by God manifest in the Tabernacle of the Old Testament. Ignoring that provision by God, doesn’t provide either righteousness nor justice, but promotes ignorant arrogance.
Turn to God and what He provides. He is sure and just and righteous. He seeks to provide a perfectly just and right relationship with Him and in all things.
I get the impression of a bunch of adolescents who fancy themselves saving the day by dying at the Alamo, when the more appropriate analogy is Pickett’s Charge.
We have the most divisive administration in the history of this country. They have been very busy the last three years setting American against American.
Rich vs poor
Male vs Female
Christian vs Jew
Muslims vs everyone else
Gay vs straight
Morman vs Christian
Union vs private
East vs west
Obama has set race relations back 75 years
I can only imagine the glee at setting Freeper against Freeper.
The enmity between Americans created by this administration is only going to end in mass bloodshed.
On a national level the fix is in and it docent matter which big government statist gets elected.
Personally, I am putting my efforts into electing conservatives at my local level.
I'm topping off my ammo stocks too.
Cheers!
I will vote my conscience and the rest is up to God.
Do you have a problem with that?
Finally! Someone understands the game being played.
We have to get our minds out of thinking that the only choice we have is to do what the Ruling Class and the Marxofascists serve to us as as “choices”.
THAT post should be a mandatory read for every Freeper.
“If Obama wins, it’ll be all your fault”.
“ABO”
“Romney is better because he has business experience”
“I would crawl over broken glass to vote for Romney” and the winner:
“Obama thanks you”.
“Getting very, very tiresome and repetitive.”
It’s all they’ve got Mary, all they’ve got.
Romney vs. Obama? One of them has to lose, rejoice in that fact, whichever it is.
I don’t vote for liberals, no matter what their political party.
You’re an idiot. what’s the matter? Need some excitement in your life?
Troll...
Hey Windflier...Reaganaut has it right....we aren’t ‘not voting’ for Romney......’We’re voting ‘Against’ “both”.
That’s important because we’re constantly being told we have to vote ‘Anybody but Obama’....well we ARE Voting...’against’ them ‘both’.
Well gee, you outed me! I am a troll, created this account just for this time. I surrender .... NOT!!!! asswipe!
Neil E. Wright
Since Nov 28, 1997
Well gee, you outed me! I am a troll, created this account just for this time. I surrender .... NOT!!!! asswipe!
Neil E. Wright
Since Nov 28, 1997 “Where liberty dwells, there is my country." –Benjamin Franklin Islam Delenda Est! REFUSE. RESIST. Do NOT Submit! ★ FREEDOM! ★
So Reagan then left the GOP and went off and formed a third party...
Reagan went where a party more reflected his own values.
He left the Democrat Party for that reason.
Reagan would not even recognize the GOP today, because it’s even more to the Left than the Dems were when he left them.
Principled Conservatives will go where their values are extolled and reflected.
They are no longer reflected in the party of the GOP-e, which is become nothing more than a satellite of the DNC. All the Ruling Class cares about is control of the money and the power it gives them. They care not a whit about the fundamental underpinnings that make Conservative principles, nor the Constitution or the Republic they were supposed to uphold and defend.
Dear Friend,
Many thanks for your support of our brilliant strategy of sacrificing the Presidential race in order to lure enough moderates to hold the House of Representatives.
Keep that money flowing to us as we further our noble cause of reaching across the great ideological divide to our friends in the Democrat Party in the great American traditions of continual compromise and abandonment of core values.
Sincerely,
Your friends at the RNC
Reagan’s quote at the top of this thread is about the GOP, not the democrats. He worked within the party to change it.
The GOP-e didn’t create a weak field and didn’t cause the notMitt opposition to remain disunified.
Becoming more disunified behind even weaker candidates fixes nothing. It only helps our enemies.
The party ain’t the problem.
Who was your candidate that sacrificed the presidency?
And realizing that you can change the party from within. With strong candidates, hard work and unity.
And if you can't do that within the party, you darn sure can't starting from scratch.
And what do you think the consequences of your actions will be?
There is nothing to disagree with here. Unfortunately, there still seem to be a lot of “nose holder” voters here whom I equate with bratty children holding their breath. They look stupid doing it and it gets them nowhere.
“If Obama wins another term, no other election will matter very much.
Our country will be lost.”
America is not that weak and Obama is not that strong, no matter how many times you panic mongers repeat it.
All you party peon and credulous cultists have are lies, panic, abuse to promote Bishop Willard, a more leftist governor than Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton.
Your party is a sump tank of amoral hacks - just like the Democrats, but older, more withered, and even more incestuous. America is nowhere near finished, but the GOP is.
The “blame” will be off the screen anyway, because Romney has no chance in November. He generates nothing in the way of passion. Have any of us actually heard anyone actually utter the words, “I want Mitt Romney to be my President?”
I drive 35 miles each way to and from work here in southern Virginia. Obama`s “2012” bumper stickers are everywhere. I have yet to see a “Romney” sticker. That`s right.. not a single one.
“No votes for baby killers.”
It is that simple.
Very eloquently put!
Please dear God,
Give Santorum and Gingrich the grace, the strength
NOT to endorse Romney.
Why didn’t the GOP nominate a strong conservative this time?
"This is not a choice between Mitt Romney and Ronald Reagan. This is a choice between Mitt Romney and the most radical, leftist president in American history."
fubo is a socialist
mcromney is a socialist
socialism is the enemy of the republic
if someone supports mcromney, they support socialism
if they support socialism, they are the enemy of the republic
simple logic, applied simply
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