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Maryland Court Rules Pit Bull Dogs Are "Inherently Dangerous"
KWQC.com ^ | May 2, 2012 | David Nelson and MSNBC.com

Posted on 05/03/2012 1:22:20 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

A new ruling makes it easier for anyone attacked by a pit bull or pit bull mix in Maryland to take legal action against the dog's owner. The Maryland Court of Appeals ruling declares pit bulls as a breed are "inherently dangerous," and the owner of a pit bull or a cross-bred pit that attacks is strictly liable for damages, as is any landlord who rents to a pit bull owner.

The Maryland SPCA, which arranges adoptions for dogs that need homes, currently has three pit bulls under its care: a five-month-old Brutus is scheduled to be adopted this week, Ayoki is available and Valentina will be put up for adoption soon. But the SPCA is concerned that it may be harder to find adoptive homes and families may abandon pit bulls after the recent ruling.

"We believe that an animal's behavior should be the determining factor in whether or not the animal is considered dangerous," said Cheryl Bernard Smith, of SPCA. "We don't believe that a particular breed should be pinpointed for that." "All dogs, if you don't train them and show them love, can turn out to be mean animals," said Rodney Taylor, of Prince George's County Animal Management. "It has a lot to do with the owner and how you raise the pet."

The Maryland Court of Appeals decision dealt with the case of a young boy who suffered life-threatening injuries when he was attacked by a pit bull.

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1 posted on 05/03/2012 1:22:34 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Abundy; Albion Wilde; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; bayliving; BFM; cindy-true-supporter; ...

Maryland “Freak State” PING!


2 posted on 05/03/2012 1:25:17 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
"It has a lot to do with the owner and how you raise the pet."
3 posted on 05/03/2012 1:26:58 PM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Could we get a similar ruling about socialists?

ML/NJ

4 posted on 05/03/2012 1:29:16 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: rarestia

Yeah, but for some reason its hard to turn an Irish Setter into a killer.


5 posted on 05/03/2012 1:30:17 PM PDT by running_dog_lackey
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To: rarestia

And the dog’s biting power ~ you won’t see those dudes who like the Pits walking around with a Chihuahua will you.


6 posted on 05/03/2012 1:30:34 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Calling The Dog Whisperer.


7 posted on 05/03/2012 1:30:47 PM PDT by C19fan
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To: AnAmericanMother; Titan Magroyne; Badeye; SandRat; arbooz; potlatch; afraidfortherepublic; ...
WOOOF!

The Doggie Ping list is for FReepers who would like to be notified of threads relating to all things canid. If you would like to join the Doggie Ping Pack (or be unleashed from it), FReemail me.

8 posted on 05/03/2012 1:30:47 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

But much safer than Maryland politicians...


9 posted on 05/03/2012 1:33:26 PM PDT by LambSlave
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Good ruling. The statistics clearly show that Pit Bulls are far, far more likely to cause death or serious injuries than any other type of dog.

To Pit Bull owners who will argue that their dogs are “good dogs”, I’d say then you have nothing to worry about from this ruling as your “good dogs” will never hurt or kill anyone, so liability won’t be an issue for you.


10 posted on 05/03/2012 1:33:35 PM PDT by Above My Pay Grade (The candidate I vote for will NOT have a CARE after his name.)
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To: running_dog_lackey
Yeah, but for some reason its hard to turn an Irish Setter into a killer.

Or a Boxer,


or a Standard Poodle

11 posted on 05/03/2012 1:36:54 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: running_dog_lackey
Yeah, but for some reason its hard to turn an Irish Setter into a killer.

Wanna bet?

12 posted on 05/03/2012 1:40:09 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I’ve known some Pit Bulls that are sweet and cudly..
BUT... with Pit Bulls(and some other dogs) they can become beasts..

Something, who knows what, can cause them morph into “animals”.. not pets..
Totally pissed off and highly aggressive..

One minute sweet and the next monsters.. that IS the problem..
Pitt Bulls are the democrats of dogs..

One minute patriotic and the next treasonous enemies..
Riding your leg one minute and tearing your arm off the next..
If you have a democrat in your household(dog or human)..
keep a rolled up Newspaper handy.. -OR- if your really smart a 9mm gun...

Like they say, you never know when they will go off on you..


13 posted on 05/03/2012 1:41:43 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
But how do they taste? DC resident wants to know.

ML/NJ

14 posted on 05/03/2012 1:42:07 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Joe 6-pack; Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I’ve never met a pitbull I didnt like. The dog in “The Little Rascals” was a pitbull.

I love the breed, and some day, I hope to own one. They are only vicious if they are trained to be so, as is with any breed.

I would be hard-pressed to choose between a pitbull, a dobie and a German Shepherd!


15 posted on 05/03/2012 1:42:52 PM PDT by Monkey Face (Four main food groups: chocolate, champagne, strawberries and chocolate. {le me})
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

So apparently are the idiot judges and legislators that come from MerryLand, but I don’t see anyone proposing the same solution for them.
First, they came for the dogs...


16 posted on 05/03/2012 1:44:49 PM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Which would you feel more comfortable placing in an infant's crib?

Case closed.


17 posted on 05/03/2012 1:45:28 PM PDT by I see my hands (If you say what you think then no one will like you.)
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To: BigEdLB

Dogs are only as good as they are loved into being.


18 posted on 05/03/2012 1:47:17 PM PDT by Monkey Face (Four main food groups: chocolate, champagne, strawberries and chocolate. {le me})
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To: BigEdLB
or a Standard Poodle

My Mom had a little toy poodle, it was the shakiest, most timid afraid of it's own Shadow dog I have ever seen.

But let her see an opossum come into the yard and she became vicious and would attack it like a raving mad dog.

Funniest dang thing I ever saw.

Still gives me chuckles.

19 posted on 05/03/2012 1:48:27 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
A breed's popularity destroys it. Happened to the German Shepard in the 60s. Dobes in 70s. Rottys in 80s. Now Pit Bulls. Inexperienced breeders mate brother to sister. They breed known vicious dogs with others. Intensifies the bad points as well as the good.

When purchasing such a breed, best to go to a proven kennel. Not a puppy mill type op.

20 posted on 05/03/2012 1:50:24 PM PDT by donozark (Marg Helgenberger! Wherever you are! What the hell do I do with all these DNA samples you requested?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

We rescued a female pit bull last year and she is the biggest baby and cuddlebug you ever met. It’s my third pit in 30 years and never any problem - except for the guy who tried to break into my car one evening. Those who call for extermination of the breed are just ignorant fools with big mouths.


21 posted on 05/03/2012 1:50:39 PM PDT by dainbramaged (OMG - Obama Must Go)
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To: hosepipe
Riding your leg one minute and tearing your arm off the next..

I heard they would only tear your arm off if you didn't let them finish humping your leg ;)

22 posted on 05/03/2012 1:51:33 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks


Is this a case of canine profiling?
23 posted on 05/03/2012 1:53:58 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: ml/nj

Why they taste “delicious”, don’t you know? At least, according to USA’s number one dog flesh connoisseur/cannibal.


24 posted on 05/03/2012 1:54:19 PM PDT by izzatzo (Just beat Obama.)
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To: I see my hands

You’re right, look at the imminent danger these babies are in because of pit bulls:

http://www.google.com/imgres?um=1&hl=en&sa=N&biw=1280&bih=889&tbm=isch&tbnid=V4i3aGG3VPfUoM:&imgrefurl=http://www.pitbulls.org/blog/10-most-dangerous-pit-bulls-existence&docid=wf4lzklBv8gTuM&imgurl=http://www.pitbulls.org/sites/default/files/imagecache/contest_entry/contests/children-and-babies/picniclunchwithg-mapaine055.jpg&w=500&h=374&ei=8—iT6mSJ4KN6QHnqeWCCQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=637&vpy=357&dur=1717&hovh=194&hovw=260&tx=172&ty=108&sig=106477596081804972431&page=1&tbnh=161&tbnw=225&start=0&ndsp=20&ved=1t:429,r:7,s:0,i:98

http://www.google.com/imgres?um=1&hl=en&sa=N&biw=1280&bih=889&tbm=isch&tbnid=SwBiROjjKVvp_M:&imgrefurl=http://www.ywgrossman.com/newblog/%3Fattachment_id%3D470&docid=X7y_nH_eFI2KcM&imgurl=http://www.ywgrossman.com/newblog/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/pit-bull-and-baby-e1311277414665.jpg&w=450&h=337&ei=8—iT6mSJ4KN6QHnqeWCCQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=589&vpy=590&dur=271&hovh=150&hovw=200&tx=88&ty=119&sig=106477596081804972431&page=2&tbnh=150&tbnw=200&start=20&ndsp=27&ved=1t:429,r:8,s:20,i:151

http://www.google.com/imgres?um=1&hl=en&sa=N&biw=1280&bih=889&tbm=isch&tbnid=SwBiROjjKVvp_M:&imgrefurl=http://www.ywgrossman.com/newblog/%3Fattachment_id%3D470&docid=X7y_nH_eFI2KcM&imgurl=http://www.ywgrossman.com/newblog/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/pit-bull-and-baby-e1311277414665.jpg&w=450&h=337&ei=8—iT6mSJ4KN6QHnqeWCCQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=589&vpy=590&dur=271&hovh=150&hovw=200&tx=88&ty=119&sig=106477596081804972431&page=2&tbnh=150&tbnw=200&start=20&ndsp=27&ved=1t:429,r:8,s:20,i:151

The babies’ parents need to be hauled off to jail right now for severe child endangerment. Of course, placing a gun in a baby’s crib is also severe child neglect-how can you possibly expect the baby to be able to figure out how to use it without it accidentally going off.


25 posted on 05/03/2012 1:55:54 PM PDT by emax
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To: Above My Pay Grade

Actually, pit bulls have been found to be the least likely to bite people in tests of dog breeds-at least when they’re raised the same way as other breeds. I am not quite sure what kind of studies showed them to be more dangerous. In one test of dog breeds, ranking most to least likely to bite people, pit bulls ranked fourth from the bottom. Poodles and Golden Retrievers and I think even Labradors all ranked higher.


26 posted on 05/03/2012 1:58:03 PM PDT by emax
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To: rarestia
"It has a lot to do with the owner and how you raise the pet."

The problem with this statement is that it implies that ALL Golden Retriever Owners and All Irish Setter Owners, all train their dogs properly.
Yes Virginia, there is such a thing has an unstable Breed of K9.
We've had our dog for a little over a year now and she has been attacked 4 times. All Pit-bulls. And every Pit owner looked at me and declared that their dog has never done that before.
Well perhaps they didn't, but they have now.
Go look in the nearest SPCA Kennel. They are filled mostly with Pit-bulls who's previous owners didn't understand what they were getting into. I feel pitty for those dogs having to live that way.
All due to the Vanity of Humanity. Me and my walking set of "Power Jaws". Be Afraid. Be very Afraid.

27 posted on 05/03/2012 1:59:26 PM PDT by Falcon4.0
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To: ml/nj

I had that same thought... Kudos!


28 posted on 05/03/2012 2:01:27 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: emax

Not sure I agree with the premise, but I have known some nasty poodles in my time... if they put a poodle’s brain into a pit bulls body it would be a monster to be sure...

Might be a grade b horror movie in that somewhere...


29 posted on 05/03/2012 2:06:42 PM PDT by AnTiw1 (Men who stand firm against an army of thousands, run when a tiger appears among them. ~ShirKhan~)
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To: emax
"You’re right"

I didn't make a statement, I asked a question. You provided links and wrote stuff.. but no answer!


30 posted on 05/03/2012 2:10:18 PM PDT by I see my hands (If you say what you think then no one will like you.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Ludicrous. The pit bull is no more inherently dangerous than any of the breed distilled from the extinct "Alaunt" war dogs, from the Great Dane to the St. Barnard to the boxers, for crying out loud.

This is saying the breed is tantamount to being a separate species. They might as well "rule" 2 plus 2 = 4, "except when it equals five.

There really is a thin line between the courts working cases of "first impression" and magical thinking.

31 posted on 05/03/2012 2:10:49 PM PDT by Prospero
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

32 posted on 05/03/2012 2:11:15 PM PDT by evets (beer)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Here's my enforcer:



Sir Winston S. Churchill

Nine pounds of joy!



Nos genuflectitur ad non princeps sed Princeps Pacem!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

33 posted on 05/03/2012 2:11:29 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: Monkey Face
>>”only vicious if they are trained to be”>>>>>

That is absolutely not true. Some dogs are mean biters from the time they are puppies. Mine were always treated well. I have had at least 2 that fit this category. One was a West Highland White Terrier and the other was a Jack Russel. The Westie ran off and was killed by a cow that he attacked in the pasture and the Jack lived to be 14 when his biting got so bad I put him down. (Can't imagine how I put up with him so long). They were both small dogs so I could control them most of the time. If either had been pitt bulls someone would be dead.

34 posted on 05/03/2012 2:13:55 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: I see my hands

Well ok then, although when you said “case closed” I presumed you were implicitly making a statement. If you were asking a question, well a pit bull raised by responsible owner, just like any other dog should be, would clearly be preferable to leaving a gun in a baby’s crib. An abused, badly raised pitbull trained to fight-well that would be worse than a gun but both would likely lead to a sort of negligent homicide.


35 posted on 05/03/2012 2:15:40 PM PDT by emax
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I would add that mom’s live-in boyfriend is just as dangerous.


36 posted on 05/03/2012 2:18:07 PM PDT by Scarpetta (e pluribus victim)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Complete. Total. Unequivocal. Bullshit. Lies.


37 posted on 05/03/2012 2:18:24 PM PDT by Lil Flower (American by birth. Southern by the Grace of God! ROLL TIDE!!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I have a shelter pet dog we adopted. I have absolutely no idea what she is in terms of the breed mix. My best guess is German Shepherd and some type of bull terrier. But everywhere I take her people keep asking me “is she part Pit Bull?”

I guess she has some physical resemblances to a Pit, but I honestly don’t know. She is such a sweetie it is really hard to imagine that she is. I would have no idea whether this law applies to me or not.


38 posted on 05/03/2012 2:19:29 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

You can have your dog DNA tested to find out what the breeds are.


39 posted on 05/03/2012 2:22:37 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: emax

Every year Pit Bulls account for anywhere 50% to 70% of all dog bite fatalities. Rotties generally account for most of the rest.

Dog bites and serious injuries and fatalities from dog attacks are totally different issues. A Yorkie might be more likely to bite than a Pit Bull, but I’d rather suffer or have my children suffer through 100 Yorkie “attacks” than 1 Pit Bull attack.

I am not aware of the study you mention. I know there is a commonly cited temprament test, where Pit Bulls did favorably, but those results have no statistical significance as the samples are anything but random. The problem is that all the dogs are brought in voluntarily for testing. Most people with dogs they know to have problem tempraments are not going to have their dogs tested, so the results by breed are meaningless.

The fact that most shelters have more Pit Bulls than all other dogs combined is another indication of how problematic they are.

I realize there are good Pit Bulls and this ruling in now way punishes them or their owners. If you are the owner of a well bred, well trained, well socialized, well supervised Pit Bull, the chances of an attack are very small, so liability won’t be an issue.

Unfortunatley, only a very small percentage of Pit Bulls are well bred, socialiazed, trained and cared for. Only a small percentage of dog owners have the experience, skill, assertiveness and responsbility to safely own Pit Bulls. They are extraordiary dogs that require extraordinary owners.

The responsibility of owning a Pit Bull is closer to that of owning an a wild animal, capable of killing, than it is to that of owning a Beagle or a Golden Retriever.


40 posted on 05/03/2012 2:23:15 PM PDT by Above My Pay Grade (The candidate I vote for will NOT have a CARE after his name.)
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To: emax
"when you said “case closed” I presumed you were implicitly making a statement."

That's fair enough. Thanks for calling me on it.


41 posted on 05/03/2012 2:23:26 PM PDT by I see my hands (If you say what you think then no one will like you.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

We need a court to tell us that?

Everyody knows it already!


42 posted on 05/03/2012 2:24:01 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: hosepipe

Almost everything you said is horse shit. I’ve got a 6 yr old pit bull who has never been anything but sweet! There is no “turning on you” bull crap. He’s been the same dog since I rescued him.
He in turn rescued me many times over.


43 posted on 05/03/2012 2:25:38 PM PDT by Lil Flower (American by birth. Southern by the Grace of God! ROLL TIDE!!)
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To: Above My Pay Grade

Yeah, we need more laws, particularly BS legislation: `breed specific legislation’. Maryland, the rotting California of the east coast, says so. With more laws, why, there should be less crime: like gun control in Chicago.
Forget about Rottweilers, Dobermans, Akitas, Great Danes, German Shepherds, St. Bernards, et cetera and so forth and so on, and the terriers proper, and forget that the breed most likely to bite is the effervescent dachsund.
Set aside the invidious breed discrimination and forget that there are several types of `pit bull’ terriers, and several types of bulldogs, and that the majority of dogs awaiting death in animal shelters are some mixture of `pit bull terrier’ so that the law is vague to the point of being unenforceable, or gives government carte blanche to serve as President Obama’s rolling meat wagon.
That must be it: Zero is next door and he’s a-hongry. More laws: good!


44 posted on 05/03/2012 2:26:12 PM PDT by tumblindice (Our new, happy lives.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
I have a shelter pet dog we adopted. I have absolutely no idea what she is in terms of the breed mix. My best guess is German Shepherd and some type of bull terrier. But everywhere I take her people keep asking me “is she part Pit Bull?”

I guess she has some physical resemblances to a Pit, but I honestly don’t know. She is such a sweetie it is really hard to imagine that she is. I would have no idea whether this law applies to me or not.


Same here. I rescued a pup from the local county shelter here in Oregon. He obviously has some Pit in him, but when he's alongside a purebred, one can readily tell that he's half of less because he's too small and though his head is shaped like the Pit, it's not massive enough.

I didn't "crossbreed" him. I guess were I living in Maryland, that the county would be liable for giving me this monster of sweetheart should he suddenly go completely out of character and get aggressive.
45 posted on 05/03/2012 2:34:30 PM PDT by Goldsborough
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To: Monkey Face
They are only vicious if they are trained to be so, as is with any breed.

Really? So, the 20 something year old girl whose pit bull I witnessed attack a 10 year old Black Lab at a local family park, without provication, was trained by the petite 20 something year old to be vicious? Note of caution, be careful with making generalities. Yes, some people do train their dogs to be vicious. However, that does not mean that a pit bull who isn't "trained" to be vicious won't attack other animals or people. Regardless, the issue has more to do with the danger presented with the level of damage that this breed can inflict moreso than whether any particular pit bull is or is not vicious.

Any breed of dog may bite or attack. The damage inflicted by a chihuahua who attacks is not in the same league as that of larger dogs, including pit bulls. And, some breeds are by their nature less likely to be vicious than other breeds. For me the issue comes down to the owner of the dog. If someone has a dog that does have a reputation of being dangerous, that owner has a greater responsibility to maintain control over their animal.

46 posted on 05/03/2012 2:34:51 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: Joe 6-pack
"See! ...See! ...I Tried To Tell You Freepers!"

-Chett99-

47 posted on 05/03/2012 2:36:17 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Ditter

Dogs are only a reflection of their owners.

One doesn’t “Control” dogs. One allows the dog to be who it was meant to be.

Not sure if I like your attitude about critters in your life.
It seems you want more than the critters can give. Don’t be such a perfectionist!


48 posted on 05/03/2012 2:37:00 PM PDT by Monkey Face (Four main food groups: chocolate, champagne, strawberries and chocolate. {le me})
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To: tumblindice

1) Breed “discrimination” makes sense because most breeds will NEVER or almost never kill or critically injure anyone. A few other breeds (including some you mentioned) do rarely cause such harm. Pit Bulls and to a lesser extent Rottweilers are responsible for the vast majority of dog bit fatalities. How many people were killed by Daschunds last year or in the last 30 years for that matter.

For the law to treat Pit Bulls the same as Beagles or Poodles would be as ridiculous as requiring the same training, licensing and insurance for a 4 year old riding a tricycle and a truck driver hauling hazardous materials.

2) All this ruling does is hold Pit Bull owners strictly liable for damage caused by their dogs. If your Pit Bull is a “good dog” and doesn’t harm anybody, this ruling will not affect you at all.


49 posted on 05/03/2012 2:45:03 PM PDT by Above My Pay Grade (The candidate I vote for will NOT have a CARE after his name.)
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To: Above My Pay Grade
The responsibility of owning a Pit Bull is closer to that of owning an a wild animal, capable of killing, than it is to that of owning a Beagle or a Golden Retriever.

But of course there is the odd Beagle owner, such as the one that goes to the same park as Rufus ((see smiling red poodle earlier in the thread)) and I for a `stretch` of the paws. Rufus has the most expressive face I have ever seen in a dog, and scarey smart... and when this beagle guy comes to the park and lets the beagle drag him form tree to tree???? The first time I ever saw a WTF expression on Rufus' face is the first time he saw this Beagle and his `keeper` running from tree to tree, beagle carrying on like a real nutcase... Some times dog owners are truly clueless as to how incredibly weird they can appear....
50 posted on 05/03/2012 2:45:11 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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