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Documentary ‘The War on Kids’ compares U.S. public schools to prison system
Foxnews,com ^ | May 03, 2012 | By Hollie McKay

Posted on 05/03/2012 6:26:48 AM PDT by US Navy Vet

Are public schools becoming more and more like prisons?

That’s what the documentary “The War on Kids” says.

Based on interviews with educators, medical professionals, students and sociologists, the documentary, which received a limited film festival run in 2009 and is being released this week on the Documentary Channel, paints the picture of an increasingly authoritarian and paranoid school system that is failing its students, stripping them of their civil liberties and constitutional rights.

“Kids have no voice. Everyone pretends to care, but it is never true, and it’s the children who are being blamed for all the failings in the education system,” filmmaker Cevin Soling told FOX411’s Pop Tarts column. “People do not learn when they are in such an autocratic environment

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: homeschooling; learning; propagandacenters; publicschools; teaching; unions
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To: Westbrook

Your post says it all. Thank you. For any conservative
Christian parent who thinks public school won’t harm their child, they need to view the documentary “Indoctrination”.


81 posted on 05/06/2012 6:52:27 PM PDT by UnRuley1
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To: UnRuley1

Well, Amen.

I haven’t seen the documentary “Indoctrination”, but I’m going to look it up.


82 posted on 05/06/2012 7:13:09 PM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Gabz

And ...you refuse to admit that government schools are likely the **least** “public” institution in our nation. Is there any other institution ( private or public) so widespread and pervasive in its restriction?


83 posted on 05/06/2012 7:41:55 PM PDT by wintertime (Reforming a government K-12 school is like reforming an abortion center.)
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To: Westbrook

I could lend you my copy if you lived in the Phoenix area. I got my copy on Amazon. Also, check out books written by John Taylor Gatto. His book “Weapons of mass instruction” is excellent. Unfortunately books and DVDs critical of the government schools are not available at the public library. I wonder why??


84 posted on 05/06/2012 7:48:09 PM PDT by UnRuley1
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To: wintertime

You have totally missed the point of my comment. It has nothing to do with schools, as I clearly stated I wasn’t getting into that argument. Of course you choose to ignore that FACT in your effort to claim you are the all knowing about everything.

You are a statist who equates private businesses with government operations and refuse to acknowledge the error of your ways. In no way, shape or form is a PRIVATELY owned McDonald’s the equivalent of a state or federal park.

Based upon your position that equates the two different entities, nothing you say can be given any credibility. You obviously prefer government control of private entities. Anyone who considers a private enterprise to be no different than a government entity is no conservative.

You have shown your true colors here, as so many of us knew you would eventually do.


85 posted on 05/06/2012 8:34:02 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: wintertime; Gabz; trisham
All government owned and run schools are **government** schools. They are NOT NOT NOT “public” in any manner. The government strictly controls and restricts those who will be allowed to enroll or leave their government assigned school.

This is an out right lie.

Public school are required to admit any and all students that apply and live within that district. You need to learn something about education Law. at the same time any student that has reached the age of 16 has the option to drop out.

Now that being said Students can be removed from public schools at the schools discretion for behavioral reasons but these are few and far between.

Frankly as I have told you on previous occasions I have a number of students that should be removed.

86 posted on 05/07/2012 2:03:29 AM PDT by verga (Party like it is 1773)
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To: wintertime; Gabz
And....Government school boards do **exactly** that! “Public” school? Hardly! Government socialist-entitement, single-payer, and godless schools rank among the **most** restrictive institutions in America ( public or private).

Document this or retract it. And for the record you have made the claim that public schools are compulsory, now you say they are restrictive. You do realize that those statements are mutually exclusive and contradict each other?

87 posted on 05/07/2012 2:15:31 AM PDT by verga (Party like it is 1773)
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To: UnRuley1

I’ll pull it down to my kindle app. Thanks!

> Unfortunately books and DVDs critical of the government
> schools are not available at the public library. I wonder
> why??

LOL!


88 posted on 05/07/2012 2:58:08 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: verga
Unless a parent can ransom a child through home or private schooling, the government will dictate and **force** a child to attend the school the government chooses. Parents and the child have no say in the matter.

( Ask any child or parent who was forced into busing.)

Gee! And....Can you imagine a federal or state park or Mc Donalds saying, “You can't enter because you don't live in a specific “People's Zone”.

89 posted on 05/07/2012 5:27:21 AM PDT by wintertime (Reforming a government K-12 school is like reforming an abortion center.)
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To: Gabz
Please look the meaning of the word, “public”, in the dictionary. You will see that it applies to both private and public entities.

For example, Mc Donalds stock is sold to the public. Even a newborn in the provinces of Guatemala can be a part owner of Mc Donalds.

Unlike socialist-entitlement and single payer government owned and run schools, your local amusement park is has public admission. Anyone from anywhere can attend. They don't need to live in a specified Peoples’ Socialist District. Unlike the socialist-entitlement and single payer government owned and run school, it isn't going to use the threat of police action to FORCE people to use its facilities.

Finally, there is NO other institution so pervasively, profoundly ( and on such a grand scale impacting 49 million children and their families) that is as racially and class segregated as our nation's government owned and run socialist-entitlement and single payer K-12 schools. It is a national disgrace.

90 posted on 05/07/2012 5:49:12 AM PDT by wintertime (Reforming a government K-12 school is like reforming an abortion center.)
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To: wintertime

You remain wrong. Public and private entities are not equivalent. That you are incapable of understanding that concept astounds me.

The sale of McDonald’s stock to the public is a choice made by the owners and the purchase is an individual choice. The purchase of “stock” by the public of a state or federal park is mandated.


91 posted on 05/07/2012 6:26:38 AM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: wintertime; Gabz
Unless a parent can ransom a child through home or private schooling, the government will dictate and **force** a child to attend the school the government chooses. Parents and the child have no say in the matter. ( Ask any child or parent who was forced into busing.) Gee! And....Can you imagine a federal or state park or Mc Donalds saying, “You can't enter because you don't live in a specific “People's Zone”.

I love the fact that you personally do more to hurt your cause then anyone could possibly imagine. You are a gift that keeps on giving to public education. Keep ranting it makes the rest of the world look reasonable and intelligent.

92 posted on 05/07/2012 6:51:26 AM PDT by verga (Party like it is 1773)
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To: Gabz

You remain wrong. Public and private entities are not equivalent.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Obviously, they are not, but both can be fully open to public use. And....Please look up the definition of “public”. You will see that it can, and is, used to describe private institutions as well as government entities, depending upon the circumstances.


93 posted on 05/07/2012 6:24:30 PM PDT by wintertime (Reforming a government K-12 school is like reforming an abortion center.)
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To: verga
Verga, I am more than rewarded when my sentences and phrases are picked up and used by major editorialists.
94 posted on 05/07/2012 6:27:34 PM PDT by wintertime (Reforming a government K-12 school is like reforming an abortion center.)
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To: wintertime
...........depending upon the circumstances.

That is correct - but that is not what you originally said when you equated a private business with a government entity:

From your post at #73:

A good example of “public” would be Mc Donalds or a state or federal park. There anyone can use the facility regardless of age, gender, race, or religion.

You stated they are the same, when they obviously are not as I pointed out to you in my original post from last night that the owner of a McDonald's is perfectly within his/her rights to restrict who may use the facility.

I stand by my original criticism that you were wrong when you equated private enterprise with government run operations. That you continued to insist you were correct gave me all the proof I needed to determine you are a statist and not a conservative.

Trying to turn this around as being a mistake on my part is not going to work this time - because now you are saying what I was saying from the beginning.

Your chutzpa never ceases to amaze me - but I refuse to allow you to get away with nonsense any longer.

You knew I was correct all along but will never admit that you, yourself, are capable of ever making a mistake or can actually just be plain wrong. Further proof to me you are no conservative. You are actually no different than those most on this site seek to remove from power. I say "most" because there are quite a few other statists like you around here who rail against overbearing government, except when the same suits their interests and wants.

Here's a little tip - get rid of the chip on your shoulder, maybe then more people would take you seriously.

95 posted on 05/07/2012 7:02:28 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: wintertime
Verga, I am more than rewarded when my sentences and phrases are picked up and used by major editorialists.

Still waiting on you to answer the questions in psot number #52. You really like to dodge the questons that present the real you don't you?

96 posted on 05/07/2012 7:06:48 PM PDT by verga (Party like it is 1773)
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To: wintertime; verga
Verga, I am more than rewarded when my sentences and phrases are picked up and used by major editorialists.

Unless they are directly attributed to you, you can claim this until the cows come home and it still doesn't mean a hill of beans. I can claim you took the words and phrases from those editorialists to use here and you will be unable to prove me wrong - unless they are directly attributed to you. Of course that would be unknown to anyone here because you are too afraid to identify yourself.

There's the difference between you and me. When my words are "picked up" by any media outlet it is due to one of two things. Either I have been interviewed by them, or I have signed my full name, not just my nickname*, to something I have written.

*Gabz is my nickname, has been since I was a baby. I've never hidden my identity here. That you are unaware of that is understandable considering there is a nearly 6 year difference in our memberships. Of course I don't go off half cocked and say things to people online that I would not say to their face in person, thus my lack of a need to be anonymous. I also accept full responsibility for my comments and have no problems admitting when I have been wrong. All of which can not be said about you.

97 posted on 05/07/2012 7:33:19 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Gabz; wintertime
Unless they are directly attributed to you, you can claim this until the cows come home and it still doesn't mean a hill of beans.

ROFL And given that the little automatons all have the exact same canned speeches it could be attributed to any of them.

Looks like ole winter didn't just get schooled, she got PUBLIC schooled!

98 posted on 05/08/2012 6:23:11 AM PDT by verga (Party like it is 1773)
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To: verga; wintertime
Looks like ole winter didn't just get schooled, she got PUBLIC schooled!

Now that's just down right funny!!!!!

I knew when I originally wrote the post it would get no response from our friend wintertime. Par for the course :-)

99 posted on 05/08/2012 4:59:39 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Gabz
Alinsky: Descredit the message by attempting to discredit the messenger.

Gabz and Verga....Freepers are very smart. They immediately recognize this debating tactic and will judge those that use this accordingly.

Verga: Being a highly educated teaching professional, with a newly minted masters degree in education, I trust that you would **never** use this Alinsky debating tactic on emotionally and educationally immature students who are in a position of inferior power. To do so would be child abuse.

No, no,....Teaching “professionals’ would never never do that to children.

100 posted on 05/08/2012 8:14:25 PM PDT by wintertime (Reforming a government K-12 school is like reforming an abortion center.)
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