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APNewsBreak: Protection sought for rare woodpecker [More forest fires needed!]
Associated Press ^ | May 2, 2012, 7:04 PM EDT | SCOTT SONNER

Posted on 05/02/2012 6:04:42 PM PDT by Hunton Peck

Smokey Bear has done such a good job stamping out forest fires the past half-century that a woodpecker that's survived for millions of years by eating beetle larvae in burned trees is in danger of going extinct in parts of the West, according to conservationists seeking U.S. protection for the bird.

Four conservation groups filed a petition with the U.S. Interior Department on Wednesday to list the black-backed woodpecker under the Endangered Species Act in the Sierra Nevada, Oregon's Eastern Cascades and the Black Hills of eastern Wyoming and western South Dakota.

It is the first federal petition to recognize the ecological significance and seek protection of post-fire habitat, an expert said.

In addition to fire suppression, the groups contend post-fire salvage logging combined with commercial thinning of green forests is eliminating what little remains of the bird's habitat, mostly in national forests where it has no legal protection.

"Intensely burned forest habitat not only has no legal protection, but standard practice on private and public lands is to actively eliminate it," the petition said. "When fire and insect outbreaks create excellent woodpecker habitat, salvage logging promptly destroys it."

Chad Hanson, executive director the Earth Island's John Muir Project based in Cedar Ridge, Calif., filed the petition Wednesday with the Interior Department's U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service in Sacramento. Co-petitioners are the Center for Biological Diversity based in Tucson, Ariz., the Blue Mountains Biodiversity Project in Fossil, Ore., and the Biodiversity Conservation Alliance in Laramie, Wyo.

Hanson, a wildlife ecologist at the University of California, Davis, said the black-backed woodpecker has been eating beetles in fire-killed stands of conifer forests for millions of years and specifically in North American forests for "many thousand years - since the last Ice Age."

"Now, it's very rare," he said.

The best science suggests...

(Excerpt) Read more at hosted.ap.org ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: environmentalism; forestfires; logging; woodpecker
More from the ever-expanding list of impending environmental catastrophes...
1 posted on 05/02/2012 6:04:49 PM PDT by Hunton Peck
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To: Hunton Peck

Logging and controlled burns in northern michigan brought the Kirtland Warbler back from the brink of extinction.

In the 50s there were a handful of breeding pairs nesting in a 3000 acre tract in northern Michigan and now they’re turning up in the upper peninsula and in Wisconsin.

Profitable human activity saved them from extinction.


2 posted on 05/02/2012 6:09:31 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Hunton Peck
I guess these people will never be happy until we leave one human on the earth as a caretaker and the rest of us just get off of the earth.

Sheesh! It is not our jobs to adapt to critters, it is their job to adapt to us!

3 posted on 05/02/2012 6:10:02 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: Hunton Peck

They can come down to Texas. We have plenty of burned timber from last years wildfires.


4 posted on 05/02/2012 6:15:42 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Hunton Peck; george76; Flycatcher; girlangler
The peckerwood’s trying to protect the woodpecker in this manner are enviro-nazis willing to let healthy forests be destroyed by insect infestations.
5 posted on 05/02/2012 6:16:47 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: Hunton Peck; fieldmarshaldj; Impy; GOPsterinMA; AuntB; Liz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeldv48RGv8


6 posted on 05/02/2012 6:19:37 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (A liberal's compassion is limited to the size of other peoples' paychecks)
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To: Hunton Peck

rare unless they vote DEMOCRAT


7 posted on 05/02/2012 6:23:32 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11 0bie don' t eat my dog!)
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To: jazusamo

the Biodiversity Conservation Alliance is in for the money ?


8 posted on 05/02/2012 6:25:03 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Hunton Peck

9 posted on 05/02/2012 6:25:25 PM PDT by Doogle (((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: SunkenCiv; SJackson

Outdoor/environmental ping


10 posted on 05/02/2012 6:39:42 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: Doogle

Most of the National Forest in the west are ready for the great burn...the bark beetle has killed millions of acres of trees...but I think the bark battle must be an endangered??


11 posted on 05/02/2012 6:40:56 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hunton Peck

This first thing we should do is find all of the scientists and environuts who want this bird to be protected. Then we have their homes or residences burned to the ground. Next, declare their properties an environmental refuge for the next million years with no development allowed whatsoever. Then force them to live in thatch huts and cannot have any modern conveniences at all.

Some one has to make the sacrifice for these birds, right? Let those who worship them be the first to do so.


12 posted on 05/02/2012 6:50:21 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: jazusamo

The mountain pine beetle’s natural controls are Cold winters and Forest fires, the woodpeckers just get the leftovers.


13 posted on 05/02/2012 6:52:05 PM PDT by chemical_boy
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To: Clintonfatigued

Cuando me haga ping, ping a mi favor en español. Gracias!


14 posted on 05/02/2012 7:40:38 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (The stench of Earth Pimp-age is permeating over the internet...)
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To: Hunton Peck

A short intro, then a lot of words/big buildup, and boffo finish:
Then the black-backed, beetle-eating woodpecker turned to the Ivory billed woodpecker and the red headed woodpecker and said,

“Gee guys, I dunno about beech or birch, or beetles, but that’s the best piece of ash I’ve ever had my pecker in.”

http://indianajones.smugmug.com/BirdsofIndiana-1/Woodpeckers-All-seven-species/Red-Headed-Woodpecker/71247670_ekQMF-L.jpg


15 posted on 05/02/2012 7:46:52 PM PDT by tumblindice (He walks, he talks, he crawls on his belly like a rrrrrrrrreptile--Mitt Romney)
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To: Hunton Peck

AT least those birds really exist. Here in Arkansas, some yahoo takes some grainy movie footage of a Pileated woodpecker, claimed it was a formerly believed extinct Ivory Billed Woodpecker (there was not enough detail in the bad video to make a positive ID), and vast acres were shut down to a lot of the former use.

Millions of dollars and many teams from some of the top Universities and other research organizations have come in and combed the area and have found ZERO evidence of an Ivory Bill. Lots of Pileated, which look very similar to it (and indeed - there is a natural color phase that looks a LOT like the Ivory Bill). Further, the place where the footage was supposedly taken does not match the normal environment the Ivory Bill favored - but it does fit perfectly the preferred habitat for... Pileated Woodpeckers.

But much like the hoax formerly known as “Manmade Global Warming”, those with power just won’t let go.


16 posted on 05/02/2012 7:47:25 PM PDT by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: tumblindice

Har!

(BTW, the ‘peckers in question are no kin of mine!)


17 posted on 05/02/2012 7:52:55 PM PDT by Hunton Peck (See my FR homepage for a list of businesses that support WI Gov. Scott Walker)
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To: TheBattman

I’d heard that someone claimed to have discovered IBWs down there & had suspicions about the motives.

I was doing a little research on black bears recently, and found that they’re now classified into a wide range of “subspecies” based on slight color variations. Not surprisingly, several of those “subspecies” are listed as endangered or threatened on either the state or federal level, even where the species itself is abundant.

I wonder what industries were emerging in all those areas where the “subspecies” were suddenly “discovered”...


18 posted on 05/02/2012 8:01:06 PM PDT by Hunton Peck (See my FR homepage for a list of businesses that support WI Gov. Scott Walker)
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To: Hunton Peck

Just cause a bunch of scientist can’t find them doesn’t mean they are endangered. Just like the spotted owl they may not be looking that hard due to their agenda driven science.

Pray for America


19 posted on 05/02/2012 9:21:23 PM PDT by bray (Power to We the People)
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To: Hunton Peck

Strange. There have been quite a few major fires throughout the west in the last twenty years.


20 posted on 05/02/2012 9:30:08 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: jazusamo; Hunton Peck; Doogle; george76; girlangler
The enviro-nazi groups are doing it again. They're trying to use the Endangered SPECIES Act on a SUB-SPECIES, which is simply an isolated or slightly variable RACE of a species (as Hunton Peck points out in his post on the black bear, and as Doogle points out in his range map from the Thayer software from Cornell Lab).

I would say that this is a travesty, but the sad fact remains that if the enviro-nazis succeed in using the ESA on sub-species and races, virtually ALL human development will come to a complete standstill.

But, of course, that's what these anti-human groups want. And I have no faith in the 9th Circuit to end these lawsuits either. This is a very dangerous, destructive precedent (if these kook environmentalists win).

Thanks for the ping, Jaz! I'm back for a couple days but I'm off to the field again on Sunday.

21 posted on 05/04/2012 6:48:13 AM PDT by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: Flycatcher
Thanks for your take on it, Fly. I suspected that was what was going on but my knowledge is very limited on our feathered friends.

Your statement regarding the ESA on sub-species and human development is so true, that has been the intention of the eco-freaks for way too many years. I wouldn't want to even try to guess the dollar amount they've cost this country in use of lands and resources but it's got to be somewhere up there close to our national debt.

Glad to hear you're getting a day or two off once in a while. :-)

22 posted on 05/04/2012 7:35:32 AM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: Flycatcher

Welcome back.

Seen / heard anything interesting ?


23 posted on 05/04/2012 11:17:15 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76; jazusamo
Other than the western screech-owl I told you about on the cheetah thread, the only interesting critters I've seen were here where I live -- and last night.

While my wife and I were driving her sister home at night, I happened to come across a rattlesnake in the road (one of the rare paved roads where I live). I stopped the car and got out and grabbed a stick and moved the snake off the road. To my surprise, it was a sidewinder. I say "surprise" because all the other sidewinders I've encountered have been roadkill. I'm quite pleased that I was able (at least temporarily) to keep it from getting killed.

Now get this: Within one mile after moving on, we spied another snake in the road. I got out again and, through the headlights, discovered that it was a Mojave rattlesnake, or Mojave Green as they're called here. Again, I moved it off the road, but it took two sticks to do so as this snake was highly aggressive (unlike the very retiring and shy sidewinder). From what I've read, the Mojave Green is also considered to be the most dangerous snake in North America, as its venom is not just hematoxic, as all other rattlesnakes, but neurotoxic as well. As in cobra venom. Fortunately for Americans, it is seldom encountered as it inhabits area without much people.

Except for where I live, apparently. Ha ha!

Just so you know, I'll be staying home tonight.

All the best, George!

Snake ping to you too, Jaz! Yeah, I know I should probably kill them, but I've loved snakes since I was a little kid, and I just won't kill them.

Case closed. Lol!

24 posted on 05/04/2012 1:54:33 PM PDT by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: Flycatcher; george76
That's interesting that you'd come across a sidewinder and a Mojave Green like that. They like asphalt at night because of the warmth and where I lived in So CA there were many rattlers in the mtns, hills and front country right down into residential areas that abutted the brush areas.

A group of us teenagers used to go out NW of Barstow to hunt rabbits and shoot. The closest I ever came to getting nailed by a rattler was out there and it was a Mojave Green. We were hunting slow and I passed a clump of brush of some type, when I got about 5 or so feet past it the rattler buzzed and believe me when I say I still remember it, it was loud. I'd walked to within a foot or two of him and never saw him, couldn't believe he didn't strike. That's the only MG I've ever seen and don't want to see another one. Oh, and he got shot. :) I've read that they're the most poisonous rattler in the country but I'm no authority.

I haven't killed rattlers for years unless they're close to homes or near residential areas. I don't like them but don't think there's a reason to kill them if they're where they're not a danger to people and pets.

You can have them, I'll pass. LOL!

25 posted on 05/04/2012 2:45:13 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: Clintonfatigued; GOPsterinMA; fieldmarshaldj

No one is gonna watch today’s children’s cartoons in 15 years, let alone 50+.


26 posted on 05/06/2012 1:34:32 AM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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