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End of the manual transmission?
Fox News ^ | May 02, 2012 | Thomas Bey

Posted on 05/02/2012 1:50:24 PM PDT by Sopater

Go to any given dealership with 100 new cars.

On average, just four of the 2012 models will have manual gearboxes.

The trend of the vanishing third pedal is nothing new, notes The Detroit News.

Even a decade ago, just 8.5 percent of 2002 models were manuals. The paper’s own automotive reporter even confesses she never learned to drive a stick shift until it essentially became a job requirement.

It’s more than a little contradictory to automotive reviews (including many you’ll read here) extolling the pleasure of enthusiastic driving with a true manual gearbox. Likewise, purists gravitate to manuals for tackling their favorite twisting road or occasional track day. It’s the original form of in-car connectivity.

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To: Sopater

Most cars arn’t even available with a stick as an option anymore. You can’t get a stick on a full sized half ton pickup anymore. If you want a stick you have to buy a 3/4 ton or higher. I’ve owned 10 vehicles so far in my life and only 4 of them had sticks. I prefer stick but they are getting harder to find.


21 posted on 05/02/2012 2:03:18 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: Huskrrrr
"Can’t imagine a world w/o 5 speed manuals."

6 spd m/t's are just fine.

I've tried DSG xmissions but found them lacking (especially for coasting).

22 posted on 05/02/2012 2:03:48 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: MrNJ

Mine is also! Soon a manual will an extra cost option.


23 posted on 05/02/2012 2:04:52 PM PDT by TNoldman (AN AMERICAN FOR A MUSLIM/BHO FREE AMERICA.)
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To: Sopater

When I was young, I loved shifting for myself. My first car, a 55 Ford with a 272 had a 3 speed manual with overdrive. That actually meant 6 different gear ratios tho all were not really useful.

Automatics have been so good for so long that I no longer worry about it. I can recall even in the 60s that it was said Chrysler’s torqufliite would do as well or better than a manual in a drag.


24 posted on 05/02/2012 2:05:07 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: central_va

You left out remote starting. You can’t do remote starting on a stick when the safety code requirement is that the clutch is depressed to allow the starter to energize.


25 posted on 05/02/2012 2:06:41 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: Sopater
I’d take a classic Chevy muscle car (i.e. 1971 Camaro) over anything off the production line these days anyway...

I'll amen that. I once had a 1970 Chevy Malibu that had been, shall we say "worked on," by the previous owner. That car would move, not like the anemic stuff one encounters today.

And it was downright good-looking, too.

26 posted on 05/02/2012 2:06:55 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: newfreep
I have NEVER owned an automatic.

Me either, unless one counts the cars I legally owned for my son who refused to learn to drive a manual transmission car.

Many years ago I thought I might get an automatic to make things easier for my wife, but she test drove one and hated it. Even my daughter took her test in a manual and as little as she drove until she flew the nest, she drove a manual.

I'm on my third Camry five-speed, and sometimes miss my little MGB.

ML/NJ

27 posted on 05/02/2012 2:07:12 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Sopater
Go to any given dealership with 100 new cars.

On average, just four of the 2012 models will have manual gearboxes.

"ANY" dealership? It really depends on the dealership, doesn't it? I can't imagine it's going to be awfully hard to find a stick shift at a Porsche dealer. (They're up to 7 speed manuals on the new 911!)

Both of my cars are manuals, and I will give up my stick shift when they pry it from my cold, dead hand.

28 posted on 05/02/2012 2:11:32 PM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: certrtwngnut
Ever seen a "FOUR on the Tree"?
29 posted on 05/02/2012 2:12:02 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: yarddog

Chrysler’s torqeflight sucked. REal bad. But it would handle any amount of horsepower you could throw at it.

Drag racing evolved into bracket racing. In order to win bracket racing, you have to get as close to your expected time as possible without beating it. This means you need a car with a very predictable performance and will give you the same time every time you run it.

You can’t do that with a stick.


30 posted on 05/02/2012 2:12:02 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: Sopater
Yeah, but a stick on the floor was a bitch when out with a girl and trying to cop a f**l and shift the tranny at the same time.

Has a 62 SAAB. 3 speed on column. Could keep the right arm around her, reach over the steering wheel with the left to shift, and tickle her left ****** with my right hand all at the same time.

Ah, the good old days.

31 posted on 05/02/2012 2:12:12 PM PDT by MindBender26 (New Army SF and Ranger Slogan: Vengeance is Mine, sayeth the Lord.... but He subcontracts!)
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To: Sopater

I remember how I learned to drive a stick. I was standing in a muddy footing trench when the jobsite foreman came up and said “We need someone to be the jobsite gopher, make deliveries, pick up materials...do you know how to drive a stick shift?”

The first and only word out of my mouth was “yes.” Now, technically it wasn’t a lie, since I did know conceptually how to drive a stick, I’d just never actually done it. But I figured if I could get that F 150 off the construction lot and over behind the Hardee’s where I could practice a bit without the foreman seeing me, and then get to and from Kokomo Lumber in one piece, I had it made.

I made there and back, got a radio strapped to my side, and never went back to the muddy footer trench. The black guys on the concrete crew called me “easy money” as I drove around Kokomo listening to Milo Hamilton and Lou Boudreaux broadcast Cub games on the radio. Ah...the summer of 1980...


32 posted on 05/02/2012 2:12:46 PM PDT by henkster (Wanted: Politicians willing to say "No" to people. No experience required.)
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To: Sopater

Haven’t owned an automatic trans vehicle since the 80’s and toggled between manuals prior to. My Ford pickup now will never have to worry about replacing a tranny. The transaxle is virtually worry free. Only pain with stick shifting is in stop and go snarled traffic.


33 posted on 05/02/2012 2:13:05 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: Drill Thrawl
Since manuals are more fuel efficient you would think there would be more.

On many new cars, even the smaller 4-bangers, this is no longer the case. Review the mileage estimates, often the automatics get better mileage. The current Ford Fiesta shows the automatic and manual to be identical in the city (29 MPG), but the automatic gets 1 or 2 MPG better on the highway 39 (or 40 for the SFE package) for the automatic vs 38 for the manual.

34 posted on 05/02/2012 2:14:12 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Rose, there's a Messerschmitt in the kitchen. Clean it up, will ya?)
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To: Sopater

oh no kidding!
I guess I am going to keep my 2003 mustang till i die.
I LOVE driving my car!!


35 posted on 05/02/2012 2:16:07 PM PDT by ronniesgal ( I miss George Bush. Hell, I miss Bill Clinton!!)
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To: Paladin2

“6 spd m/t’s are just fine.”

Yes, I’d love to test drive one someday.


36 posted on 05/02/2012 2:16:30 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: MindBender26

Damn near killed me more than once. WATCH OUT! THE ROAD IS DONE! :^)


37 posted on 05/02/2012 2:17:47 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: mo
Sounds like those black box thingys don’t work too well with a manual

Hmmmm...
38 posted on 05/02/2012 2:19:00 PM PDT by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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To: Sopater

I once drove my Brother’s Mazda diesel pickup all the way from North Georgia to the Florida panhandle with no clutch. The only real trouble was I once was forced to stop at a stop sign. I usually could shift into low and just creep up to them and then when it was clear, go ahead and accelerate.

All you had to do of course was synchronize the speed of the engine with the wheels by revving the engine a little then get to feel when the speeds matched. I did plan the trip without having to go through Atlanta or Columbus, GA.

He didn’t have the money to fix it so Daddy had me drive his pickup to my Brother’s place then I drove the Mazda home. My Brother never would have made it.


39 posted on 05/02/2012 2:20:34 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: newfreep

“I have NEVER owned an automatic.”

me neither. told my frau when she got her license to learn to drive a stick and she did. i currently drive a 2008 forester w/5-speed.


40 posted on 05/02/2012 2:20:58 PM PDT by bravo whiskey (If the little things really bother you, maybe it's because the big things are going well.)
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