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SAN FRANCISCO: Trashed Mission District businesses want answers
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 5/1/12 | Vivian Ho, Ellen Huet, Jaxon Van Derbeken

Posted on 05/01/2012 6:09:33 PM PDT by SmithL

Business owners in San Francisco's Mission District, cleaning up after a night in which protesters damaged more than 30 stores and restaurants and vandalized cars, questioned Tuesday why activists had singled them out and why police hadn't done more to halt the rampage.

Among those dealing with the damage were officers at the neighborhood police station, where black-clad, masked activists threw paint and bashed the front door Monday night.

Even as they defended themselves from criticism that they had allowed the vandals to run wild - one restaurant owner said officers even appeared to be "escorting" the group - high-level police officials met to find a better way to handle out-of-control crowds.

Split from rally

The protesters split away at 9 p.m. from an Occupy rally in Dolores Park that was held in advance of Tuesday's May Day actions. Traveling down 18th Street and onto Valencia Street, they smashed windows with crowbars and signs, threw paint and eggs on buildings and spray-painted anarchy symbols on the hoods of parked cars.

"All I heard was, 'bang, bang, bang,' and some dude had the valet sign, trying to break our window," said Adam Koskoff, manager of the Locanda restaurant on Valencia. "I didn't even see the crowd, and I ran outside and got egged."

The vandals damaged restaurants, bakeries and clothing stories, along with at least 17 cars on Valencia and Guerrero streets. An expensive Aston Martin had its windshield shattered, but the protesters damaged everyday cars as well.

At the Mission police station at 17th and Valencia streets, pink and yellow paint was thrown on the barricaded glass doors, which someone cracked with a hammer or similar weapon.

"It was like the station was under siege," said an officer, who asked not to be named.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; occubots; occupy; occutardation; occutards; occuturds; professionalprotest; sanctuaryfrancisco; sanfranciscovalues; sanfranswishco
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1 posted on 05/01/2012 6:09:46 PM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

Answer - This is what happens when you vote Democrat.


2 posted on 05/01/2012 6:12:06 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: SmithL

Where’s that pic of the San Francisco police force leadership.


3 posted on 05/01/2012 6:12:48 PM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: SmithL

Nancy Pelosi says thank God for them...... It is imperative the anti-America, anti-capitalism politicians join unemployment lines very very soon.


4 posted on 05/01/2012 6:13:11 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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To: SmithL

If and when the real anarchy gets going, these little agitators don’t stand a chance.


5 posted on 05/01/2012 6:14:21 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: blueunicorn6
yup. Dumb-ass obamanoids got their answer last night. They just didn't like it.
6 posted on 05/01/2012 6:15:31 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: SmithL

Liberals in San Francisco living among the radical leftists are like chickens trying to coexist with coyotes. Sooner or later, they will be eaten.


7 posted on 05/01/2012 6:15:58 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: SmithL
I wonder?

Are these Obamah, "Fundamentally Change America" voters or felons?

Oh, and Occupoopers?

Before now, I didn't notice the Poster-Boy is wearing "The Devil's" shoes.

8 posted on 05/01/2012 6:19:06 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: SmithL
If police forces throughout the country that account for huge sums of taxpayer dollars can't control these thugs there’ll come a day that honest citizens will. Honest citizens don't have pepper spray, stun guns or beanbag rounds to control mobs, they only have plain old weapons.
9 posted on 05/01/2012 6:19:06 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: SmithL

Learn from Detroit.

When they trash your business, leave.

50 years later and Detroit still hasn’t recovered.


10 posted on 05/01/2012 6:19:18 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: SmithL
"Even as they defended themselves from criticism that they had allowed the vandals to run wild - one restaurant owner said officers even appeared to be "escorting" the group..."

They aren't allowed to arrest bipartisan trust fund babies. "The toes you step on today..." and all of that.


11 posted on 05/01/2012 6:20:55 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: SmithL
Hint to law abiding people in 'Frisco and anyone else who haven't got the message:
Find a Korean pen pal in Los Angeles, and pay attention.
12 posted on 05/01/2012 6:22:46 PM PDT by norton
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To: SmithL

SF is one of my favorite towns to visit.
(Just as long as I’m on an expense account.)


13 posted on 05/01/2012 6:24:34 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: SmithL

Well you wanted the rich to pay. You are paying. What do you have to complain about. You are reaping the rewards of your own moral code. Apologies to the rational who live there and were harmed but then again you chose to live among the irrational.


14 posted on 05/01/2012 6:24:38 PM PDT by albionin
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To: SmithL
So the mayor of San Francisco is horrified by the Occupy Wall Street thugs and yet.....

Up in Portland, that mayor is telling the Occupy folks to keep up the good job they are doing......

http://victoriataftkpam.blogspot.com/2012/05/mayor-sam-adams-tells-childrenoccupiers.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+blogspot%2FFRIlu+%28VICTORIA+TAFT%29

Oh, well, it is street theater designed to try to help Democrats solidify their base for the coming November elections. We really should not be too upset about all the rioting (/sarcasm)

15 posted on 05/01/2012 6:24:40 PM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: norton
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16 posted on 05/01/2012 6:25:30 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

Those Koreans couldn’t get away with that today.


17 posted on 05/01/2012 6:31:39 PM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks SmithL.
Traveling down 18th Street and onto Valencia Street, they smashed windows with crowbars and signs, threw paint and eggs on buildings and spray-painted anarchy symbols on the hoods of parked cars. "All I heard was, 'bang, bang, bang,' and some dude had the valet sign, trying to break our window," said Adam Koskoff, manager of the Locanda restaurant on Valencia. "I didn't even see the crowd, and I ran outside and got egged."
Isn't it obvious? San Francisco needs to ban crowbars, signs, spray paint, eggs, and parked cars -- unless they're imported cars.


18 posted on 05/01/2012 6:34:32 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SmithL

San Francisco: what goes around comes around. This is the town that coddled the radical movement in the Sixties. Stupidity carries a price.


19 posted on 05/01/2012 6:35:39 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: SmithL
Rioters and looters need to know that business owners will shoot them when they start breaking in the windows and doors. If that won't happen, and the police are made escorts for the Tear Down America crowd, then businesses and taxpayers are nothing but sheep to be sheered.
20 posted on 05/01/2012 6:35:59 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: blueunicorn6

These fools shoot themselves in the foot and blame the gun. Sadly but truly they suffer at their own hand. Tolerance has its price.


21 posted on 05/01/2012 6:37:08 PM PDT by awaken2spirit (When one fornicates with ignorance, the result of that union is chaos.)
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To: SmithL

What a Witless Wonder that Mayor Lee is.


22 posted on 05/01/2012 6:39:22 PM PDT by samtheman ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ-4gnNz0vc)
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To: elkfersupper

The problem is that these punk agitators will never go near places that would fight back against their anarchy.

I also think that each time these punks act out, they cause another fence sitter to turn right.


23 posted on 05/01/2012 6:47:40 PM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: SmithL
"They're coming through the Mission, where there aren't any corporations, just a lot of small businesses, which is what they're all about," Koskoff said. "It doesn't make sense."

That's the sort of incorrect premise that can get one killed, some day. These people are about destroying what you have, because you have it and they don't.

24 posted on 05/01/2012 6:49:56 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: SmithL

This is so silly.

“HEY San Fransisco businesses”...You’re in progressive, commie, liberal SAN FRANCISCO!! You want a fairly taxed, secure business?? Then GTFO of San Francisco....better yet, GTFO of Kalifornia altogether.


25 posted on 05/01/2012 6:50:42 PM PDT by citizen (A)
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To: umgud

But they could do it in Detroit which is one reason I’m more optimistic than most about Detroit.


26 posted on 05/01/2012 6:50:52 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: SmithL

Lay down with dogs and you get fleas. And California has been laying down with dogs for two decades now. Let them reap what they’ve sown.


27 posted on 05/01/2012 6:54:02 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: Dutch Boy; elkfersupper
I also think that each time these punks act out, they cause another fence sitter to turn right.

Riding the bus in Oakland this morning, I witnessed a bit of that sentiment. The lines were experiencing delays and detours due to the "Occupy" protests downtown.

So at one stop we picked up this older gentleman, about in his sixties or seventies, overweight, irritated, with a face as pink as the sport shirt he wore.

He began ranting about the protestors, saying at first that he supported them because they were for the resurgence of "the working class" and he was "a union man" from a long ways back, but then paused and said he wasn't so sure about that now because they'd caused his bus to be delayed by 35 minutes.

28 posted on 05/01/2012 6:55:09 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: umgud

“Those Koreans couldn’t get away with that today.”

Eric Holder would prosecute them for hate crimes, and Marion Barry would hold a press conference: “We gotta get rid of these Asians!”


29 posted on 05/01/2012 6:58:51 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: SmithL

During the Watts riots, the Koreans defended their shops with guns. But that would never occur to the SF pansie police.


30 posted on 05/01/2012 6:59:58 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: SmithL

Sorry. I have absolutely no sympathy for anybody who deliberately decides to open a business in a place like San Fransicko.
Okay... I can see maybe somebody going into the gerbil business there.


31 posted on 05/01/2012 7:04:55 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Yep. Heart of the matter, isn’t it?


32 posted on 05/01/2012 7:08:58 PM PDT by rlmorel ("The safest road to Hell is the gradual one." Screwtape (C.S. Lewis))
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To: Robert357

I understand the Seattle mayor did the same. I don’t call them Seattlunatics for nothing.


33 posted on 05/01/2012 7:29:39 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: SmithL
Trashed Mission District businesses want answers

If ya want to know who is at fault, it is the guy that voted DemoRat, donated DemoRat, gave lip service to DemoRat PC, the guy that failed to move his business and jobs he created out of San Fransicko, preferably all the way out of Californicate, and if ya want to speak to him, he's in your bathroom mirror.

34 posted on 05/01/2012 7:37:02 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it and the law is what WE say it is.)
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To: cripplecreek; CounterCounterCulture
Given that they wasted their trashing on small business, I guess they got lost. There are FAR more productive locations to vent class warfare than the Mission. Why not attack the REAL .01%??? Don't know where they live? Allow me:

  1. Pacific Avenue, between Fillmore and Lyon. That's where all the consulate generals hang.
  2. Sea Cliff Avenue and Camino Del Mar between 25th and 32nd. Nice view too.
  3. Yerba Buena Avenue and Miraloma Drive between Monterey and Portola. It's cool, forested, and there's a huge selection of windows and lots of room to get going with a bucket of paint on nicely textured surfaces.

Of course, the Marxists wouldn't dare attack those locations for two reasons: First, it's the .01% who fund them in the first place. Second, the cops WILL defend those neighborhoods because it's where their fat salaries really come from.

35 posted on 05/01/2012 7:49:09 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The RINOcrat Party is still in charge. There has never been a conservative American government.)
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To: SmithL
these are your children(literally if not figuratively) coming home to roost... you voted for the lawmakers, laws, liberal environment and people that raised and educated these vermin and NOW you complain to US???

you're lucky they didn't follow your hero Abby Hoffman's advise and kill you!!!

like the saying goes, play stooopid games, win stooopid prizes

36 posted on 05/01/2012 8:01:18 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: rockrr

Seattle didn’t come up with much of a response to a total of 200 protestors. They knew there would be problems, but it doesn’t seem they were interested in stopping it.


37 posted on 05/01/2012 8:23:02 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: USNBandit

There was one bit of video from KOMO that showed the SPD harassing an agitator that was pretty good. The fool was confronting the cop and back-pedaling until he tripped (or was tripped) over another cops bike.

Self-inflicted I say.


38 posted on 05/01/2012 8:32:24 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: saganite
"Where’s that pic of the San Francisco police force leadership."

That picture will be found right next to the picture of the SFPD arresting these domestic terrorists.



hint: they both are non-existent.

39 posted on 05/01/2012 8:53:47 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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To: Carry_Okie

Don’t forget the juicy targets on Presidio Terrace off Arguello.


40 posted on 05/01/2012 8:56:23 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: SmithL

Answer?

Here’s an intertwined pair:

1) Non-judgmentalism.

2) Moral equivalence.


41 posted on 05/01/2012 8:58:07 PM PDT by EyeGuy (Non-Holder person.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
I thought of those neighborhoods along the Presidio, but they're sort of an extension of the same neighborhood as that on Pacific Avenue but not in the same class.

They'll do as targets, so you are correct, but they're somewhat nouveau by comparison, don't you think?

42 posted on 05/01/2012 10:13:56 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The RINOcrat Party is still in charge. There has never been a conservative American government.)
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To: umgud

I’m sure the Koreans wouldn’t care. They were some of the most feared troops in Vietnam for a reason.


43 posted on 05/01/2012 10:34:33 PM PDT by M1903A1 ("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy... and call it progress")
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What’s the big deal? Tea Party people do this all the time.


44 posted on 05/01/2012 10:44:50 PM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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To: Truth29
in a very sick and sad way, I almost hope that these businesses get ruined, or start having massive losses, and the tax base is killed off, and the cities starve...

what did they really expect?....you don't protect the businesses, you're not going to get tax income....

45 posted on 05/01/2012 11:59:57 PM PDT by cherry
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To: thecodont
Typical asshats who don't give a hoot until it effects them directly.

46 posted on 05/02/2012 12:30:57 AM PDT by MaxMax
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To: SmithL

Maybe police have given up on dealing with liberal groups who do violence... Here’s another example of that:

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http://hamptonroads.com.nyud.net/2012/05/beating-church-and-brambleton

A reporter making routine checks of police reports would see “simple assault” and, if the names were unfamiliar, would be unlikely to write about it. In this case, editors hesitated to assign a story about their own employees. Would it seem like the paper treated its employees differently from other crime victims?

More questions loomed.

Forster and Rostami wondered if the officer who answered their call treated all crime victims the same way. When Rostami, who admits she was hysterical, tried to describe what had happened, she says the officer told her to shut up and get in the car. Both said the officer did not record any names of witnesses who stopped to help. Rostami said the officer told them the attackers were “probably juveniles anyway. What are we going to do? Find their parents and tell them?”

The officer pointed to public housing in the area and said large groups of teenagers look for trouble on the weekends. “It’s what they do,” he told Forster.

Could that be true? Could violent mobs of teens be so commonplace in Norfolk that police and victims have no recourse?


47 posted on 05/02/2012 3:24:41 AM PDT by GOPJ (Had a Christian minister yelled at a bunch of gay students - the New York Times would have covered i)
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To: jazusamo; TexasCajun; sickoflibs; norton; Liz; Scoutmaster; familyop; albionin; AdmSmith; ...

Police are giving up around the country. Here some members of the MSM get beat up - police admit to being helpless... Follow the link for more:

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http://hamptonroads.com.nyud.net/2012/05/beating-church-and-brambleton

A reporter making routine checks of police reports would see “simple assault” and, if the names were unfamiliar, would be unlikely to write about it. In this case, editors hesitated to assign a story about their own employees. Would it seem like the paper treated its employees differently from other crime victims?

More questions loomed.

Forster and Rostami wondered if the officer who answered their call treated all crime victims the same way. When Rostami, who admits she was hysterical, tried to describe what had happened, she says the officer told her to shut up and get in the car. Both said the officer did not record any names of witnesses who stopped to help. Rostami said the officer told them the attackers were “probably juveniles anyway. What are we going to do? Find their parents and tell them?”

The officer pointed to public housing in the area and said large groups of teenagers look for trouble on the weekends. “It’s what they do,” he told Forster.

Could that be true? Could violent mobs of teens be so commonplace in Norfolk that police and victims have no recourse?


48 posted on 05/02/2012 3:35:48 AM PDT by GOPJ (Had a Christian minister yelled at a bunch of gay students - the New York Times would have covered i)
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To: GOPJ
Don't get out of your vehicle in a mob attack, use the gas peddle and hope that you are driving something substantial and not an econobox.
49 posted on 05/02/2012 3:41:34 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Truth29

The professional ‘downtrodden’ - or as we call them - thugs - usually see ‘the press’ as their friends. I think these two reporters didn’t realize the ‘younger downtrodden’ don’t give a hoot if they get good coverage or not. I suspect these reporters won’t get out of the car next time...


50 posted on 05/02/2012 3:56:40 AM PDT by GOPJ (Had a Christian minister yelled at a bunch of gay students - the New York Times would have covered i)
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