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Dan Savage "We Should Acknowledge The Existence of Good Pedophiles”
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Posted on 04/29/2012 10:12:24 PM PDT by Maelstorm

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To: Maelstorm

savage is a domestic enemy and obama and his staff thinks he is a spokesman. He is a spokesman all right—one who reveals evil and calls it good.


51 posted on 04/30/2012 2:12:40 AM PDT by BamaAndy
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To: Maelstorm

The guy is bad enough without making up stuff. Someone else (Dr James Cantor) was saying that in the column.


52 posted on 04/30/2012 2:52:56 AM PDT by PghBaldy
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To: Maelstorm

Pedophilia is legal and accepted in many countries, especially muslim countries. After all their prophet married a 6 yr old girl.


53 posted on 04/30/2012 3:08:20 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Maelstorm

Maybe right now in Savage’s book the “good pedophile” is one who keeps his hands off of kids and only entertains it in his mind... but we know where this is headed. This isn’t a screed about sin and temptation and salvation. Next up, there will be “good molestations.”


54 posted on 04/30/2012 3:09:22 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: Maelstorm

The only good pedophile is a dead one.


55 posted on 04/30/2012 3:11:22 AM PDT by MissEdie (America went to the polls on 11-4-08 and all we got was a socialist thug and a dottering old fool.)
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To: Maelstorm

The only good pedophile is a dead pedophile..

I hope the Indians will excuse me for diggin up that old saying.


56 posted on 04/30/2012 3:42:32 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Maelstorm

A good pedophile is like the clean end of a turd


57 posted on 04/30/2012 3:51:25 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (I like Obamacare because Granny signed the will and I need the cash)
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To: 21twelve
A good pedophile is a dead one.

What a judgmental attitude for you to have.The good pedophiles are the ones who vote Rat...who work for ACORN...who donate to Planned Barrenhood...who are scoutmasters in the Boy Scouts.

Catholic priests,on the other hand....

58 posted on 04/30/2012 4:06:20 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Unlike Mrs Obama,I've Been Proud Of This Country My *Entire* Life!)
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To: Maelstorm

We are the enemy..........got it!


59 posted on 04/30/2012 4:39:32 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (B B)
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To: Maelstorm
Sadly, Savage reminds me of my former step son. his life was everyone else's fault.

He is an over the top drama queen who constantly throws perversion in your face and then calls you intolerant when you call it exactly what it is.

By Savages own logic a good homosexual, would be like a good pedophile, he would not act on his urges and desires.........toss that back at him and watch perverted heads explode every where!

I've seen this, I've had it invade my home for holidays and vacations, the only way to deal with it is to ban it from your home.

By the way ny step son admitted in one of his "coherent" drunken moments that his first homosexual experience was at 13 with a former 35 year old neighbor.

60 posted on 04/30/2012 4:42:52 AM PDT by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: Maelstorm
Actually, I believe pedophiles should be shot.

I'm not being flippant.

61 posted on 04/30/2012 4:44:13 AM PDT by Pietro
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To: Kakaze
step son admitted in one of his "coherent" drunken moments that his first homosexual experience was at 13 with a former 35 year old neighbor

That's not a pedophile, that's a typical packer "chicken hawk" (pederast)

62 posted on 04/30/2012 4:46:18 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Woe to them that call evil, good, and good, evil.

"The creed of evil has been, since the beginnings of highly industrialized society, not only a precursor of barbarism but a mask of good. The worth of the latter was transferred to the evil that drew to itself all the hatred and resentment of an order which drummed good into its adherents so that it could with impunity be evil." - Theodor Wiesengrund Adorno
63 posted on 04/30/2012 4:47:20 AM PDT by Renderofveils (My loathings are simple: stupidity, oppression, crime, cruelty, soft music. - Nabokov)
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To: Maelstorm

Everyone knows that an addict is the last person to trust, and pedophiles are like the worst of the worst in that type of abomination.

That being said, in general, it is time we take care of our own before these murderers start taking care of us for good.


64 posted on 04/30/2012 4:51:54 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: Renderofveils

Indeed, we are being assaulted by yet another cult of pseudo-charity that attacks life and real charity as a mask for murder.

Welcome to humanist language and socialist decay.

It started with feminism, the pill, condoms and the abortion aberation as a means to false charity.


65 posted on 04/30/2012 4:56:06 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: chris37

Its coming; not to worry.


66 posted on 04/30/2012 4:56:49 AM PDT by Rich21IE
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
The professor claimed that sexual urges were so deep that they could not be resisted. I said that they could be, but some just chose not to. Because pedophilia is considered so horrible that no one will admit to it and see a psych doctor about it unless forced to by the court, there was a selection bias that the only patients were those who had actually committed the horrible act. Both the patients and too many of the doctors tried to excuse it because that urge was “irresistible” rather than placing blame on those who had the urge and chose not to resist it (or unresisted as I said).
67 posted on 04/30/2012 4:57:07 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (You only have three billion heartbeats in a lifetime.How many does the government claim as its own?)
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To: chris37

I keep looking up, expecting the big asteroid.


68 posted on 04/30/2012 4:58:00 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Maelstorm
a good one, is a dead one...
69 posted on 04/30/2012 5:03:03 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Maelstorm

> What is a “good pedophile”?
A “good pedophile” is a dead pedophile.


70 posted on 04/30/2012 5:03:44 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (End Obama's War On Freedom.)
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To: Maelstorm

Just look to Europe where the homosexual agenda has been embraced.

They have already lowered the age of consent to 13 in western countries like Spain.

Like most liberals, they know how to win through incrementalism. First, gay marriage, then lower age of consent, then legalize pedophilia.


71 posted on 04/30/2012 5:05:02 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: KarlInOhio

Yes, but there needs to be two other distinctions as well.

1) There needs to be research to understand the “shades of gray”. Using just age of the victim as the sole criteria fails the “Traci Lords” test, but appearance criteria fails as well because of adult women who look underage, the “Little Lupe” test.

2) The flip side of this is the corruption of natural sexual attraction between adults, becomes adults attracted to children, as well as distinguishing those who are just attracted from those who do something about that attraction which is illegal. Should “Toddlers & Tiaras” be illegal? Using children as fashion models?

3) Then there is “organic” pedophilia, either physical (brain aberration), psychopathic or sociopathic.

However, despite all the above, society does not and should not in any way tolerate pedophilia based on the “We know it when we see it” criteria. It can only be parsed to a limited extent, and then only to determine the relative severity of punishments, including surgical correction.


72 posted on 04/30/2012 5:07:03 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Maelstorm
I looked Henry Hay up once because of some of the things I had read about this gay pedophile, mainly that he had a gay affair with Grandpa Walton, yes that Will Geer from the Waltons, who was a gay communist. Anyway, up until his death Hay claimed that the gay community was all about freedom of sexual choice, including with any age partner. He even admitted he was ostracized by the gay community because he spoke the truth, and they tried to cover it up to be more “acceptable to society”. He went to his grave in the 1980’s saying being gay and pedophilia went hand in hand. A real piece if work, but also an honest look into gay beliefs. He had been the leader of the gay rights movement from the 30's on, which also just happened to coincide with his leadership in the Communist USA movement.
73 posted on 04/30/2012 5:11:43 AM PDT by MacMattico
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To: Pietro

THey are twisting the “cast the first stone” issue, which applies to hypocrites who litteraly punish the child with sex acts on them. It is totally disgusting rhetoric. Merely talking about “good pedophiles” should bring child porn charges by the subject matter itself and admission of intent of harm under an umbrella of “social acceptance”, also known as collective/government intimidation.

What is sought here is total submission to government and force also. This is the psychobable of Obama’s friends, and Obama is suspected in having been raped as a child. So, his group of people have trained him to make it an agenda of equality.

Indeed, if one does not know a cure for these kinds of things, which there are none, because it is a matter of straight control and coward domination evil in addition to adulterous sin (ie. a rebellion of the possessed against any cure if there was one), then the subject which is not at peace needs to be shot and be made at peace. I do not see these people pushing Euthanasia for these kinds of people, and though I am against Euthanasia, I am not against using it in this case, and this is why we have the death penalty.

THese people KNOW they are wrong and they KNOW they hurt others, regardless of their own “personal feelings” etc. THey know the latter is not even the point but they will keep trying to make others believe this is the case, having no regards what so ever for the “feelings of others”. THe slave of the flesh and for the flesh only is a sicko.

What is most sinister in this is the islam angle. It’s obvious that tyranny, laziness, idleness and the pedophile mindset go hand in hand, and Marxists and fascists for welfare have affinities for this. In their circles it’s one of those beliefs that everyone is a pedophile but cannot admit it. Their minds are blind dangerous craters of immorality. I would not keep a set of keys near a seemingly “nice gay guy”. Satan was/is gay.

Sometimes I cannot help but see Romney types trying to make an industrial buck out of liberalism and using crazies and druggies on the street to push that on us. It makes one wonder: the left is being exploited by callous greedy GOP-E, and, yet, the left is also provoking us to side with them on their terms of perversion against the GOP-E, while blackmailing us if we ever sided with them that way.

We need to figure a way to get this crap out of the closet, and not these meek measures of “if only the laws were different etc...” They are looking for a shot, a reason to enforce this stuff for real. It is obvious that ultimately politics requires force of arms.


74 posted on 04/30/2012 5:19:50 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: BuffaloJack

I agree this fag also has a show on MTV where he coaches college students on sex and relationships. Vile disgusting human..


75 posted on 04/30/2012 5:21:59 AM PDT by MARKUSPRIME
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Indeed, people know what is needed to bring peace and harmony. The cures are here, but there is this incredible unwillingness to seek them. Modernity has transformed people into some really weak individuals who enforce it with forces of arms and smart weapons.

Movies like Matrix are full of such subtle innuendos.


76 posted on 04/30/2012 5:25:28 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: MARKUSPRIME

Teleprompting... this is what happens when an extremely weak person is provided with words, rhetoric, a TV broadcast system and force of government arms to protect them or allow them to wield this blob of “electrical mush” that their brains have become, garbage in, garbage out: theirs is a bizarro world of pseudo-progress, pseudo-advance, pseudo dressing, pseudo-logic, pseudo-science, pseudo-justice and pseudo-charity (pseudo-everything nihilists like Zero).


77 posted on 04/30/2012 5:30:46 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: Maelstorm
This is the same git who mocked Christians students who walked out of an assembly. I was truly shocked at the hypocrisy that he not only encourage but lead in the attack on those kids who were courageous enough to walk out.
78 posted on 04/30/2012 5:31:44 AM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West)
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To: chris37

I agree....I am SO ready to go Home!


79 posted on 04/30/2012 5:54:17 AM PDT by CT Hillbilly (Thoughts=Words=Actions=Destiny)
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To: Maelstorm

Good the more he speaks the more he draws attention to what is wrong with homosexuality - it is grounded in godlessness and child molestation. That’s the goal and they’re using the schools and the media to get our children.


80 posted on 04/30/2012 6:06:12 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Maelstorm
It seems there may be some who have such urges, I think Savages point is that those who have these urges, and thus are technically "pedophiles", but who DONT give into the urges, and stay away from kids, are "good" ones.

I agree with the statement.

81 posted on 04/30/2012 6:14:12 AM PDT by Paradox (I want Obama defeated. Period.)
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To: ColdSteelTalon

He says a “good” pedophile is one who NEVER acts upon his sexual inclination.

Much as a “good” kleptomaniac would be one with the pathological impulse to steal - but does not.

As a Christian I find it hard to recommend suicide - but to those with that sort of impulse (and I don’t mean kleptomania) - I am tempted.


82 posted on 04/30/2012 6:39:41 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to DC to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: Jonty30
The only good pedophiles are the ones horrified by their fantasies to never carry it out and they keep themselves away from being tempted.

Let me start by saing I think Dan Savage is a vile bully. However, if you read the article, I think that is what he is saying. The "good pedophile" is the one who never acts on his urges and keeps himself out of situations with kids. Savage buys into the idea that the sex drive to like children is some type of chemical or physiological imbalance and not a choice. And that this imbalance can be treated and dealt with by not putting oneself in the wrong situations (like babysitting kids).

The irony of ironies is that the same can be said of homosexuality -- that it is some type of physiological imbalance that can be treated and dealt with by not putting oneself in tempting situations. Of course, Savage would never give that advice to a gay man because homosexuality is "natural". Then why is he giving it to a pedophile?

83 posted on 04/30/2012 6:51:52 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Maelstorm

There’s a reason Hitler knowingly allowed gays in the ranks of the SA during his rise to power....a gay in position of authority is more ruthless than even their heterosexual counterparts....of course Hitler knew once he achieved power they would be a thorn in his side, so he had them done away with in “The Night of the Long Knives.”


84 posted on 04/30/2012 6:56:43 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: dfwgator
“The Night of the Long Knives.”

Mmmm......where have I heard that term before. :)

85 posted on 04/30/2012 7:01:18 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

No, what Savage is doing is redefining the arguement. He’s getting you to accept that not all sexual sins are bad. For example, accepting that a man may be a pedophile but if he’s not acting on it, he’s good.

It’s a thin edge of the wedge. The moment it becomes acceptable to fantasize, it’s a small step to reality.

Perhaps having pictures of children being abused is all right, because the act was done and you can’t do anything about that. But because you “only” have pictures, you’re keeping yourself from actually harming children.

Then it won’t be but a small step from just having pictures to lightly molesting them, because there’s no actual penetration or something.

Eventually, no limits on what you can do with kids will become the norm.

This is why, even traces of, pedophilia should not be tolerated and should be subject to the fullest punishment of the law.


86 posted on 04/30/2012 7:01:51 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Markos33

Pedophile, homophobe, these are medical terms politicized... it’s garbage. What now? Pedophileophobes?

These people hate children because they require a type of respect and charity they do not want to undertake or be tested by.

Many thieves and taxers want to appear like they do it for the children, yet they hate the children they have to prove they must care for. THus laws are being relaxed for the corruption of the government.

This is totally unconstitutional imbalance of power, of course, and self destructive.


87 posted on 04/30/2012 7:02:02 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: KarlInOhio

There are no doubt folks who have urges but control them, no matter what they are, homosexuality, group sex, animal sex, and even pedophilia. By controlling their urges they show that human beings are not merely animals ruled by their urges. Every man or woman who’s had an opportunity to cheat with someone they found attractive has showed they can control their biological urges, this however is completely counter to the leftist agenda.

I have no doubt there are people out there with urges, all kinds, that never act on them and willfully avoid situations that will place them in undo situations. Irrespective of what those urges may be. The left doesn’t want personal restraint or accountability to be in play because it puts the lie to their world view.

I am no fan of Dan Savage, he’s a gay activist nutjob who coined the term “manogamish” for crying out loud, however, the general premise there are people in this world with sick urges who do not act on them, is I believe an accurate one.


88 posted on 04/30/2012 7:03:16 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay
Agreed. If you see your wife in bed with another man, you may have the urge to kill them but you don't. If you see a cute woman in the store, you don't run over and rape her. If you see someone drop their wallet, you give it back to them rather than taking the money. People have all kinds of urges to do the wrong thing but the process of becoming civilized is learning to control those urges.

This article, written by Dan Savage, brings to mind a gay man having sex with a young boy and people -- rightfully -- have a very negative reaction to that. But pedophilia also is an adult man like Jerry Lee Lewis marrying a 14 year old girl. Or popular songs from the 60s and 70s where an adult singer sang about bedding a 16 year old girl. Or how many times do we have a thread here about a 30-something, cute, female teacher bedding one of her teenage students? Everyone thinks that is hilarious and wishes that they had teachers like that. Guess what? That teacher is a pedophile.

Everyone needs to control their urges to do wrong things. Mere thought is not a crime if the person does not act on their urges. But if they do, and it something as bad as pedophilia, then society should punish them harshly.

89 posted on 04/30/2012 7:58:01 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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BUMP!


90 posted on 04/30/2012 8:04:38 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: All

BUMP


91 posted on 04/30/2012 8:06:25 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Maelstorm

Where does Savage go to speak next? We should keep track of this pedophile-apologist’s activities in Obama’s Public Schools.


92 posted on 04/30/2012 8:08:41 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Maelstorm

Can these good pedophiles start with his son?


93 posted on 04/30/2012 8:08:57 AM PDT by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: Maelstorm

Can these good pedophiles start with his son?


94 posted on 04/30/2012 8:08:57 AM PDT by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: Maelstorm

I wonder what his reaction would be if someone gave a speech talking about acknowledging the existence of good homphobes. I suspect it’d be rather...colorful.


95 posted on 04/30/2012 8:11:27 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Obama 2012: Dozens of MSNBC viewers can't be wrong!)
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To: Maelstorm

and right there he has shown what the ultimate goal is of the homosexual agenda and we still have ignorant dopes on our side not caring about social issues or saying”I know some and they’re nice “ or” I don’t care who marries who”
the fraud named Hannity said this too.

So for any dopes on our side who have the couldn’t careless attitude to their agenda then wake the hell up and stop supporting their ultimate goal and yes letting them marry is helping them


96 posted on 04/30/2012 8:17:12 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman,It's not a conservative view but a true American view)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

just said the same.

The ultimate goal for the homosexuals is to have sex with little boys and sadly we have dopes and fools on our side who say they couldn’t careless about homo’s marrying or they could’t careless about social issues.


97 posted on 04/30/2012 8:20:38 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman,It's not a conservative view but a true American view)
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To: ops33
Can these good pedophiles start with his son?

Dan and his husband have a son?
Hoo boy...

98 posted on 04/30/2012 8:21:03 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

Then his nephew.


99 posted on 04/30/2012 8:30:47 AM PDT by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: ops33

That’s bad news waiting to happen there. I’m libertarian on a lot of matters, but I do not support gay adoption, especially of boys - at all.


100 posted on 04/30/2012 8:31:26 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (The Republican Party is bigger than the presidency.)
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