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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 29 April 2012
Various driveby media television networks ^ | 29 April 2012 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 04/29/2012 5:02:32 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!

The Talk Shows



April 29th, 2012

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): John Brennan, President Obama’s top counterterrorism adviser.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Robert Gibbs, adviser to President Obama’s re-election campaign; Ed Gillespie, adviser to Mitt Romney’s campaign; Democratic strategist Hilary Rosen; Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers, R-Wash.

FACE THE NATION (CBS): Former Gov. Haley Barbour, R-Miss.; Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa; Gov. Jerry Brown, D-Calif.

THIS WEEK (ABC): Brennan; Carly Fiorina, former CEO of Hewlett-Packard; former Gov. Jennifer Granholm, D-Mich.; Eric Schmidt, executive chairman of Google; David Walker, ex-comptroller general.

STATE OF THE UNION (CNN): House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio; John Brennan, Obama’s top counterterrorism adviser; Govs. Bob McDonnell, R-Va., and Brian Schweitzer, D-Mont.


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To: mojitojoe
Barry just flies around on his plane and tries to find adoring crowds to feed his narcissism.

Have you noticed he only goes to schools - where the young and foolish hang out? Barry will occasionally speak to his union buddies, but other than that very few campaign trips speak to ADULTS.
101 posted on 04/29/2012 9:20:32 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: advertising guy

Yes, another Romney problem, having an argument for a Republican Super Majority Congress, he praises being able to work with Democrats and that gives the impression they might have some good ideas when it is their Stimulus and Health Care bills that are glaring of their failed ideas and the necessity of a Republican Super-Majority Congress to reverse legislative direction.


102 posted on 04/29/2012 9:25:43 AM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: FreedBird

At the WH Correspondents Dinner last night O said a couple of things not picked up by media: (1) there are numerous conspiracy theories about all the havoc I will wreck in a 2nd term... they are true (paraphrasing), and (2) some accuse me of blaming everything on my predecessor, but we have documented that my precedessor did it first {W blamed things on Bubba) (or somehting like that). Also as to Romney, they are already crediting Romneycare as their model, and for Mitt supposedly advising Bambi to do the Auto Bailout.

I personally do not think this works. It has become a joke (Blaming Bush)


103 posted on 04/29/2012 9:32:03 AM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: Rational Thought

No, you are completely wrong. It is because people here are tired of being attacked. I can name numerous sites that are quite enthusiastic. I suggest you pay attention to Twitter.

Alternatively, quit being an Eeyore. Gloom and negativity never won an election.


104 posted on 04/29/2012 9:40:06 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: chooseascreennamepat

.......................Does “Mad Cow” Maddow ever give a Republican the chance to finish a sentence................

Yeah the carpet muncher has been on two weeks in a row, spewing garbage. What a fast talking, attack dog, mad lesbian. I guess DNCNBC realizes that everyone looks at that toilet-brush headed Wasserman-Shultz is just a stupid joke.

And, then later Brian Williams, he with his kneepads, tried to tell us how tense the situation room was for the 48 hours after the One had personally ordered Binnie’s raid; and was spearheading the effort to get him; and was riveted to the TV screen.

He looked like a slouched over teenager, sitting in the corner, pissed that the SS wouldn’t let him putt out before dragging his ass back to our white hut!


105 posted on 04/29/2012 9:45:14 AM PDT by Noob1999 (Loose Lips, Sink Ships)
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To: All

Miss Marple’s handy tips on how to get enthusiastic about the election:

1. Supreme Court. Bork is advising Romney.
2. Foreign policy. John Bolton is advising Romney.
3. Ann Romney. I need not explain the improvement.
4. Exploding heads on TV if we win!
5. New York Times would be depressed if we win.
6. Axelrod no longer thought of as a genius.
7. Valerie Jarrett sent back to Chicago!
8. EPA will be seriously revamped.
9. No more Hollywood parties in White House!
10. No all Obama/all the time news channels!

Look, I supported Palin but she didn’t run. Then I supported Parry and he fizzled and quit. Romney has spent a lot of time building an organization and helping candidates over the last 3 years. He actually has a plan to win, I think.

Please try to get enthusiastic about getting Obama out. We don’t always understand why things don’t work out the way we wish. If you simply cannot support Romney, then please try not to depress everyone. It isn’t helpful at all. The tea party candidates for Senate and House would be helped immensely if Romney had coattails, so think about that when you get all gloomy!


106 posted on 04/29/2012 9:56:42 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Miss Marple

You go girl!


107 posted on 04/29/2012 10:01:59 AM PDT by surrey
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To: bray

Yes, we need to remember the top down races.

Maybe Romney will appoint Judge Bork to the bench if someone dies or retires (one or both is likely)

Wouldn’t that be a hoot !


108 posted on 04/29/2012 10:09:55 AM PDT by altura (If you are one of the abusers of Rick Perry, don't complain to me about Romney.)
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To: FreedBird

Who do you favor for veep?

It will be interesting to see who he picks.


109 posted on 04/29/2012 10:11:38 AM PDT by altura (If you are one of the abusers of Rick Perry, don't complain to me about Romney.)
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To: shalom aleichem

Well, Dubya did not blame things on Bubba, No. 1.

He was and is a nice guy.

Many think too nice.

I definitely do not appreciate the popular Bush bashing that occurs here too often.


110 posted on 04/29/2012 10:21:10 AM PDT by altura (I retired my tag line--it is now receiving social security.)
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To: rodguy911
Valerie Jarrett made them all and probably still does. She is the President of the US, its just that few know it.

I've kind of figured that was the case. I heard Rush say that Axelrod was. I think he's wrong on that one.

111 posted on 04/29/2012 10:21:20 AM PDT by stayathomemom (Beware of kittens modifying your posts.)
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To: Miss Marple

Amen, sister.

I keep telling people here that Obama and his nasty little crew of minions will be trashing Romney non-stop from here on out.

They will stop at nothing.

We do NOT need to help them by whining about Romney ourselves.


112 posted on 04/29/2012 10:23:21 AM PDT by altura (I retired my tag line--it is now receiving social security.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Slay the nation on CBS had democrat Gov. Moonbeam Brown from California on. Given the fact that the state is a train wreck and heading down the canyon and Moonbeam is pushing it along, I was hoping that he might get some questions on it. Instead it was love-fest between the two doddering old farts, Sieffert and Brown. I have never seen such puff-questions. “What do you think of the extremist Republicans” was the toughest one. That Sieffert has got to go. He never was any good and he is long past it.


113 posted on 04/29/2012 10:29:36 AM PDT by fifedom
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To: rodguy911
Yup, disgusting as presented by Brieitbart

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/04/26/Get-bin-laden-memo-CYA

MEMO FOR THE RECORD Apr. 29, 2011, 10:35 a.m.

Received phone call from Tom Donilon who stated that the President made a decision with regard to AC1 [Abbottabad Compound 1]. The decision is to proceed with the assault. The timing, operational decision making and control are in Admiral McRaven’s hands. The approval is provided on the risk profile presented to the President. Any additional risks are to be brought back to the President for his consideration. The direction is to go in and get bin Laden and if he is not there, to get out. Those instructions were conveyed to Admiral McRaven at approximately 10:45 am.

Now compare President Obama's handling of this moment in US History to that of then General Eisenhower on the day before D-Day (in case of failure). A digital copy of the message is below.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/usnationalarchives/3986780759/

Here is what the message said if you cannot read President Eisenhower's writing.

"Our landings in the Cherbourg-Havre area have failed to gain a satisfactory foothold and I have withdrawn the troops. My decision to attack at this time and place was based upon the best information available. The troops, the air and the Navy did all that Bravery and devotion to duty could do. If any blame or fault attaches to the attempt it is mine alone."

Below is a FreeRepublic Discussion of President Eisenhower's in case of failure message:
http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/1142906/posts

President Obama’s leadership seems shallow and cowardly compared to that of a REAL AMERICAN GENERAL who was fighting for America's Interests and therefore, the Free World's Interests. (The deal between FDR, another progressive, and Stalin aside).

Obama's snide, mean, shallow, immature, stupid comments and behavior soil the Presidency. Too bad Obama is so stupid he doesn't realize his idiocy making it impossible for him to improve.

President Obama needs some learning in the ways of true leadership, true courage, true class, true bravery, true honor, true humility and true humbleness. The comparison of then General Eisenhower behavior and President Obama's behavior (taking all the credit, going on TV and talking up a storm BEFORE all the facts were known) is an example of this. Obama's talking about this being such a tough decision makes We the People ill. Eisenhower's decision to go forward with Overlord (D-Day for the imbeciles in the White House) was a tough decision. NOT getting Bin Laden. THAT decision was made in the prior Presidency. Obama just had to follow through.

114 posted on 04/29/2012 10:44:08 AM PDT by Chgogal (WSJ, Coulter, Kristol, Krauthammer, Rove et al., STFU. Thank you.)
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To: altura

Hey, I did not say W bashed anyone. Your/Our/My president said it from his own lying mouth.


115 posted on 04/29/2012 10:57:24 AM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: stayathomemom

Right. Axelrod and Rahm had to leave The witch troika is still ensconced in power (Iranian born Valerie and the 2 Chi-town Robinson gals who paled arounf with Farakhaon clan)


116 posted on 04/29/2012 11:00:02 AM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: Cheerio

Scary scenarios there cheerio. I hope you are wrong on both counts.


117 posted on 04/29/2012 11:00:58 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: shalom aleichem

I knew what you meant. Anyone who thinks we should not get this guy out of the White House should go watch that White House Correspondents dinner performance of his.

Nasty, vulgar, mean-spirited, and in your face. He’s a thug, pure and simple.

I am working on Twitter at reminding some of the reporters how nicely the Bush administration treated them. Also I remind them that they are in the same country as the rest of us, and that their children are also going to suffer.

Probably won’t work on most of them, but I think a few might be having second thoughts.


118 posted on 04/29/2012 11:03:38 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Noob1999

Was Brian calling in from NASCAR headquarters?


119 posted on 04/29/2012 11:03:42 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: Miss Marple

Amen! I’m so glad you’re still coming to this thread!


120 posted on 04/29/2012 11:04:27 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Miss Marple
Great post MM its that old reality slapping us all in the face once again. Sometimes you just have to face up to it.
121 posted on 04/29/2012 11:05:47 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Well, I will continue to come as long as I can do some good.

I figure sooner or later someone will complain about me, but if I don’t speak up because they have intimidated me, how brave is that?

Really, I am convinced we have got to get Obama out and Romney is our best chance. Sometimes the Lord doesn’t give us what we want, but what we need.


122 posted on 04/29/2012 11:07:12 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: stayathomemom
Actually it's been a sort of free for all every since zero was elected.

Some of the big players have been axel,moochhell, Valerie the presumed current winner, Rhambo, and historically Daley.Many think that other mopes like soros and maybe even Pootie shout in from the chorus from time to time as well.

123 posted on 04/29/2012 11:08:36 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: Miss Marple

That is a great idea MM. Thanks for that effort. We have to try everything, and keep summoning all those who can make a difference (e.g. media, “ordinary” folks, office holders) back over to the good side. We should not just cede them to the dark side and make our task that much more formidible. I do not think our nominee really wants to take on a monolithic media and unified left. Maybe Newt would welcome such a challenge. But Dole and McCain certainly withered in the spotlight, having reduced their life’s ambition to attaining the nomination because it was “their turn”.


124 posted on 04/29/2012 11:10:22 AM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: All

John Brennan now on FNS saying we don’t want to distrurb the mad muzzies by showing pictures of the fake OBL we killed.(He forgot to say fake)


125 posted on 04/29/2012 11:10:40 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: shalom aleichem

Oh, I know. Sorry if you misunderstood. I was replying to what Obama said, not what you said.


126 posted on 04/29/2012 11:10:55 AM PDT by altura (I retired my tag line--it is now receiving social security.)
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To: Miss Marple

Amen, friend! Amen!

(I’d add “Eric Holder out” to your list!)


127 posted on 04/29/2012 11:15:37 AM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: altura

OK. Thanks for clarifying. For those who have not seen O’s speech to the knee-padded White House Correspondents, they really should hear it: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/04/28/president_obama_addresses_the_2012_white_house_correspondents_dinner.html

A more petulant, snarky, mean-spirited child we will NEVER again encounter on the national stage. Thorough Vetting is supposed to occur (by party structure, the voters and by media). A major intel failure. A mole in our midst. Everyone of America’s enemies is synthesized into this person’s agenda. And when he runs low on venom, his hate-filled, Rev. Wright instructed wife is his refueling tanker.


128 posted on 04/29/2012 11:21:43 AM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: All

Here is a long snipped from the dollar site about what may well have happened,is it 100%?I don’t know.Read it and decide for yourself.

Q: What changed the president’s position and enabled the attack against Osama Bin Laden to proceed?

A: Nothing changed with the president’s opinion – he continued to avoid having one. Every time military and intelligence officials appeared to make progress in forming a position, Jarrett would intervene and the stalling would begin again. Hillary started the ball really rolling as far as pressuring Obama began, but it was Panetta and Petraeus who ultimately pushed Obama to finally act – sort of. Panetta was receiving significant reports from both his direct CIA sources, as well as Petraeus-originating Intel. Petraeus was threatening to act on his own via a bombing attack. Panetta reported back to the president that a bombing of the compound would result in successful killing of Osama Bin Laden, and little risk to American lives. Initially, as he had done before, the president indicated a willingness to act. But once again, Jarrett intervened, convincing the president that innocent Pakistani lives could be lost in such a bombing attack, and Obama would be left attempting to explain Panetta’s failed policy. Again Obama hesitated – this time openly delaying further meetings to discuss the issue with Panetta. A brief meeting was held at this time with other officials, including Secretary Gates and members of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, but Gates, like Panetta, was unable to push the president to act. It was at this time that Gates indicated to certain Pentagon officials that he may resign earlier than originally indicated – he was that frustrated. Both Panetta and Clinton convinced him to stay on and see the operation through.

What happened from there is what was described by me as a “masterful manipulation” by Leon Panetta. Panetta indicated to Obama that leaks regarding knowledge of Osama Bin Laden’s location were certain to get out sooner rather than later, and action must be taken by the administration or the public backlash to the president’s inaction would be “…significant to the point of political debilitation.” It was at that time that Obama stated an on-ground campaign would be far more acceptable to him than a bombing raid. This was intended as a stalling tactic, and it had originated from Jarrett. Such a campaign would take both time, and present a far greater risk of failure. The president had been instructed by Jarrett to inform Mr., Panetta that he would have sole discretion to act against the Osama Bin Laden compound. Jarrett believed this would further delay Panetta from acting, as the responsibility for failure would then fall almost entirely on him. What Valerie Jarrett, and the president, did not know is that Leon Panetta had already initiated a program that reported to him –and only him, involving a covert on the ground attack against the compound. Basically, the whole damn operation was already ready to go – including the specific team support Intel necessary to engage the enemy within hours of being given notice. Panetta then made plans to proceed with an on-ground assault. This information reached either Hillary Clinton or Robert Gates first (likely via military contacts directly associated with the impending mission) who then informed the other. Those two then met with Panetta, who informed each of them he had been given the authority by the president to proceed with a mission if the opportunity presented itself. Both Gates and Clinton warned Panetta of the implications of that authority – namely he was possibly being made into a scapegoat. Panetta admitted that possibility, but felt the opportunity to get Bin Laden outweighed that risk. During that meeting, Hillary Clinton was first to pledge her full support for Panetta, indicating she would defend him if necessary. Similar support was then followed by Gates. The following day, and with Panetta’s permission, Clinton met in private with Bill Daley and urged him to get the president’s full and open approval of the Panetta plan. Daley agreed such approval would be of great benefit to the action, and instructed Clinton to delay proceeding until he had secured that approval. Daley contacted Clinton within hours of their meeting indicating Jarrett refused to allow the president to give that approval. Daley then informed Clinton that he too would fully support Panetta in his actions, even if it meant disclosing the president’s indecision to the American public should that action fail to produce a successful conclusion. Clinton took that message back to Panetta and the CIA director initiated the 48 hour engagement order. At this point, the President of the United States was not informed of the engagement order – it did not originate from him, and for several hours after the order had been given and the special ops forces were preparing for action into Pakistan from their position in Afghanistan, Daley successfully kept Obama and Jarrett insulated from that order.

This insulation ended at some point with an abort order that I believe originated from Valerie Jarrett’s office, and was then followed up by President Obama. This abort order was later explained as a delay due to weather conditions, but the actual conditions at that time would have been acceptable for the mission. A storm system had been in the area earlier, but was no longer an issue. Check the data yourself to confirm. Jarrett, having been caught off guard, was now scrambling to determine who had initiated the plan. She was furious, repeating the acronym “CoC” and saying it was not being followed. This is where Bill Daley intervened directly. The particulars of that intervention are not clear to me beyond knowing he did meet with Jarrett in his office and following that meeting, Valerie Jarrett was not seen in the West Wing for some time, and apparently no longer offered up any resistance to the Osama Bin Laden mission. What did follow from there was one or more brief meetings between Bill Daley, Hillary Clinton, a representative from Robert Gates’ office, a representative from Leon Panetta’s office, and a representative from Jim Clapper’s office. I have to assume that these meetings were in essence, detailing the move to proceed with the operation against the Osama Bin Laden compound. I have been told by more than one source that Leon Panetta was directing the operation with both his own CIA operatives, as well as direct contacts with military – both entities were reporting to Panetta only at this point, and not the President of the United States. There was not going to be another delay as had happened 24 hour earlier. The operation was at this time effectively unknown to President Barack Obama or Valerie Jarrett and it remained that way until AFTER it had already been initiated. President Obama was literally pulled from a golf outing and escorted back to the White House to be informed of the mission. Upon his arrival there was a briefing held which included Bill Daley, John Brennan, and a high ranking member of the military. When Obama emerged from the briefing, he was described as looking “very confused and uncertain.” The president was then placed in the situation room where several of the players in this event had already been watching the operation unfold. Another interesting tidbit regarding this is that the Vice President was already “up to speed” on the operation. A source indicated they believe Hillary Clinton had personally made certain the Vice President was made aware of that day’s events before the president was. The now famous photo released shows the particulars of that of that room and its occupants. What that photo does not communicate directly is that the military personnel present in that room during the operation unfolding, deferred to either Hillary Clinton or Robert Gates. The president’s role was minimal, including their acknowledging of his presence in the room.

At the conclusion of the mission, after it had been repeatedly confirmed a success, President Obama was once again briefed behind closed doors. The only ones who went in that room besides the president were Bill Daley. John Brennan, and a third individual whose identity remains unknown to me. When leaving this briefing, the president came out of it “…much more confident. Much more certain of himself.” He was also carrying papers in his hand that quite possibly was the address to the nation given later that evening on the Bin Laden mission. The president did not have those papers with him prior to that briefing. The president then returned to the war room, where by this time, Leon Panetta had personally arrived and was receiving congratulations from all who were present.

In my initial communication to you of these events I described what unfolded as a temporary Coup initiated by high ranking intelligence and military officials. I stand by that term. These figures worked around the uncertainty of President Obama and the repeated resistance of Valerie Jarrett. If they had not been willing to do so, I am certain Osama Bin Laden would still be alive today. There will be no punishment to those who acted outside the authority of the president’s office. The president cannot afford to admit such a fact. What will be most interesting from here is to now see what becomes of Valerie Jarrett. One source indicated she is threatening resignation. I find that unlikely given my strong belief she needs the protection afforded her by the Oval Office and its immense powers to delay and eventually terminate investigations back in Chicago.We shall see.


129 posted on 04/29/2012 11:26:07 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: Rational Thought
You can't comment on anything if no one posts what was said. The first thing every Sunday I used to do was to check this thread. We would have around 500 comments as posters would transcribe what was being said on the shows for the people who weren't able to see the shows.

Now this thread is about Florida Keys weather and how to make bread pudding.

130 posted on 04/29/2012 11:28:12 AM PDT by philo
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To: shalom aleichem

That’s exactly why I have zero qualms about voting for Romney.

And, as Miss Marple said, we could look at the lovely and classy Ann Romney instead of You Know Who.


131 posted on 04/29/2012 11:41:44 AM PDT by altura (I retired my tag line--it is now receiving social security.)
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To: philo

That’s why I don’t go on the Texas threads. anyway, those people scare me.

Was there a good bread pudding recipe? I missed it.

Doesn’t matter, I cannot have any more sweets until I lose ten pounds.


132 posted on 04/29/2012 11:52:22 AM PDT by altura (I retired my tag line--it is now receiving social security.)
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To: philo

There was some nice gal who would post what was said on the shows. I usually watched them later because of church.

But, truthfully, the Sunday Shows have become so boring and predictable, they aren’t that interesting.

However, I still enjoy this thread because of the rare displays of common sense one finds here.


133 posted on 04/29/2012 11:54:33 AM PDT by altura (I retired my tag line--it is now receiving social security.)
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To: Miss Marple
Please try to get enthusiastic about getting Obama out. We don’t always understand why things don’t work out the way we wish.

Right.

Romney may be way down on a lot of people's list for President (I know he was right near the bottom on mine), but to quote *Donald Rumsfeld*, "You go to war with the army you've got - not the one you wish you had!".

Right now, Romney is the nominee of the army we've got. It's unfortunate it is he whom we are stuck with (I'm still voting for Newt in our Primary, and I have donated liberally to him).

But we must keep the strategic goal in mind: just who is the most dangerous and lethal enemy we face? This may be our last chance to stop them and forestall the more extreme and painful future lurking out there on the horizon.

If we fail that which is now realistically set before us in the most important task looming before us concerning the future of our lives, liberty and country, it is not going to lead to anything pretty on any level. Frankly, you can think "Soviet Union" or "Bosnia" and likely not be too far off the mark.

We have a choice. Not the best, but a choice. Unfortunately, we are not always presented with the ideal choice or can choose the best answer. We had best not blow this chance (as unsatisfactory as some may think it is) or we may never get another.

At one time, the weak Duma, the Mensheviks, and Alexander Kerensky and the Socialist Revolutionary Party looked like a pretty poor choice to a lot of Russians after the Tsars were overthrown. But was it really? The endless grumbling and competing factions of the various competing groups on the "White" side ended in them losing everything in a civil war with the weaker but unified "Reds" who were a distinct minority but who held the militarily strategic interior lines and a government which they had installed by force but which had not yet revealed it's ultimate evil nature.

I think we face much the same situation today. We can fight out the details, but only after our side wins. Trying to do it now before we win is the sure way to lose it all - just as the Whites did. Forget all our competing factions. The main goal should be not to let the Reds win!

134 posted on 04/29/2012 11:59:41 AM PDT by Gritty (Like Lenin, Obama's aim is to make things worse to make them better - James Lewis)
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To: philo

Be sure and stop by again. I don’t know how we got along without all your input....


135 posted on 04/29/2012 12:06:46 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: Gritty

Gritty, what an EXCELLENT analogy, and one I may use elsewhere, if you don’t mind.

The control of the US government has been a dream of the left and a long time coming. We simply cannot allow them to maintain control, for, like you, I see a terrible furutre if we do not prevail this fall.

We need to remember that we were not given choices of perfect canidates, only those flawed in one way or another, some through political ineptness, some through personal foibles, and some through weak ideology.

I have a strong practical streak and although Romney and I disagree on a great many issues, he’s good enough for the current times. People should not underestimate the ruthless streak he usually keeps hidden, the smartness of the guy, the effect of Ann and those handsome and successful boys, and the story of his father, who rose from selling paint out of the back of his car to running American motors, running for president, and then becoming a cabinet secretary.

The Army we have is Romney. So let’s choose to help him defend our cause the best we can, rather than tearing him down to prove a point. Should we choose the latter course, generations yet unborn will not thank us, but will curse our memories.


136 posted on 04/29/2012 12:13:55 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: rodguy911; snugs

I like hearing about fishing around the Keys and I also looked/look forward to Snugs’ sunday menus for her pop (with photos). Please keep it up.


137 posted on 04/29/2012 12:14:30 PM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: Miss Marple

Yes, they need a reality check.


138 posted on 04/29/2012 12:27:37 PM PDT by mtnwmn (Liberalism leads to Socialism)
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To: altura

Anybody watch the This Week roundtable with liar Krugman spewing lie after lie? He claims we do not have higher corporate tax rates than any other nation and higher taxes in states doesn’t run business off.

Tell that to California and Oregon who are losing businesses right and left or WI who is getting IL businesses.
What a fraud.


139 posted on 04/29/2012 12:28:13 PM PDT by bray (Power to We the People)
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To: shalom aleichem

Blaming someone else is childish. He needs to be corrected but it doesn’t seem anyone has the courage to do what is right. The media is bought off.


140 posted on 04/29/2012 12:29:16 PM PDT by FreedBird
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To: shalom aleichem

Thanks shalom. Seems there is always a cry baby in the crowd.
By the way we had two boats last week that released 47 and 50 sailfish in a single day.
Another boat had 8 Tiger sharks in two weeks from 400-800 lbs. Some of the battles lasting over four hours to catch and release the huge sharks.


141 posted on 04/29/2012 12:29:40 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: bray

I saw snippets of it. Why is it,Krugman’s eyes always look like he just grabbed a handful of controlled substances and chugged them all before coming on the air? He’s a piece of work.


142 posted on 04/29/2012 12:31:54 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: altura

West would be the best V.P. pick but I think he will go for Rubio.


143 posted on 04/29/2012 12:33:02 PM PDT by FreedBird
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To: rodguy911

Now the commie libs are claiming GM and Chrysler are great success stories and laughing at the Conservatives. Krugman’s answer to this recession is to hire back the 200K teachers who have been laid off. Yeah, that should pull us out.

He is also claiming private sector jobs are back to their original levels. He forgets to mention those who quit looking and doesn’t mention the housing industry.

It is bigger gummit all the time.


144 posted on 04/29/2012 12:41:55 PM PDT by bray (Power to We the People)
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To: Cheerio

Now Krugman is claiming Social InSecurity is fine. All we have to do is improve the economy which means more gummit stimulus. Then finally claims the poor are not living as long as the rich, let’s see his source on that lame claim. Those evil rich.


145 posted on 04/29/2012 12:45:17 PM PDT by bray (Power to We the People)
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To: Cheerio

If we can get the “crazies” (Tea Party) out of Congress we can solve these economic problems.


146 posted on 04/29/2012 12:46:32 PM PDT by bray (Power to We the People)
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To: altura; philo; Alas Babylon!; rodguy911; All
There was some nice gal who would post what was said on the shows. I usually watched them later because of church.

My memory is a bit foggy these days, but I believe that was a dear, sweet soul named Bahbah who died a couple of years ago. AB! will remember. She was greatly loved and still missed by some.

I post very infrequently these days, primarily for two reasons.

First, certain deteriorating health issues make it extremely painful for me to type anything longer than brief comments. However, this thread and most of the regulars here are still part of the main reasons I keep reading FR regularly. It remains for the most part an oasis of civility, logic and informed commentary amid the rising tide of venom and vituperation sweeping through so many of the forum discussions. The folks here are the best of Free Republic - I've made a few good friends, and the rest tolerate me with courtesy and respect, even when I go off on what some consider some pretty wild tangents... /g

The second reason I don't post often is, as I shared with rodguy some time back, my assessment of our situation is significantly more dire than most are prepared to accept, and I have no wish nor would it serve any purpose to spread my pessimism around and discourage others.

Despite my pessimism, however, I believe it is still necessary for us to keep fighting, each in our own way and according to our own abilities. Members like bray, rodguy, Fishtalk, kabar and others are in the trenches fighting, and for that they have my utmost admiration. AB! in sponsoring this thread does his part, and all bring something to the table.

The bottom line is that no matter how dire the situation may be it remains our responsibility to continue the struggle, because we are literally at the point described so eloquently and chillingly by Churchill:

“If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may be even a worse fate. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish then to live as slaves.”

This election is not business as usual, it is an existential decision point, not just for the USA, but for Western civilization itself, because if America fails to rise from the current crisis and falls into the beckoning abyss of tyranny, it's going to drag the rest of the world with it.

We (the constitutional Republic of the Founders) are still the last, best hope for freedom. I just hope enough of us can wake up and remember it in time.

Thanks to all who participate, and to any for whom I failed to give proper credit above please forgive my flagging memory.

147 posted on 04/29/2012 12:53:57 PM PDT by tarheelswamprat
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To: bray

Rosen has her commie cliches back down pat. She has no clue about mothers whose children are not a political statement.


148 posted on 04/29/2012 12:58:25 PM PDT by bray (Power to We the People)
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To: rodguy911

“....all we hear from the regime is that we have 2% of the reserves and use 25% of the oil.”

The statistic isn’t complete. We use 25% of the world’s yearly petroleum output to create 40% of the world’s goods and services. It doesn’t fit the left’s agenda to recognize that we are already the world’s most efficient user of petro chemicals.......The world has a long way to catch up with us.


149 posted on 04/29/2012 1:02:29 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (The barely bare, berry bear formerly known as..........Ursus Arctos Horribilis.)
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To: bray

Is Madcommie the most condescending person on the planet. Continually interrupts and lies and goes back to the false cliches.


150 posted on 04/29/2012 1:03:12 PM PDT by bray (Power to We the People)
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