Skip to comments.Let's put this to bed. We have bigger fish to fry.
Posted on 04/27/2012 4:56:50 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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You are welcome! I like your backbone!
In time, perhaps dialogue can return to FR.
Right now we are off doing what the dems, libs, RINOs and the LAM want us to do.
Once we stop playing from their puppet string, define the main problem and unify, we will be a force that will be unstoppable.
But first we have to sever the puppet strings - - - .
Right! What we have is a bunch of image-conscious, guilt-ridden, Republicans, and they have come to expect, and enjoy the masochistic delight of being beat up by who they consider to be their betters. I call them RINOs.
Always fearful of being rejected by others, these RINOs cave in to the Democrats, approve of all excutative dictatorial usurptions of power by the White House Occupier of the day, and compromise-away their principles so as not to offend conservative Democrats, independents, and every damn minority that they can think of.
Thus, the RINO Party has become that mealy-mouthed, non-party: The Independents.
I would be highly suspect of ANY Committee-based platform plank that we will hear about in Tampa.
BTW, what is the differenced between a “watered-down” and a “hosed-down” Platform? ( Bring your hipboots, just to be safe.)
Thanks! Each of us has at least one idea of what the main problem is. Hopefully, my posts will create an environment where reasoned discussion is productive.
Posting on FR is okay for the moment, but I prefer to be involved in results.
Read, ponder and ping me with your answers to the three questions that I posed in comment # 2254 above. Thanks!
Yes. It really is that simple.
I can see right now that you are VERY intelligent, because you agree with ME!
I agree. Conservatives have not only the RINO nominee to to be wary of we as well have to watch closely those who seek to water down the GOP platform -both RINOs and Libertarians alike are intent on doing this.
435 elected representatives who value their feathered nest and power more than the continuation of the greatest experiment ever undertaken.
A president who in fact is a foreign national, bent on destruction of the aforementioned experiment, seen as a threat to the very foundation of his and his ancestors' existence.
A growing cancer on state houses filled with persons of ill repute who see no problem in bartering away the treasures of the citizens for a few votes designed to keep them in power.
A national media, populated with dyed in the wool socialists who think the only reason it has failed everywhere is due to insufficient money to carry out the plan. This time they will prevail.
Avowed, documented treasonous bastards actually sitting on the bench on the United States Supreme Court.
Finally, a voting public who thinks debate, and an election, will solve the stranglehold that is in place on the ship as it continues it's death spiral.
Before it falls through the cracks . . . I’ll take a stab at it . . .
Now are getting somewhere in our spirited discussion!
We are not here to please everybody!
If we can define who we are not, then we are at liberty to focus on the problems to be solved.
1.) What is the problem? [One problem at a time, please].
2.) Who owns the problem?
3.) What would Jesus do to solve the problem?
HERE WE GO!
Please answer the following question:
1.) What is the problem?
REBELLION AGAINST GOD
Idolizing man and man’s rebellious ways as right, good . . .
calling evil good and good evil.
satanic globalism has been in more or less charge of the institutions of our planet for at least decades cultivating such rebellion and calling of evil good and good evil.
We can pussy foot around about secondary evidence and consequences but the root is there.
And, therefore . . . individual spiritual and collective spiritual strategies, imho, MUST be first and foremost unless we just want to sit around in mental masturbation groups pretending that’s going to get anywhere.
The evidence on the abortion front is reasonably clear.
All the marches and speeches in the Nation have been a drop in the bucket in effectiveness compared to the fasting and prayer efforts of CHRISTIANS ACROSS DENOMINATIONAL BOUNDARIES MEETING AND FASTING AND PRAYING TOGETHER ON THE PROBLEM.
THAT kind of strategy has resulted in abortion clinics being closed and their owners falling over dead—sometimes within a week or so of the beginning of the prayer project.
We have a compulsive human tendency to put our hand out to steady the Ark on the ox cart.
i.e. WE WILL DO IT WILLFULLY, STUBBORNLY HUMANLY IN THE FLESH FIRST AND FOREMOST.
And death results whether instantly or over a period of time.
We have to take up our crosses, die daily and SEEK GOD’S FACE IN EVERY SITUATION MOMENT BY MOMENT.
NO OTHER SOLUTION is a REAL solution.
All other ‘solutions’ are white-wash or worse.
Wellllllll . . . that’s as good as I can do at the moment.
Thanks for asking.
Now we’ll have the harpies whine about this not being in the Religion Forum.
Why does the Lord smoke cigars and allow Billy Jeff indulge himself for eight years, and Obama for 4, without righteous zotting taking place.
For that matter, why the other cheek, if you will, while all kinds of major mass murders against his very creation take place for the last few thousand (that we are aware of)years have taken place?
If you start a thread in the Rel Forum . . . with serious questions . . . maybe I’ll reply further.
Now, while none are without sin, some seem to have a lot more (ongoing) practice than others, and do so while violating solemn oaths and the public trust.
So, should we pick the 'outstanding sinner of the week' and pray for them to quit and renounce their sin and love Jesus or drop dead within seven days? Or maybe just have God lift their responsibilities from them (instead of dropping dead). (The psychological ramifications of knowing there were millions of people praying for your conversion, loss of power and wealth, or natural demise would be something else, so this is a semi-serious question.)
I'm not goofing off, here, and seriously wonder what God would think of such a project.
After all, (and this is the source of true freedom), whatever happens here is only temporary. It might, on occasion be miserable, but eternity is more permanent and I'd prefer to stay in God's good Graces as much as humanly possible.
There sure seemed to be a strong opposition to him coming from you even though you now claim to not know. A little more study and information may be in order before you publicly condemn the man.
If Mitt is the candidate Im writing in and voting down ticket. The GOPe have gotten us to this point knowing that whatever candidate they put up the masses will vote for the lesser of two evils just like good sheep following an evil master. The hes not as bad as the other guy mentality has to stop. If conservatives dont once and for all understand that if they dont stand they fall its over anyway. The lesser of two evils mentality has led to the slow decline of this nation and I wont participate any longer.
I have found a viable prayer is to pray something like:
Dear Lord, Please bring ___________ to a place of confession, repentance and a lasting Salvation Relationship with you, by your Spirit in the Blood of Jesus.
Lord, *IF* IN YOUR OMNISCIENT FORE-KNOWING WISDOM, you KNOW _______ will never repent or come to a saving knowledge of Christ, THEN, Please, Lord,
IN YOUR WISDOM AND ACCORDING TO YOUR PRIORITIES AND WILL, cause ___________’s poison and destructiveness to be neutralized in whatever way would most benefit your Kingdom. If at all in your Will, at least, please remove them from all power and position that could be used to harm your Church and other innocents. In Jesus’ Name.
Thanks, FRiend. Maybe we should get a couple of prayer threads going...
Here's a review on Amazon mentioning a 1995 collaboration with Toffler (book was published March 1995):
Here's a great article by Chuck Colson I ran into along the way:
Here's a Christianity Today article on his Baptism as a ?liberal? Baptist:
He evidently remains a member of the CFR.
I have been unable to find any repentance and refutation of his globalist values and goals since any purported conversion.
He evidently became an RC in 2009 to join his 3rd wife--a former Capital Hill staffer, in her religion.
He was Southern Regional Director for globalist Nelson Rockefeller in 1968.
From his Wiki article:
From the Washington Post: What Kind of [Roman] Catholic is Newt Gingrich?
In summary . . . I find nothing that utterly convinces me of the authenticity of his 'conversion,' at a heart level to a thorough going loyalty to Jesus The Christ.
He has a life long history of decisions and actions convenient to his goals, preferences and predilections at the time.
I have learned of absolutely not the faintest hint of his renouncing his secret society and globalist values, allegiances and goals.
At this point, I'll continue to be wary and skeptical. If and when he becomes more convincing about his relationship with Jesus--PRAISE GOD, I'LL BE HAPPY TO CHEER HIM ON.
At this point, my best guess is that his loyalty to his secret society brothers and to globalism still ranks higher than his loyalty to Jesus--which would likely mean that from Jesus' standpoint, Newt is not at all sold out to Jesus sufficiently to warrant the label "Christian." One cannot serve 2 masters--satan and Jesus. And globalists do NOT serve Jesus The Christ as Lord and Savior.
(Was Newt floated JUST to pander to CONSERVATIVES and to fragment the GOP and disenfranchise true conservatives (and even moderates)?)
Membership Roster (as of May 02, 2012)
CFR Membership roster- letter G
Council On Foreign Relations (indepth)
FreeRepublic.com-Council On Foreign Relations (indepth)
The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful one world government. - Admiral Chester Ward former CFR member and Judge Advocate General of the U.S. Navy
Yes. I absolutely believe that Newt was
designed, set up and ordered
to be the current point person or one of the current point persons in leading the game playing and manipulations with conservatives by the globalists.
“I do too. Its why I find it so disconcerting that people who call themselves conservatives are so working to help him get a second term. Mind boggling.”
Actually I find so sad that people are forced into bending backwards to support Romney a rino who is unconservative and will sell out the party. Both Obama and Romney are bad choices.
The GOP and Conservatievs have done a good job of scaring people about Obama and rightly so; so then Why didn’t the “dumbasses” pick someone better as our nominee. The base and the party are going to collapse over Romney. So what we are seeing is the problems that are occurring by nominating Romney against Obama.
And the problems have just begun. It’s going to get worse because both guys suck. I’m voting for Virgil Goode. And it is a Vote For Virgil because Romney is a loser and Obama is a loser. My hands were tied. I dislike them both equally.
A romney term will be a disaster of epic porportions for republicans as much as a second Obama term.
"If Romney opposed Obaama I would at least make a favorable reference to him in the House of Commons and on FR." /Winston Churchill>
Daniel 4 27 Therefore, O king, let my advice be acceptable to you; break off your sins by being righteous, and your iniquities by showing mercy to the poor. Perhaps there may be a lengthening of your prosperity.
So, how'd that work out?
28 All this came upon King Nebuchadnezzar. 29 At the end of the twelve months he was walking about the royal palace of Babylon. 30 The king spoke, saying, Is not this great Babylon, that I have built for a royal dwelling by my mighty power and for the honor of my majesty?
31 While the word was still in the kings mouth, a voice fell from heaven: King Nebuchadnezzar, to you it is spoken: the kingdom has departed from you! 32 And they shall drive you from men, and your dwelling shall be with the beasts of the field. They shall make you eat grass like oxen; and seven times shall pass over you, until you know that the Most High rules in the kingdom of men, and gives it to whomever He chooses.
33 That very hour the word was fulfilled concerning Nebuchadnezzar; he was driven from men and ate grass like oxen; his body was wet with the dew of heaven till his hair had grown like eagles feathers and his nails like birds claws.
I’ve worked with several CFR members in the past such as General Al Haig, President Bush 41 (when he was VP), Secretary Harold Brown and others. They didn’t seem odd at the time.
My 90 year old step-father is still saying “BS” to most globalism stuff.
What is your perspective at this point in your life, after working with such folks?
What %% are you convinced that the globalists are racing to:
____% 1. Destroy The USA’s sovereignty in favor of a global government?
____% 2. Bring the USA to her knees if not destroy most of what we know about her to enable easier, more unfettered overt establishment of the global government?
_____% 3. FURTHER destroy the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights?
_____% 4. Bring foreign troops into the USA under the pretense of training and exercises but in fact to help take guns from Americans and incarcerate etc. the 25 million uncooperative Americans who are hostile to globalism?
5. And from what you’ve seen this past year, what timeline would you give on any of the major globalist goals?
6. What timeline would you give on full economic collapse?
7. What timeline would you give on WW3?
It’s like whack-a-mole.
As I have said for years on many topics, “This is Jim’s sandbox and I’m just a guest”.