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Let's put this to bed. We have bigger fish to fry.
April 27, 2012 | 2ndDivisionVet

Posted on 04/27/2012 4:56:50 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: mojitojoe

Yes, but how many of them are going to remember their usernames and passwords?


1,241 posted on 04/27/2012 9:17:41 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: Eaker

Well said!

Well said, indeed.


1,242 posted on 04/27/2012 9:20:47 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: DJ MacWoW

No there hasn’t. Reagan was a good politician, he played to win. He did not try to limit his supporters, but broaden his appeal to as many as possible. He was not a my way or the highway type of guy. He was a team player, a great teammate. He made everyone in the GOP coalition feel part of something larger. He wouldn’t stomp all over a Tom Kean because he was what today is called a RINO. He understood that the politics of every region of this country is different. He worked with a Kean to move the ball of free enterprise, strong defense down the field. His best feature was his ability to communicate Conservatism in a clear and intelligent manner.


1,243 posted on 04/27/2012 9:20:53 PM PDT by gusty
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To: Quix
SOMETIMES it SEEMS like their greatest claim to glory and their greatest pride is convincing themselves that they've successfully played Jim like a piano against the FREEPERS they personally despise for mysterious reasons.

And that perception's just extrapolated reasonably from those significant numbers who have voluntarily bothered to comment to me. And they think my supportive-of-FR almost regardless replies to them are merely my own suck-up naivete and need for daddy Jim's approval emotionally and psychodynamically.

Amen, see the hit posts on me on this thread. I was slandered by a closet case and stalked by a drunk. And ya wonder why I was having fun on our Whale Wars Thread!!!

1,244 posted on 04/27/2012 9:21:11 PM PDT by Dengar01 (Go Bulls!!! Go White Sox!!!)
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To: bigheadfred

Well, it’s gray now, but I am Italian and still had black hair in 1980.


1,245 posted on 04/27/2012 9:21:51 PM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: Moorings
The posting history of some of these people, who would like JR to give up his site to them for Romney pushing, is quite revealing. Certain posters who joined the libs to trash Palin personally are the ones who are suddenly calling for unity behind Milt.

Yep, some freepers have merely moved over to support the GOP nominee while holding their nose, but there are many here who are just old liberal, anti-social conservatives who are using Romney to advance the same liberalism that they have been pushing during all their time here.

They also enjoy using Romney's skirts to hide behind as they tweak and snip at the conservatives who have been annoying them for so many years.

It will get much worse in time, they are loving their success with getting a Romney in as head of the GOP and keeping it out of the hands of the conservatives.

1,246 posted on 04/27/2012 9:21:55 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: McLynnan

He doesn’t just stand at the Rio Grande, he has a welcome wagon parked there.


1,247 posted on 04/27/2012 9:22:15 PM PDT by altura (If you are one of the abusers of Rick Perry, don't complain to me about Romney.)
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To: gusty
His message was conservatism. And he pulled the Rinos along with him.

I miss him. Sounds like you do too.

1,248 posted on 04/27/2012 9:23:16 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: TheOldLady
but I am Italian

I knew there was something I liked about you! ;)

So am I.

1,249 posted on 04/27/2012 9:24:17 PM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemies of freedom. Be Andrew Breitbart.)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative; McLynnan; ladyvet
We even had some folks very early on who were trying to say Sarah Palin wasnt a real consetvative.... WTF ?

Yup, I've seen those posts. Quite frankly, I no longer understand what's up or down, right or wrong on this site anymore.

1,250 posted on 04/27/2012 9:25:23 PM PDT by nutmeg (Rest in Peace, and THANK YOU, Andrew Breitbart)
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To: DJ MacWoW

He did not pull them. His genius was that they followed him freely.


1,251 posted on 04/27/2012 9:26:51 PM PDT by gusty
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To: McLynnan

I think it depends...a few days ago a poster proclaimed that she was an “idiot” for indicating she’d support Romney if he ran against Obama. I don’t recall that poster being censured; presumably because he was on the right side of the issue that trumps all other issues.


1,252 posted on 04/27/2012 9:27:33 PM PDT by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: Quix
"MEAN GIRLS" DING DING DING!!! That is what I was trying to think of when I was referencing the American Idol / X-Factor poster along with his minions. He's like that creepy Jim Jones type character in a made for TV movie where he has followers just willing to drink koolaid for him. Google probably has the archive of it. Getting the goon to actually respond to me was entertaining as he "vowed" never to talk to me again, then slandered me saying I made death threats! If that were true I would have been banned.

Oh well let's see he has a few more weeks of American Idol with his girlfriends where they can act like Mean Girls. He actually is like a male Joy Behar when I think of it. Using that crappy cliche sarcastic attacks trying to sound sophisticated when he's probably using a thesaurus in Microsoft Word to make himself sound smart!

1,253 posted on 04/27/2012 9:28:11 PM PDT by Dengar01 (Go Bulls!!! Go White Sox!!!)
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To: gusty

Nitpicker. Okay. He lead them. :-)


1,254 posted on 04/27/2012 9:28:33 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: McLynnan
The attacks were personal, not philosphical or based on fact, and the moderators allowed it against almost anybody who supported Perry.

I know the attacks happened (I received plenty of them for supporting Perry), but this site (and others) were just overwhelmed with it for awhile. I just don't see what the FR moderators could have realistically done. We just kinda had to get through that. I just don't blame the owner of this site or its moderators for the flood of anti-Perry stuff. It was just so much for awhile I don't think there was a practical way to stop it short of draconian methods that would have ended up causing even more problems. I think this was the direct result of Sarah Palin's actions. Her endless tease campaign caused a lot of damage to our primaries. A LOT of conservatives were so sure she was going to run and were determined to help clear the way for her - Perry (at least for awhile) was the most obvious threat to her candidacy. While Sarah was still dithering, there was a great risk that his campaign could have raised lots of money and established itself as the de-facto anti-Romney candidate. Lots of analysts were already declaring the primary was Perry's to lose. Many active Palin supporters simply went in to war room, overdrive mode and sought to destroy Rick before he could endanger a Palin campaign they were convinced was right around the corner.

1,255 posted on 04/27/2012 9:28:56 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: gusty
He wouldn’t stomp all over a Tom Kean because he was what today is called a RINO.

You said it. Reagan also reached out to Tip O'Neill. He was a pragmatist, when all was said and done.

1,256 posted on 04/27/2012 9:29:36 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: vox_freedom
The real question is what do you stand for...

Ummm...no, sugarplum, that's not the "real" question. If there is a question about stands, it has already been answered. The core FR crowd is for Obama's reelection. Simple.

You know darn right well what conservatism is and don't bother playing games here with me about it. God given inalienable rights, as our Founding Founders understood, stated, fought for and died for, as embodied in the Declaration of Independence.

It's as I thought. You don't know how to define "real" conservatism, so you attack. Shrug.

You should learn a little history, though. The Founders were not whatever the modern interpretation of "real" conservatives is according to FR. The modern terms "conservative" and "liberal" didn't exist 236 years ago and have no application to the Founders or the times in which they lived. They were men and women of The Enlightenment. They were -- horrors -- the elites and intellectuals of their day. Their ideas were truly radical for the time. In fact, in the period and context in which they were created, both the Declaration and Constitution were the most radical political documents ever written.

The core cabal here at FR hasn't a clue about what the kind of radicalism of the Founders means even in our times, let alone how critical it is for us to conserve the Founders' ideas and legacy. What is on display at FR these days is an ugly totalitarian impulse that is the antithesis of their legacy.

Go ahead. Ping your little coven of nasties. Have me "zotted." Makes not a whit of difference to me. You people don't pay my bills, or put a roof over my head, or do anything of substance in my life. You haven't got the intellectual firepower to go toe-to-toe with me in a debate, nor the simple comprehension that it would take to figure out that what you people are is anything but politically akin to the Founders.

1,257 posted on 04/27/2012 9:29:36 PM PDT by Wolfstar
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To: Brad's Gramma

Oh, honey, you don’t want to even see examples.

It would depress you.

I’ve got examples from Perry threads alone that ...

I could to thee a tale unfold whose lightest word would harrow up thy soul, freeze they young blood.


1,258 posted on 04/27/2012 9:30:13 PM PDT by altura (If you are one of the abusers of Rick Perry, don't complain to me about Romney.)
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To: Bigun

JR has repeatedly said that FR is not a debating society, we could never get anything done if we were just debating liberalism versus conservatism all day.

Do we really need to search for a position on abortion in daily discussion, or try to stop it?

If you like to merely debate the issues, then find a debating forum that has no political mission or goal.


1,259 posted on 04/27/2012 9:30:13 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: alicewonders

PRAISE GOD FOR YOUR UNDERSTANDING.

I’m humbled and blessed by your kind understanding.

Feeling understood is a high priority to me, given my significant degree of ATTACHMENT DISORDER.

I had just commented to Joya that I thought/hoped that folks could see my heart in my posts on this thread.

Bless you for your kindness.

God’s best to you and yours.


1,260 posted on 04/27/2012 9:30:46 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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