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Let's put this to bed. We have bigger fish to fry.
April 27, 2012 | 2ndDivisionVet

Posted on 04/27/2012 4:56:50 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Everyone please send whatever you are able to, whether it is $10, $100 or $1,000+. The DUmmies, Morons, Kos Kiddies and that crew are laughing up their sleeves. Jim may have to make this site members only or allow ads. Better for us to just help with what we can. Maybe you can donate as a memorial for a lost loved one, a servicemember who never made it home or was disabled defending our country. Perhaps you'd like to give to keep free discussion alive and to show them that we're not knuckling under. I'm sure a well thought out or prayerful meditation will lead you to see the need and how you can help. If every registered FReeper and our lurkers would each just help out with a fin or a sawbuck, or better yet a Ben Franklin, we could put this to bed and get on with the conservative cause.


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To: Raider Sam

You don’t like people being thanked for supporting FR? Don’t you think that’s rather petty?


201 posted on 04/27/2012 8:54:23 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: TheOldLady

So you are trying to raise donations by telling people to F off? Of course everyone is free to leave. And then you can have a site of 30 people agreeing with each other for a few weeks before they turn on each other. That sounds fun.


202 posted on 04/27/2012 8:55:04 AM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: Ace of Spades

The owner set rules. Those that can’t follow them have to answer to him. They made a choice. Choices have consequences.


203 posted on 04/27/2012 8:55:32 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Lazamataz
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204 posted on 04/27/2012 8:55:32 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Admin Moderator refuses to let me hit it. -- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2875871/posts)
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To: fml

They may be working the “thon thread. They may have other things to do. I have no idea.


205 posted on 04/27/2012 8:56:19 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: onyx; deoetdoctrinae; The Cajun; trisham; TheOldLady; RedMDer; DJ MacWoW; STARWISE; JoeProBono; ...

OOOPS.... above


206 posted on 04/27/2012 8:56:28 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Admin Moderator refuses to let me hit it. -- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2875871/posts)
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To: All

Jesus Harvey frigging Christ.

I was going to double my monthly donation, but I don’t think I will.

By the looks of how this thread on fundraising has turned into a hair-pulling catfight where it has become more important for everyone to show just how hurt their feelings are, this site is finished. Jim should just hit the RESET button and start over after a six-month vacation.

This is not to say FR is without blame. Keeping ping lists on people who speak about their support for a republican you don’t like, then banning them for their beliefs, is gutless and idiotic if it is indeed happening.


207 posted on 04/27/2012 8:56:36 AM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? You are a socialist idiot with no rational argument.)
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To: MARKUSPRIME

2nd


208 posted on 04/27/2012 8:57:20 AM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: dirtboy

Well said.


209 posted on 04/27/2012 8:57:42 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: altura

I hear ya altura. I remember when every thread proclaimed “Rove, you magnificent bastard!!” When Ann Coulter’s essays and appearances sparked ten threads praising her thought, her wit and her looks each day.Now they are the spawn of the devil. Crypto socialists and big govt progressives. As the Joe Mantegna and Don Ameche film said, “Things change.”


210 posted on 04/27/2012 8:57:55 AM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: DJ MacWoW

It doesnt sya they have to switch. They went early, and lost half the delegates. That was the penalty. You want it to be something else.


211 posted on 04/27/2012 8:58:32 AM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: rogue yam

“I didn’t mind so much the bulk of the primary season, although the Mormon FReepers and the Mitt supporters could certainly be expected to feel differently.”

I’m neither a Mormon or a Mitt supporter (I was/am pro-Newt) but I’ve been attacked as though I were, simply because I don’t have a seething rage at Romney that makes me think another four years of a Communist in the White House would actually be preferable to Romney. I suspect the sense that that’s become the core view of this forum is one of the things discouraging donations. Giving the destructive bastard and his cohorts an opportunity to continue dismantling America so I can feel good about my conservative bonafides is never going to happen, and I don’t ever expect to see eye to eye with those who feel that it should.


212 posted on 04/27/2012 8:58:43 AM PDT by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: Raider Sam
Did everyone associate the taking over of 2 auto manufacturers with themselves?

"In the work that I had, we started a number of businesses, invested in many others and that overall created tens of thousands of jobs. So, I'm pretty proud of that record. And, by the way, in the general election, I'll be pointing out that the president took the reins of General Motors and Chrysler, closed factories, closed dealerships, laid off thousands and thousands of workers. He did it to try to save the business. We also had, on occasion, to do things that are tough to try and save a business."

So Obama had tough decisions to make? Obama will be running against himself.

213 posted on 04/27/2012 8:59:21 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Magic Fingers; 2ndDivisionVet; onyx; deoetdoctrinae; The Cajun; trisham; TheOldLady; RedMDer; ...
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214 posted on 04/27/2012 8:59:37 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Admin Moderator refuses to let me hit it. -- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2875871/posts)
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To: MizSterious

Amen


215 posted on 04/27/2012 8:59:50 AM PDT by Velveeta
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To: wtc911

Hey, Buddy.

I stopped donating when I was called a “HATER” for pointing out that Palin endorsed a life-long RAT in WV 3 in 2010. (He had put an [R] after his name a few months before) The number of outspoken, shrill FReeloaders on this site had something to do with it also.


216 posted on 04/27/2012 8:59:59 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: VeniVidiVici

So there are “pro-Obama” folks here who are evidently allowed to support the reelection of the communist.
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INDEED!!! I will NOT stay on or support a forum that in any way shape of forms aids in the re-election of that monster. I came within an inch of deleting my account, then decided to mostly lurk until after the elections, and see if FR turns in little DU or stays the wonderful site it was when I joined. The posts on each thread are getting less and less. Where the heck did everyone go?


217 posted on 04/27/2012 9:00:43 AM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: bamahead

Thirded.


218 posted on 04/27/2012 9:01:01 AM PDT by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: Drew68
When you and your ping list succeed in getting me zotted from FR

WHY would I want you zotted?! I welcomed you BACK!

219 posted on 04/27/2012 9:01:11 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I dont think hugs and kisses on an internet thread would be all that important to adults.


220 posted on 04/27/2012 9:01:30 AM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: wtc911
zots over opinion

There's a vast difference between opinion and 'promoting' that which opposes what the owner has made very clear this site is about.

221 posted on 04/27/2012 9:01:30 AM PDT by caww
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To: DJ MacWoW

Asked you a question. Yes or no.

Actions have consequences. Do do hypocrisy and dishonesty. Let’s revisit the subject when the current Freepathon falls short.


222 posted on 04/27/2012 9:01:39 AM PDT by Ace of Spades (Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: MARKUSPRIME

Bless you sir for your service, for your wisdom, and for your voice. You’re a patriot in more than one way.


223 posted on 04/27/2012 9:01:39 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: DJ MacWoW
DJ you are entitled to your principles and it's your choice to vote for whom you chose or not vote at all. Remember that old expression, "those that don't learn are doomed to repeat"?

Why do you, and several here, say that keeping Obama is better than Romney? Do you realize how stupid that sounds?

224 posted on 04/27/2012 9:02:31 AM PDT by SouthTexas (You cannot bargain with the devil, shut the government down.)
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To: mojitojoe

You’re absolutely correct.


225 posted on 04/27/2012 9:02:51 AM PDT by Velveeta
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To: norwaypinesavage
to re-elect a Socialist President.

...and you would think Romney doesn't have those tendencies as well? Come on...look closer...behind the mask.

226 posted on 04/27/2012 9:05:30 AM PDT by caww
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To: mojitojoe
Joe I cannot toss aside my principles. Jim has said that he will not allow FR to compromise either.

I'd be glad to explain in FReepmail if you'd like.

You choose differently. That's okay and it's your right. No one is saying that it isn't. The only thing that was asked was that no support for Romney be posted on FR. That seems to be very hard for some to accept.

227 posted on 04/27/2012 9:06:30 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I donated and was happy to do so.


228 posted on 04/27/2012 9:10:02 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (BO Threat Stream: http://blogsofwar.com/threatstream/index_barack_obama.html)
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To: gusty

2nd


229 posted on 04/27/2012 9:10:09 AM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: mojitojoe
Where the heck did everyone go?

Recovering from Romneys and the GOPS self proclaimed win. This primary rang people dry.... The focus was intense for many..... You simply have to withdraw and regroup your thoughts to come back into the fray and march forward with what we can do. It just takes a second wind.

230 posted on 04/27/2012 9:10:23 AM PDT by caww
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To: mel

Muslim Brotherhood loving commie phony president.
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He is that and so much more. I’m sorry, but he has to go. He HAS to. If he gets more Court picks, it will destroy this great nation for at least a generation.


231 posted on 04/27/2012 9:12:04 AM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: Raider Sam
There are two separate issues.

Gingrich to challenge Florida’s “winner take all” rule, demand proportional award of delegates

232 posted on 04/27/2012 9:12:42 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Ace of Spades

Go zot yourself. I can’t do it, nor do I want to. If you’re so miserable here and cannot bear the principles of the site owner, just leave. No one is stopping you.

This is a biased site. Advocating for someone with an anti-Conservative record like Gov. Romney’s is not allowed here. But to answer your question, yes. Free discussion is allowed here. If you want to point out the advantages of Conservatism and the errors and destruction of liberal progressivism, have at it, and welcome. But please do not pretend for a moment that Romney is a conservative, for he is not. He IS Obama lite as Jim has pointed out countless times with references to his voting and governing records, and YouTube videos of the socialism spewing out of his own mouth, which he later denies having said, but there it is for all the world to see. Why don’t you see it?

The candidacy of Gov. Romney is what Conservatives get for caving to the leftist GOPE all these years with their leftist candidates. Squishy centrists always lose to the real leftists, and strong Conservatives always win.

So, who do they field? Dole? GH Bush? McCain? And now Romney? Designated losers, all. McCain even admitted it in so many words, “You have nothing to fear from an Obama presidency.” And he allowed his advisers to destroy Gov. Palin, who was in the process of saving his campaign when all the made-up “dirt” came out about her. Republicans under the GOPE lose the presidency, and all goes back to business as usual in Washington, where the Republican and Democrat elites have their little soirees and hobnob and rub elbows with their leftist cohorts in the big Washington Power Cabal.

It’s disgusting, and we must stop it before it destroys us. See? That is why we are so passionate about this issue.


233 posted on 04/27/2012 9:13:22 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: norwaypinesavage
A LOT of people aren’t welcomed here any more. That hurts donations significantly.

I hate to say this but this is true. There were many people here since 1998 who fought side by side who've been thrown off or simply shredded to pieces by certain members who allowed to run without a leash even on who attacked me and is a Sarah Palin hater.

When I stated there were people promoting voting for Obama, and even one of the most known FReepers on this site who is close with the leadership told me privately they knew this was true and nothing would be done about it.

I decided to call these people out only to be viciously slandered. I even provided proof. They tried to completely distort the statement.

I'm going to leave it at that. Instead of banning folks who donated for the last ten years, maybe they should go after the thugs who use threats of zotting to scare FReepers off the site...

234 posted on 04/27/2012 9:13:44 AM PDT by Dengar01 (Go Bulls!!! Go White Sox!!!)
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To: mojitojoe; dagogo redux; VeniVidiVici

“So there are “pro-Obama” folks here who are evidently allowed to support the reelection of the communist.”
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I came within an inch of deleting my account, then decided to mostly lurk until after the elections, and see if FR turns in little DU or stays the wonderful site it was when I joined.”

Even more than the “zots”, I think the above group accounts for the greatest percentage of those who might have otherwise donated but who now don’t.


235 posted on 04/27/2012 9:13:56 AM PDT by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What is so wrong with FR taking a principled stand against the republican party moving even more to the left? I haven’t decided yet how I’ll vote, but it seems pretty short sighted to me to think only about the next four years and not the ramifications of this party putting up someone so contrary to core conservative values. He’s not the devil incarnate, but he’s not conservative.

How about building a conservative gameplan that looks more than 6 months ahead. We should be looking 6 years ahead, building the party we need - rather than accepting the one the establishment wants. Jmho.


236 posted on 04/27/2012 9:14:35 AM PDT by buckleyfan (WFB, save us!)
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To: DJ MacWoW

“The only thing that was asked was that no support for Romney be posted on FR. That seems to be very hard for some to accept.”

And, it seems, no support for Ron Paul or Rick Perry, and nothing but fawning admiration for St. Sarah. Yeah, that is a bit hard to accept.


237 posted on 04/27/2012 9:14:41 AM PDT by Ace of Spades (Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Raider Sam
You have your knickers in a knot. You seem to simply hate everything about FR.

We are done.

238 posted on 04/27/2012 9:14:56 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: TheOldLady

“Give voluntarily or not at all.”
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Not being snide, nor meaning to be Zotted (likely will be, I know), but I cannot find the site’s mechanism to have my monthly contributions stopped. Can someone walk me through the process? TIA.


239 posted on 04/27/2012 9:15:06 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Ace of Spades

You didn’t like my answer? Can’t please everyone.


240 posted on 04/27/2012 9:15:52 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: w1andsodidwe

Psssttt...most of FR does feel this way.


241 posted on 04/27/2012 9:16:30 AM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

No where in that story does it say if a WTA holds early, they are forced to change to proportional. It clearly says they were punished half the delegates. They had a choice, and chose to lose delegates.


242 posted on 04/27/2012 9:16:30 AM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: wtc911

you are 100% correct.
I love this site and agree with the majority 95% of the time, but I keep it to myself when i don’t agree.
Some of the folks here can be vicious!!


243 posted on 04/27/2012 9:17:05 AM PDT by ronniesgal ( I miss George Bush. Hell, I miss Bill Clinton!!)
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To: DJ MacWoW

What you don’t seem to get, is that most people aren’t so delusional that they think that Romney is going to be Reagan, the just know he isn’t Karl Marx. He doesn’t hate white people and he won’t shut down conservative sites.

Four more years of Obama will not usher in a Conservative for President. It will just get us another Marx.

With Obama we know what we are going to get. How can you ignore his little aside to the Russian President that he just needs to wait until he is re-elected to do what he wants?

Do you really think people would want to elect a conservative who sat back and let that happen?


244 posted on 04/27/2012 9:17:13 AM PDT by dforest
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To: buckleyfan; 2ndDivisionVet

That was directed to the “anybody but BO!” crowd, btw.


245 posted on 04/27/2012 9:17:34 AM PDT by buckleyfan (WFB, save us!)
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To: mojitojoe

246 posted on 04/27/2012 9:18:16 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas gerit ;-{)
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To: TheOldLady

So, you answer boils down to, “Free discussion of anything we agree with is accepted and encouraged.”

And, if you’ll notice, I didn’t say the first thing about endorsing Romney. What I asked is whether this is a site where conservatives of varying stripes are free here to discuss their differences respectfully. You simply cannot give me a straight yes or no answer.


247 posted on 04/27/2012 9:18:23 AM PDT by Ace of Spades (Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: SouthTexas
Remember that old expression, "those that don't learn are doomed to repeat"?

That works both ways. Why do you think liberal Romney can beat Obama when McCain couldn't?

We did hold our nose and vote for McCain. Romney will be a replay. I refuse to do it again. I will not vote for someone that is the exact opposite of what I believe.

Why do you, and several here, say that keeping Obama is better than Romney?

I've never said such. I said they are the same.

248 posted on 04/27/2012 9:19:24 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“You don’t believe that free discussion takes place here?”

I get my news here and donate frequently, but I have no illusions that free discussion takes place here. It does not.

The shrinking base of readers and posters will probably require a change in the business model, including commercial revenue and subscriptions.


249 posted on 04/27/2012 9:19:30 AM PDT by Poser (Cogito ergo Spam - I think, therefore I ham)
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To: MizSterious
If Romney gets elected, no matter how leftward he leans, he will be held back by congress, the media,

Really?...like they held back Obamacare from passing? Like they held back increasing the debt ceiling? and the list goes on.

Romney is a socialist and he will simply continue the same agenda just with a different face on it, and it likely will be worse because the Gop will lay back all the more with seemingly "their man" at the helm.

250 posted on 04/27/2012 9:19:59 AM PDT by caww
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