Skip to comments.Let's put this to bed. We have bigger fish to fry.
Posted on 04/27/2012 4:56:50 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Everyone please send whatever you are able to, whether it is $10, $100 or $1,000+. The DUmmies, Morons, Kos Kiddies and that crew are laughing up their sleeves. Jim may have to make this site members only or allow ads. Better for us to just help with what we can. Maybe you can donate as a memorial for a lost loved one, a servicemember who never made it home or was disabled defending our country. Perhaps you'd like to give to keep free discussion alive and to show them that we're not knuckling under. I'm sure a well thought out or prayerful meditation will lead you to see the need and how you can help. If every registered FReeper and our lurkers would each just help out with a fin or a sawbuck, or better yet a Ben Franklin, we could put this to bed and get on with the conservative cause.
You say, “Wrong” and then you hedge on everything I suggested in terms of those who have posted things contrary to true Conservatism. Romney-ites are not conservative. Paul-bots are Libertarian, not conservative. Just because you haven’t seen the posts doesn’t mean that those challenges haven’t been all over Free Republic for months on end. Most have been zotted, but for you to say they never existed is just plain fallacy. If you’ve been around here you would have seen them. If a tree falls in a forest and no one is there, did it fall? Errrrr. yes!
THANKS for a Classy, gracious response.
Personally, I’d be happy for you and your extended family to get filthy rich off of FR for all the good it has done so many of us and the Republic.
You may know I’ve said that from my first months on FR, if you remember.
HOWEVER, I think the degree of balanced humble candor and transparency as so well demonstrated in your above response, would help a lot to be increased significantly.
Let Your FReep Flag Fly
I don’t think your post will be deleted. At least I hope not. This is the best example I have seen of the intelligence of Romney’s duplicitous supporters. You’ve been here since 2005 and now because Jim Robinson won’t allow you to pimp your socialist on a conservative website, you get the vapors. Talk about hypocritical.
I pray that you never have to experience what it is like to have someone come into your home and do exactly what you have done here. It is truly fatuous behavior, but that is to be expected from Romney’s acolytes.
I hope you don’t get the zot, but after making such a fool of yourself, I don’t expect to see you post here again. Perhaps you should take your special love of socialism and, the everyone on this site who agrees with Jim must be brainwashed or paid, opinion with you when you go.
I receive no monetary benefit from Jim, I contribute. But like everyone here, even you, I receive the benefit of being able to express my conservative beliefs. You and the other truly brainwashed republicans (rombots) can continue to hold on to Soro’s favorite, your socialist son of an Alinsky lover — Mitt Romney. But as long as this is a conservative website, I hope we never have to become as hypocritical as those who pretend that the most liberal republican presidential candidate ever is a conservative.
Do it French style.
Double fried french fries, dipped in a rich, flavorful, handmade mayonnaise.
How many of you know Jim Robinson is also on Twitter under the name of @DEFEAT ROMNEY ??
How do you know that account is his? Where is your proof?
ABSOLUTELY INDEED. DITTO ON ALL POINTS.
The photo, forget it. I didn’t realize you had no clue it was a deceased relative.
Let me try to explain it to you. You refer to Romney as "Democrat Lite", that would make Obama "Democrat". Right?
Okay. I'm a diabetic. If I would drink "Coca-cola" - it would be very harmful to me. I hate the taste of "Diet Coke", but I drink it because it lets me live to fight another day. Aside from the fact that I shouldn't drink soda pop anyway, and that water is more healthy - I don't like Romney either - I was a die-hard Perrywinkle. I was called names, mocked and had to endure the constant "posse ping list" insults whenever I just wanted to read an article posted about Gov. Perry. Romney was the last person I wanted to see on the ticket.
But now I have a choice of Obama or Romney. If I don't vote for Romney, that's one less vote Obama has to overcome to victory. If you add in the inevitable cheating that will occur - Romney will have to get every single vote possible just to have a chance to defeat the biggest threat to my liberty and freedom that I have ever known.
If Romney wins - we live to fight another day. If Obama wins - it's checkmate. You want to say that I am "flip"? How flippant is it to throw a little tantrum and waste that precious vote on someone that cannot defeat this monster? America will not survive four more years of that.
You owe the portapotty company the entire charge to remove you ( a worthless POS) from that facility.
PRAYERS, CERTAINLY. DONE.
Thanks much for yours. Being greatly flawed, prayers are wonderful.
God’s best peace, provision, wisdom, leading, protection be yours and those you love.
And to all those of FR of good heart for God and country.
Quix...my Lord!!!! Don't spend a penny here. Use that $361 a month for things you need or, if you must, give to your church or other local charity.
Don't you know what a fraud FR has become? $94,000 a calendar quarter for a website?! That's $376,000 a year. I have worked in the information systems field since 1988, so know whereof I speak.
Where is the public accounting? Where are these supposed new servers we keep hearing about? Do you know that Dell PowerEdge enterprise-class servers (to use one example) are cheap? You can buy rack-type servers for as low as $599, tower-type servers for $399, and blade servers for $1034. Dell's high-end servers start at $4360. In other words, about $10,000 to $15,000 will buy two top-of-the-line servers. So where are they?
Here's a link to Dell's server web page. People can research this information for themselves.
FR's programming is 1996-vintage. It does not need massive enterprise-class servers to run. In addition, web hosting costs have come way, way down since 1996.
The low-end $399 Dell server has up to absolutely massive 12TB(squared) of storage. That's terabytes. One terabyte = 1000 gigabytes, or 1 trillion bytes. Even if they've saved every thread ever started on FR since 1996, and every private message, no way would such simple HTML data consume the storage of two servers, each with 12TB*squared) storage.
Please, Quix, your $361 is much more important in your real life than it is on this fantasy called Free Republic.
I agree with you AW:
Romney will have to get every single vote possible just to have a chance to defeat the biggest threat to my liberty and freedom that I have ever known.
If Romney wins - we live to fight another day. If Obama wins - it’s checkmate. You want to say that I am “flip”? How flippant is it to throw a little tantrum and waste that precious vote on someone that cannot defeat this monster? America will not survive four more years of that.
1,162 posted on Friday, April 27, 2012 21:11:20 by alicewonders
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Remember Ross Perot?
I have some problems with some libertarian values, for sure.
And I would have problems if any FREEPER thought that Romney was other than a Marxist globalist.
I do not have problems understanding why some FREEPERS believe, logically, that a vote for anyone but Romney would be a vote FOR OTHUGA.
Actually, given the whining bitch response(s) that was totally out of context in either case, I wish I had.
I wasn’t going to jump back in (now officially in moocher mode) but I believe you have hit the nail on the head. This site has become cult-like, and the only words you left out to complete that picture are “insufferably self-righteous.”
I have especially been struck by the recent Kim-Jong-Il-like events, where the Beloved Leader would begin a thread with a dramatic manifesto, outlining the underlying creed which all true believers were to imbibe and adhere to. This was not particularly chilling by itself, but what was chilling were the hundreds of posts of lockstep praise and allegiance that then came forth from the faithful. The implication that one had to get behind this or be considered apostate was palpable, and it struck me as very much a cult-like phenomenon: you must drink the Kool-aid or else. Many other points brought up here today serve to reinforce this as well.
On this particular issue I wanted to make a few long winded points that might (?) provide context. I see this mentioned a lot, but I don't really understand what people expected this sites administrators to do about it. Quite a lot of this thread is about people wanting to be more free to express their opinion, so should the moderators have massively intervened to silence or shut down the wave of attacks on Perry? I never got the impression that this sites owner, Jim Robinson, had any particular hostility to Perry. Perhaps he may have disagreed with some of Perry's positions, but I seem to remember him saying that Perry was a reasonable conservative option. I don't recall any of this sites moderators/administrators/assistants targeting pro-Perry people for abuse or zots. Sure, maybe many preferred other candidates, but I never got the impression that Free Republic in any way sanctioned any attacks on Perry supporters.
It's not like other candidates were spared, and many of us (including myself at times) were probably more over the top than necessary when arguing for their own candidate and against others. I thought Cain, for example, was a total fake and was bluffing his way through - and I am pretty glad we are allowed to express that sort of blunt opinion that no doubt rubbed many people the wrong way. I mean, was I "attacking" Cain for arguing he was not a candidate we should take seriously? I think history has now proven I was right, but saying such things certainly infuriated a lot of people at the time.
When Perry entered the race he immediately led the polls and looked very likely to be THE non-Romney. He has a great resume and had an ability to raise enough money to compete with Mitt. On paper he appeared to be the strongest candidate to square off against Romney unless......someone else entered the race. And who were many, many, many conservatives on this forum (and others) waiting for to enter the race? Sarah Palin. Like it or not, for a very large number of people, Perry became an instant, albeit temporary, enemy (as the man who appeared to be the single most legitimate conservative threat) to a Sarah Palin candidacy that so many people expected. Many of these folks immediately did what people who support a candidate do, they tear down the competition to clear the way. This, in my opinion, is what really sparked all the attacks on Perry - and I don't see how political forum moderators/admins could have done anything about it. They'd have had to take draconian actions to stop it - and if they'd done that it would have appeared they were actually siding with Perry instead of just trying to moderate debate.
I supported Perry. I moved away from him when I lost faith in his ability to communicate effectively enough during this particular election cycle (I will happily consider him again in 2016/2020). I was attacked for supporting Perry too - but I just don't see how it is fair to blame Free Republic's owner or the forum moderators for it. If you read some of the other conservative forums similar stuff happened (not counting the ones that outright supported Perry). We had a situation this election cycle where THE big name conservative/Tea Party candidate, Sarah Palin, that so many people absolutely believed was going to run (and were prepared to support) simply waited and waited and waited and ultimately declined to get in the race. For months lots of people here and activists all over the place were readying themselves for her candidacy, not even considering backing anyone else, and effectively working to clear the field for her. By the time she made it official that she wasn't running (and many people STILL don't believe it and think she can STILL somehow be the nominee), the attacks on Perry had already done their damage and the primary was more of a mess than it should have been.
Those are just my observations. On another note. I know much of the site was fairly pro Palin, but I was fairly blunt all summer that I believed she had no real intention to run. That was quite a contrarian view that infuriated a lot of people, yet I was able to speak my peace no matter who it outraged, attack right back at anyone who came after me, and otherwise make all my points without being censored, threatened or banned. My experience with moderators/admins has been quite good (even though perhaps many of them disagree with me on many policies).
You're really not going to let him give you his SS money are you?
I didn't say they did. I asked how you would receive an ex democrat and union leader today.
Knowing your posting history, you would have turned your back on him....not conservative enough....and missed a truly great President. Birchers couldn't stand Reagan, and there's not much difference between your brand of conservatism and theirs.
Romney's no Reagan...no one is. But he's the only chance we've got to get rid of a President far worse than Carter.
That is the point here, and what is tearing FR apart.
You are likely right about my meager income.
And I certainly don’t doubt you about the servers. Many IT professionals have said similar things over the years.
JR likes things the way he’s had it all these years.
I can sort of understand him being a stick-in-the-mud curmudgeon about such things. I’d likely be, too.
I do think a LOT more candor and public info about where the money goes would be more ethical and honorable as well as more effective for FR. He seems to have complied to some degree tonight.
Thankfully, I live with my Dad and another FREEPER housemate so I don’t lack for shelter or food. Still, it is a meager income and I would be better to be wiser about it than I often am.
One of the reasons I’m in that state, however, is a life of giving what I had away to folks who needed it more and to help invite folks to Jesus The Christ. I don’t regret that. It does limit me now, more than a little however. LOL.
Thanks for your kind words.
I deeply appreciate your thoughtfulness and candor.
He who has the cash...
And it’s patently obvious that if you run a ‘freepathon’, then the site needs cash.
Therefore, the donors are the true owners.
Not understanding that will eventually just leave the site with insufficient funds to operate, leading to a shutdown.
Thanks for your kind reality check and kind words.
I wish greatly that your analysis were a lot more flawed than it seems to be. I think you are quite accurate.
And that has long saddened me for all concerned.
Cult members are usually an unhappy lot.
And the hopefully few mod harpies so given to gleefully wielding so many Islamic like swords around here certainly seem to be among the most unhappy.
You had better page him at the Olive Garden, he went out to dinner.
but not like a mormon
Set the record straight...
I am not a Romney ite. But we have to defeat Obama in Nov. There is no turning back now...
Contributions are down for two reasons
A lot of us don’t have any extra money. 4 dollar gas. 5 dollar gas in some parts of the country.
A lot of people don’t want to root for Obama to win
You said you would pray and seek guidance from the Lord before making a donation to FR. Well, may I humbly suggest that the odds of my seeing your post, let alone responding to it, were very long. I don't read these threads usually, and have not been posting on FR much anymore. So maybe my seeing your post and being moved to respond the way I did is the Lord's way of answering your prayer? I don't mean to be presumptuous, but I could not stand by in good conscience and say nothing while you perhaps spent even a small fraction of such a tiny sum on FR when I know the truth.
What is "true" conservatism? Can you provide a definition? Not a list of policy positions, but a definition.
I have a number of times with a clear conscience
because for all it’s flaws . . .
I believe FR HAS and sometimes still does
THE BODY OF CHRIST A LOT OF GOOD.
I can still feel that way honestly in my heart, mind and spirit, then I don’t mind giving a portion of my meager tithes to FR. I wouldn’t even mind fasting a Bigmac to do so.
The people hereon—minus a few mods—are wonderful conservatives. The relationships alone are a great encouragement and resource.
And the dialogue with many has been top flight. I don’t know if that can persist or return, or not. I’ve had my wings clipped to my shoulder joints for no good reason. That hurts and is sad. But it doesn’t change the fact that FR is still the best conservative site in terms of numbers, software, and information on the net. That deserves something.
Anyway—as I said, I’m still praying about it. Missionary work is still a high priority to me, too.
But then, in some respects, FR is a mission field, too. LOL.
Don’t tell him that Reagan named Richard Schweiker, a true Rockefeller Republican, as his VP in 1976 for ticket balance. Right before the convention no less. He then made him HHS Secretary in 1981. If he did that today, some here would want him purged. If Reagan were alive and healthy today, he would give one hell of a good speech for Mitt Romney in Tampa.
I hope the owner keeps that in mind the next FR is sued. Be sure to send him your address.
The attacks were personal, not philosphical or based on fact, and the moderators allowed it against almost anybody who supported Perry. Perry supporters repeatedly hit the abuse button but got no help from the mods. I won't pay good money to be called an idiot, stupid, ignorant, a redneck Texan, pond scum, told to go get a brain, etc, and that isn't the worst of the name calling that went on. It was really over the top and that is why so many of us left and took our checkbooks with us. We weren't an overly sensitive group of thin skinned people, we only wanted to be treated with some basic respect.
Nope! Not at all. When I signed up this was a place were REAL honest debate took place and ideas were honed and refined. Sadly, that is no longer the case and hasn't been for quite some time now.
You used it. All donations cover the current operating expenses.
Windy is here. Yapped at him the other day.
We even had some folks very early on who were trying to say Sarah Palin wasnt a real consetvative.... WTF ?
You mean Captain Reagan who by the second half of the 1940s was already starting to be seen as a communist fighting conservative, testifying to Congress and naming names, working with the FBI, having to carry a gun for self defense from the left, Reagan?
The Reagan after 1948 was campaigning for Republicans like Eisenhower, who he campaigned for in 1952 and again in 1956, and then campaigned for Nixon against JFK in 1960, already having earned a reputation as an active speaker for conservatism for years?
The Reagan who formally registered Republican in 1962 and spoke at the Goldwater convention in 1964? The one that Mitt and his father stormed out of in formal protest against conservatism?
Reagan was famous for his conservatism before the Vietnam War, and the Great Society, Roe V Wade, the abortion wars, Jimmy Carter, decades of Cold War defeats, and the radical 1960s, before the Reagan Revolution and the Contract with America, and Clinton, and the Gore election of 2000, Mitt Romney would not even register Republican during the Reagan Presidency or vote for him. Romney, at almost age 60, had a stroke (or something) and suddenly, unexplainedly, became a totally different person around 2006, merely to run for national office.
Reagan and Romney have nothing in common.
I like how you pretend to not know much about Romney and then when you get an in depth response you pretend to know my posting history, and then claim that I would not have supported Reagan.
I went back into the military in my 30s, solely because of Reagan and of course voted for him both times, so you can take your little punk stuff off the table. By the way, I have always been an anti-Bircher, since I was a teen.
It is the liberals among us that make ridiculous claims like you made about me and my favorite president and the Birchers, that prefer Romney’s liberalism, and insult Reagan, that causes problems here at FR.
Oh they need to be careful, no St. Sarah criticism allowed here at all!
Reagan signed the 1967 Abortion law in California...
and then he saw the destruction it created and thought better of it thank God.
The irony is thick with this picture.
As for Free Republic, you also know without having to ask what we stand for. Thus,
Wed Dec 15 2010 19:09:46 GMT-0800 (PST) by Jim Robinson.
One more time:
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We aggressively defend our God-given and first amendment guaranteed rights to free speech, free press, free religion, and FREEDOM of ASSOCIATION, as well as our constitutional right to control the use and content of our own personal private property. Despite the wailing of the liberal trolls and other doom & gloom naysayers, we feel no compelling need to allow them a platform to promote their repugnant and obnoxious propaganda from our forum. Free Republic is NOT a liberal debating society. We are conservative activists dedicated to defending our GOD-GIVEN rights, defending our constitution, defending our republic and defending our traditional American way of Life.
Our God-given Life, Liberty and freedoms are NOT negotiable!!
For God, Family, Country, Life and Liberty!!
If you cannot live with the above, fine, but keep your mouth shut about it while on FR. Don't fight against us on ANY of our deeply held beliefs!!
DON'T TREAD ON ME!!
Anti Life & Liberty trolls will be ZOT on sight!!
The real question is what do you stand for, and what you are now willing to support, whilst our country is faced with the likely re-election of a Marxist Obama and the alternative being a Liar, pretender Mitt Romney.
So where do you stand?
I hadz the chucklz.