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To: volunbeer

“This is why so many husbands and fathers fail.”

Excuse me... Since when have husbands and fathers been demanding abortions???


31 posted on 04/25/2012 10:48:23 PM PDT by babygene (Figures don't lie, but liars can figure...)
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To: babygene; volunbeer

>>“This is why so many husbands and fathers fail.”
>
>Excuse me... Since when have husbands and fathers been demanding abortions???

Is it enough to not demand abortions?
Does not evil flourish when good men do nothing?
And how could a good man conscience this infanticide?

And all the time—such is the tragi-comedy of our [educational*] situation—we continue to clamour for those very qualities we are rendering impossible. You can hardly open a periodical without coming across the statement that our civilization needs more ‘drive’, or dynamism, or self-sacrifice, or ‘creativity’. In a sort of ghastly simplicity we remove the organ and demand the function. We make men without chests [hearts] and expect of them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honour and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. We castrate and bid the geldings be fruitful.
— C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man

* Educational because we are TAUGHT by society that these things are of little/negligible/no value.


34 posted on 04/25/2012 11:00:36 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: babygene

Life is not confined to the four corners of an article, essay, or editorial. Don’t you think men impact the decisions of women for the same selfish reasons this lady chose to abort her baby?

Abortion is the result of placing yourself above an innocent life. They value themselves more than the child they conceived. They engaged in behavior that they knew could result in a pregnancy and she, he, or they choose to destroy the consequence out of convenience.

If you don’t think men have a responsibility in the number of abortions you did not understand what I wrote. There are two people responsible for a pregnancy (outside of a lab) and the danger of feminism and “pro-choice” is that men abdicate their responsibility to the woman and the child they fathered for a temporary high.

I know a man who demanded his young girlfriend get an abortion many years ago. It is his biggest regret. I have another friend who found out after the fact and struggles with the result of a decision he was not even aware of. However, he would be the first to tell you that he created the situation.

Examining the root cause of this woman’s decision goes far beyond the “sacred right” foisted on us by the left that makes it a choice based on their foundation that “nothing is bigger than me”. That foundation is found throughout the agenda of the left.


39 posted on 04/25/2012 11:18:37 PM PDT by volunbeer (Don't worry America, our kids can pay for it!)
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To: babygene

“Excuse me... Since when have husbands and fathers been demanding abortions???”

Very frequently, in my work at a crisis pregnancy center.

I could just about predict if a baby would be carried to term - that is, if the mom had a baby daddy who wanted her to keep it.

Now, there were a few men trying to save kids that the moms wanted to abort. There were some dads who did not know they were a dad - mom kept it from them. And there were a few moms who rather heroically carried on even though boyfriends but the pressure on them. Sometimes, very harsh pressure.

But they were the exceptions.


48 posted on 04/26/2012 12:04:59 AM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: babygene

-—Excuse me... Since when have husbands and fathers been demanding abortions???——

I used to attend prayer vigils at PP on Saturday mornings. Women were accompanied by either their mothers or boyfriends. About 50-50.

Yes, mothers. Try to imagine that.


91 posted on 04/26/2012 6:29:05 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: babygene
Since when have husbands and fathers been demanding abortions

Well, boyfriends -- maybe impregnators would be a better term -- then.

IIRC, polls show that more men support unrestricted abortion than women.

96 posted on 04/26/2012 7:24:36 AM PDT by Tribune7 (GAS WAS $1.85 per gallon on the day Obama was Inaugurated! - - freeper Gaffer)
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To: babygene
Since when have husbands and fathers been demanding abortions

Well, boyfriends -- maybe impregnators would be a better term -- then.

IIRC, polls show that more men support unrestricted abortion than women.

97 posted on 04/26/2012 7:24:46 AM PDT by Tribune7 (GAS WAS $1.85 per gallon on the day Obama was Inaugurated! - - freeper Gaffer)
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To: babygene
Since when have husbands and fathers been demanding abortions

Well, boyfriends -- maybe impregnators would be a better term -- then.

IIRC, polls show that more men support unrestricted abortion than women.

98 posted on 04/26/2012 7:25:04 AM PDT by Tribune7 (GAS WAS $1.85 per gallon on the day Obama was Inaugurated! - - freeper Gaffer)
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To: babygene; volunbeer; grundle
“This is why so many husbands and fathers fail.”

Excuse me... Since when have husbands and fathers been demanding abortions???

Husbands, boyfriends, fathers are USUALLY the ones demanding "their" women have abortions in the first place. It is rarely entirely the woman's idea. There was/is a lot of pressure placed on women who are pregnant "inconveniently". Many women would not have made the choice to abort had the father of the child shared the responsibility for the baby they created. So, yes, husbands, fathers, men DO fail - women don't get pregnant by themselves! Condemning the abortive mother while letting the man responsible for the pregnancy off, is hypocrisy. For abortion to become UNTHINKABLE in our lifetime, the truth about it MUST be faced - all aspects.

146 posted on 04/26/2012 9:35:37 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: babygene
Excuse me... Since when have husbands and fathers been demanding abortions???

Plenty of blame to go around on abortions. A lot of them are pushed by boyfriends, husbands, and parents, especially when the mom is scared.

149 posted on 04/27/2012 5:34:25 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (The Republican Party is bigger than the presidency.)
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