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I'm childless at 42 and haunted by the baby I aborted at 18
dailymail.co.uk ^ | April 25, 2012 | KATE SPICER

Posted on 04/25/2012 9:37:08 PM PDT by grundle

Once, at a smart wedding in Northamptonshire when I was about 30, someone handed me a newborn baby and my skin broke out in hot hives.

In Brazil, I met a ten-year-old street kid. I fed him, let him sleep and shower in my hotel room, bought him clothes, and felt an overwhelming desire to protect and nurture him.

I had never before felt such a forceful maternal instinct. These events were profoundly physical reactions, both shocking to me.

Just around the time of my trip to Brazil, the ghost of my never-born came back to haunt me. I began imagining what he might have been like — a tall and sandy-haired boy, who would have been 17 at  the time. I was 35, the age when the  experts say your eggs and fertility start declining.

It’s embarrassing to reveal these visions of my never-born son, and important to understand their significance. This imagined son was not some moral spectre come to punish me; it was my subconscious reminding me to wake up and face reality.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: abortion; cultureofdeath; feminism; moloch; moralabsolutes; narcissism; postabortivewomen; prolife; wreckageofleftism
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To: Amberdawn

Agreed. It does help to have a few kids maybe one will care enough to see they don’t abuse you in the nursing home.


101 posted on 04/26/2012 7:49:57 AM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: Persevero

“There are still a father and a mother, even in a lab situation.

It’s just the father has decided to be naught but a sperm donor. Some father.”

You don’t need a lab for this. There are plenty of sperm donors who made their “donation” the old-fashioned way.


102 posted on 04/26/2012 7:52:45 AM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (We apologise for the fault in this tagline. Those responsible have been sacked.)
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To: grundle

What a horrible story. I’d like to feel some sympathy for this woman, but her narcissism and lack of remorse are too shocking.


103 posted on 04/26/2012 7:52:53 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

Well, she probably enjoyed her consequence free fornication for 24 or more years though...

“you have received your reward”


104 posted on 04/26/2012 7:54:45 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: tired&retired
I just hit it once, really :-)

I saw a lot of double posts today. I think they are having a glitch. I'm taking care to hit the button once.

105 posted on 04/26/2012 8:00:14 AM PDT by Tribune7 (GAS WAS $1.85 per gallon on the day Obama was Inaugurated! - - freeper Gaffer)
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To: grundle
The best way to answer the question: ‘Should I have been a teen mother,’ is by asking myself how I would advise a young girl in a similar situation. If my beautiful, bright 17-year-old god-daughter, who longs to work for an economic think-tank, came to me, as I went to Helen all those years ago, and asked what she should do, I would advise her to have an abortion.

Sadly, she doesn't seem to have learned from this. On the other hand, perhaps she is still simply trying to rationalize it? Certainly, she has written a lot of hollow words trying to do so.

It is obvious this is still all about herself and she is still seeking redemption within the boundaries of her secular, empty world. She won't find it, of course.

What she needs is Jesus and His forgiveness and love - not more navel-gazing and Liberally approved dead-ends. Only He can set her free from her prison of anguish and guilt.

106 posted on 04/26/2012 8:13:50 AM PDT by Gritty (All the day long, three words dominate Feminist thinking: I, me, mine. – Mike Adams)
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To: The_Media_never_lie; Secret Agent Man; tired&retired; Politicalmom; RobbyS
Unless you know that she is reading this thread it's not even possible, much less rational, that anyone is "rubbing salt in her wounds." The more pertinent point is that her words reveal that she isn't all that wounded. Her main gripe is that she still isn't getting her way even though she still can't decide just what it is she wants.

Personally I'm more disgusted that anyone would publish this selfish diatribe than with her. I have compassion for her for the fact that she can't get out of her current deluded state without first facing the reality of her actions which is going to be a really cold hard truth for her.

The mere fact that it will be so hard may be what's preventing her from taking that step but there is no way around it. She can't get to a place where she feels right with the world without first facing the ugliness of her actions. Clarity of mind isn't selective. When you achieve it you see everything.

But if she and some publisher thinks it's worth publishing for the world to see then they've asked for the feedback. Perhaps you think she needs some more pretty lies so she can keep avoiding the truth and keep on wandering around wondering why she's never happy. I don't call that compassion.

107 posted on 04/26/2012 9:12:17 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye

Agreed, except that I don’t really feel compassion for her. She doesn’t regret what she did, and would advise others to do the same thing.


108 posted on 04/26/2012 9:18:33 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham
That is why I feel compassion for her. I know what it's going to take to get out of her current mindset.
109 posted on 04/26/2012 9:23:24 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye

I understand.


110 posted on 04/26/2012 9:27:25 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: grundle

I knew this was UK Daily Mail just by the headline. This newspaper prints lot of the non-PC stuff the US press ignores. They are the largest on-line newspaper these days...so I have read. They expose the Muslim invasion of UK and their bad behavior (rape etc) with native white women

You have millions of Americans going to the Daily Mail website rather than the POS NY Times


111 posted on 04/26/2012 9:31:08 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: RobbyS

She killed a baby.

She doesn’t deserve any slack.


112 posted on 04/26/2012 9:41:24 AM PDT by DNA.2012
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To: volunbeer
This is why so many husbands and fathers fail.

What do you mean "fail" and why do you reference husbands and fathers without referencing wives and mothers?

113 posted on 04/26/2012 9:46:58 AM PDT by DNA.2012
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To: trisham

It’s just one way to look at it. Ultimately anyone who is swayed to abort their own child by it is still responsible for their own decision as she is for hers. That’s why I’m more bothered by it being published than the fact that she is in a place where she is stuck because the way forward means pain. Everyone is stuck behind something at one time or another. The article is a public affirmation of her not finding her way yet. The publisher thought that was a good thing.


114 posted on 04/26/2012 9:48:01 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

OH MY GOSH!! She did NOT “murder” a “batch of cells”. She murdered a precious PERSON, a human being whom she was responsible for, and who had an absolute right to live.


115 posted on 04/26/2012 9:48:23 AM PDT by Politicalmom (THIS IS NOT A GOP CHEERLEADING SITE!!!)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

I really can’t buy this that they were victims here. They were active participants. They wanted to believe the lies. How else can anyone actually buy the lie that “it’s not a person” and “it’s just a mass of cells” when FOREVER other groups and churches that existed well before Roe V Wade were also getting their message out that 1) what else could it be but human life and 2) if you see these pictures you’ll see it’s not just a mass of cells.

Same pro-life group work went on in the UK as well.

Eve bought the distorted lie of Satan and that did not absolve her that first bite when she blamed her choice on the snake “the serpent beguiled me and I ate”. She wanted to believe that lie. Didn’t save Adam either “the woman you gave me ...”

The liars are guilty, and those that want to and believe the lie are guilty. I just do not believe all these women are innocent victims. The bottom line is they did not want a baby so they understood the procedure “gets rid” of the baby. Rationalization fails. They all knew I don’t want a baby (person), and I want to believe the rationalization and try to convince myself at a certain stage it’s not a person yet. Sorry. This is why they are messed up still today. They are still trying to believe the lie. But the fact they still want to believe the lie means they still don’t repent of what they’ve done. They know in their hearts what they did. It conflicts with the rationalization because they know the rationalization they tried to believe all this time, is not a sufficient lie to cover the truth.

I feel sorry for them. I will not declare them victims in the sense they escape responsibility for their actions. They are sinners preyed upon by other sinners, in this particular case. It is a sad situation all around and I do hope they can get some peace by acknowledging the truth of what they did to God, and asking forgiveness for it.


116 posted on 04/26/2012 9:50:17 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: volunbeer
the danger of feminism and “pro-choice” is that men abdicate their responsibility to the woman and the child they fathered

Why is it that men are only spoken of in terms of responsibilities rather than rights?

The "danger" of feminism has already been realized in law: every man is barred by law from legally protecting his own children between conception and birth.

117 posted on 04/26/2012 9:54:34 AM PDT by DNA.2012
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To: grundle
The heart of the article is nothings changed in how this woman sees taking the life of a child, she remains Pro-Abortion as follows:

The best way to answer the question:....... ‘Should I have been a teen mother,’ is by asking myself how I would advise a young girl in a similar situation.......... If my .... 17-year-old god-daughter asked what she should do,......" I Would Advise Her To Have An Abortion."

118 posted on 04/26/2012 9:55:00 AM PDT by caww
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To: Lancey Howard

The Daily Mail is a great paper. They successfully show this woman at what we hope here is a midpoint: remorse for the bad consequences for herself, but not yet aware of God. Even the Catholic Church accepts remorse for bad consequences as sufficient remorse (in the confessional).


119 posted on 04/26/2012 9:55:00 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: Politicalmom

The article is all fluff.....for she states she would advise her own 17 yr. old god-daughter to abort if she became pregnant.


120 posted on 04/26/2012 9:57:08 AM PDT by caww
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