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Maine safest state, Louisiana the most violent
upi.com ^ | 25 April 2012 | uspi

Posted on 04/25/2012 9:32:22 PM PDT by smokingfrog

The United States is less violent today than at any time in the last 20 years -- Maine was the least violent state and Louisiana the most violent, a group says.

The United States Peace Index, produced by Institute for Economics and Peace, found Cambridge, Mass., the most peaceful metropolitan area and Detroit the most violent.

The index analyzes peacefulness at the state and city levels, via five indicators: The number of homicides, number of violent crimes, the incarceration rate, number of police employees and the availability of small arms.

There were improvements in all indicators from the 2011 to the 2012 Index. The national homicide rate decreased by 3.78 percent, the violent crime rate fell 6.03 percent and the total number of state prisoners fell by 0.6 percent.

(Excerpt) Read more at upi.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; violence

1 posted on 04/25/2012 9:32:25 PM PDT by smokingfrog
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To: smokingfrog

The United States Peace Index, produced by “Institute for Economics and Peace”...


Leftie organizations always give themselves away.


2 posted on 04/25/2012 9:39:03 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: smokingfrog

What a crock.


3 posted on 04/25/2012 9:41:40 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: smokingfrog

Guess which areas have a high percentage of Holders People and which have a low percentage?


4 posted on 04/25/2012 9:43:52 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: smokingfrog

Looks to me like they have this all basackwards. Wonder why they didn’t include New York, Illinois or California in their stats.


5 posted on 04/25/2012 9:48:16 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: smokingfrog
...five indicators: The number of homicides, number of violent crimes, the incarceration rate, number of police employees and the availability of small arms.

Wouldn't it have been a whole lot simpler and more honest to count just the first two -- that is, the actual violence -- as "violence"?

But then, the "Institute for Economics and Peace" might not have gotten the result they wanted...

6 posted on 04/25/2012 9:49:54 PM PDT by Hunton Peck (See my FR homepage for a list of businesses that support WI Gov. Scott Walker)
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To: Grams A

Lets see you’re stats?


7 posted on 04/25/2012 9:51:13 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: yarddog

Mmmmm ...

This requires further study.

/s


8 posted on 04/25/2012 9:51:53 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

I would imagine both states have fairly lax gun laws, I know Maine does. The difference is New Orleans. That city is a wretched hive of scum and villainy.


9 posted on 04/25/2012 9:57:15 PM PDT by Peter from Rutland
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New Orleans has a high violent crime rate. Its average annual per-capita homicide rate (59 per 100,000) ranks highest of large cities in the country from 1990 to 2010 per Bureau Of Justice Statistics from FBI Uniform Crime Reports.
10 posted on 04/25/2012 9:57:26 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: EagleUSA

When you look at a break down of crime, it is not a surprise the states that are 80-90 percent white are less violent.


11 posted on 04/25/2012 9:57:53 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: yarddog

Guess which areas have a high percentage of Holders People and which have a low percentage?


Yep.


12 posted on 04/25/2012 10:00:11 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: SaraJohnson

When you look at a break down of crime, it is not a surprise the states that are 80-90 percent white are less violent.


That’s a fact.


13 posted on 04/25/2012 10:02:24 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: smokingfrog

It’s safe because people are scared to go out after dark for fear of the two ugly state senators and that one gaze into their craven heads would turn them into zombies in name only or just turn them into traditional stone.

Yep, it’s a safe state.


14 posted on 04/25/2012 10:04:00 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: smokingfrog

I’m sure there are characteristics of each state that could explain this. But I’ve thought about it for hours and I just can’t figure it out.


15 posted on 04/25/2012 10:09:41 PM PDT by Jay Santos CP ("Idiocracy"... It's no longer just a movie.)
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To: Peter from Rutland


I would imagine both states have fairly lax gun laws, I know Maine does. The difference is New Orleans. That city is a wretched hive of scum and villainy.

The difference is demographics. LA is 32% black, whereas ME is 1% black. All of the southern states are more crime-ridden than the rest of the nation because %-wise they have way more blacks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_African-American_population

The stereotype is that southern whites are violent. The truth is that they were more prone to vigilantism in the past, whereas blacks everywhere tend to commit 8x as many crimes on a per capita basis. Obviously black criminals are a small minority of the black population, but these criminals do account for about 50% of the crimes in the country, despite blacks only being 12% of the population.


16 posted on 04/25/2012 10:25:56 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: smokingfrog
Black Population Per State and Its Percentage of the State's Population

Louisiana:

Total Pop. = 4,482,646

Black Pop. = 1,451,944

Black Pop. As % of Total = 32.4 %

Maine:
Total Pop. = 1,294,464

Black Pop. = 6,760

Black Pop. As % of Total = 0.5 %


17 posted on 04/25/2012 10:31:21 PM PDT by Iron Munro (If Repub's paid as much attention to Rush Limbaugh as the Dem's do, we wouldn't be in this mess)
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To: smokingfrog

Wait, Louisiana or New Orleans?

Because New Orleans is a real damn special kind of Hell hole, ain’t nuthin’ else like it.


18 posted on 04/25/2012 10:32:20 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Zhang Fei

We live out in the sticks in Alaska, everybody has a gun with them at all times come this time of year; hasn’t been a murder in 30 years and that guy was drowned by his drunk buddies; not an Afri Amer within 300 miles of our community, no crime what so ever. The Indians get drunk, but no problems. I couldn’t imagine what I read about the urban areas of the USA nowadays.


19 posted on 04/25/2012 10:39:29 PM PDT by Eska
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To: Grams A

The least violent - “Metropolitan Peace Index Results

1 Cambridge-Newton-Framingham, MA”

Not Cambridge with Boston? No manipulation of the data here. /sarc

I think this lefty organ maybe out of Cambridge.


20 posted on 04/25/2012 10:40:16 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: smokingfrog

This article is so full of crap I don’t know where to start. No doubt the author is from the safest city, BY COINCIDENCE. LOL I thought for a minute I was reading a high school newspaper.


21 posted on 04/25/2012 10:53:00 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: Iron Munro
Louisiana: Black Pop. % of Total = 32.4 %

Maine: Black Pop. % of Total = 0.5 %

Hammer, this is nail. Nail, this is hammer.

22 posted on 04/25/2012 10:56:03 PM PDT by Ken H (Austerity is the irresistible force. Entitlements are the immovable object.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Ever wonder why whites in Dixie used to act that way?

Proof is in the pudding today...no fear....run amuck ...the primitives that is


23 posted on 04/25/2012 11:19:40 PM PDT by wardaddy (I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
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To: smokingfrog
"the availability of small arms"

Is that supposed to be an indicator of more violence or less violence?

24 posted on 04/25/2012 11:40:41 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (Don't nuke me, bro)
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To: smokingfrog
It's all very nice that the US is less violent now, except that I'm not sure the criteria they use are very relevent.

Why, for example, does "number of police employees" affect how violent a city is? There's a causal relationship, but surely it is the effectiveness of the police, not merely their numbers, which cut into crime. Besides, the simple fact is that 85%+ of all crime is against property, not the person. A large police force may be spending most of its time investigating burglaries and traffic offences rather than assaults. As for "the availability of small arms", surely it is the USE of guns, not the owning of them, that indicates a level of violence in a society. s not neccesarily mean that a society is violent.

An essential tool for modern living is the ability to "talk back" to statistics. Once you do that, as other posters have stated, you soon find that these surveys usually do nothing more than confirm the prejudices and opinions of the people who conduct them. On the occasional instances when they don't, the results would no doubt quietly disappear.

25 posted on 04/26/2012 12:43:26 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: chris37

Because New Orleans is a real damn special kind of Hell hole, ain’t nuthin’ else like it.

My favorite author, Hunter S. Thompson, characterized N’awlins as a “sewer with a high crime rate”.


26 posted on 04/26/2012 2:46:38 AM PDT by Artie
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To: yarddog
Guess which areas have a high percentage of Holders People and which have a low percentage?

A lot of Somalian refugees have gone to Maine for the generous welfare.

27 posted on 04/26/2012 3:14:00 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: PapaBear3625

African blacks who come here tend to be hardworking and seek to better themselves through education, in my experience. They know what hell awaits through tribalism, totalitarianism and social breakdown, and are grateful to have escaped it.

Chasing after benefits is not a good sign though, if what you point out is broadly true.


28 posted on 04/26/2012 3:22:30 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: UnwashedPeasant
Is [availability of small arms] supposed to be an indicator of more violence or less violence?
I suppose that if you are a professional home invader, you will perceive a neighborhood with high availability of small arms as especially violent, unpeaceful, and generally unpleasant.
29 posted on 04/26/2012 4:22:18 AM PDT by cartan
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To: smokingfrog

Surprised they didn’t say, “High percentage of Cajuns and alligators in Louizyana. Potential for violence therefore nearly unlimited.”

This study is a crock.


30 posted on 04/26/2012 4:42:17 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("Deport all Muslims. Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind.")
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To: smokingfrog

Note: Chicago is not a state and was not ranked


31 posted on 04/26/2012 4:43:57 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: smokingfrog
and the availability of small arms.

In the hands of the wrong people. Put them into the hands of law abiding citizens and watch the crime rate shoot downward.

32 posted on 04/26/2012 5:05:25 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Romney vs. Obama? One of them has to lose, rejoice in that fact, whichever it is.)
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To: smokingfrog
Do I dare ask about the racial makes ups of Maine and Louisiana?

Oh, excuse me that’s a racial thought ain't it!

33 posted on 04/26/2012 7:44:25 AM PDT by Nip (TANSTAAFL and BOHICA)
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To: Hunton Peck
"... and the availability of small arms."

We loves us some guns in Louisiana! Something to celebrate IMHO.

34 posted on 04/26/2012 7:50:48 AM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies ... plan it.)
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To: Artie

Hunter was being kind.

I spent around 85% of my life in New Orleans, and I do not ever want to return there again.

It’s not even a nice place to visit.


35 posted on 04/26/2012 8:34:00 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: yarddog

“Guess which areas have a high percentage of Holders People and which have a low percentage?”

That was a very realist thing to say. ;-)


36 posted on 04/26/2012 11:09:02 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

It’s interesting that when libs want to rank states or regions for health, they count widespread availability of doctors and medical facilities as a positive factor, but when they want to rank them for violence, they count widespread availability of police and small arms as a negative factor.


37 posted on 04/26/2012 11:46:56 AM PDT by Hunton Peck (See my FR homepage for a list of businesses that support WI Gov. Scott Walker)
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