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Rural kids, parents angry about Labor Dept. rule banning farm chores (nanny state cont'd)
The Daily Caller ^ | 4/25/12 | Patrick Richardson

Posted on 04/25/2012 5:51:20 AM PDT by AT7Saluki

A proposal from the Obama administration to prevent children from doing farm chores has drawn plenty of criticism from rural-district members of Congress. But now it’s attracting barbs from farm kids themselves.

The Department of Labor is poised to put the finishing touches on a rule that would apply child-labor laws to children working on family farms, prohibiting them from performing a list of jobs on their own families’ land.

Under the rules, children under 18 could no longer work “in the storing, marketing and transporting of farm product raw materials.”

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KEYWORDS: 2012; bloodoftyrants; claire; communism; democrats; elections; farm; govtabuse; labor; liberalfascism; mcaskill; nlrb; obama; rural; tyranny; tyrant; unconstitutional; union; waronliberty
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It's getting harder and harder to not accuse this administration of a concerted takeover plot.
1 posted on 04/25/2012 5:51:27 AM PDT by AT7Saluki
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To: AT7Saluki

Nothing like putting family farms out of business, by raising their costs beyond reason.


2 posted on 04/25/2012 5:55:12 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: AT7Saluki

I’d say ignore it. Unless the government plans to spend billions of dollars placing a full time inspector on every family farm in America it’s unenforceable anyway.


3 posted on 04/25/2012 5:56:42 AM PDT by apillar
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To: AT7Saluki

“The Department of Labor is poised to put the finishing touches on a rule”

Can these dipshi#s just make up any rule they want?


4 posted on 04/25/2012 5:57:25 AM PDT by toomanylaws
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To: AT7Saluki
Say good-bye to 4-H projects.


5 posted on 04/25/2012 5:57:49 AM PDT by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: AT7Saluki

Any truth to the rumor that this bill has been named, “Work For Wetbacks”?


6 posted on 04/25/2012 5:58:23 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: AT7Saluki
Under the rules, children under 18 could no longer work “in the storing, marketing and transporting of farm product raw materials.”

...but if they would like to engage in premarital sex or have an abortion, the DNC will continue to do everything in its' power to protect their rights to rebel against their parents.

7 posted on 04/25/2012 5:58:59 AM PDT by Elvina ( crimethink - To even consider any thought not in line with the principles of Ingsoc.)
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To: apillar
I’d say ignore it. Unless the government plans to spend billions of dollars placing a full time inspector on every family farm in America it’s unenforceable anyway.

A full time inspector would mean more government jobs, more Obama support and they are paid for with your tax money. It seems likely to me.

8 posted on 04/25/2012 5:59:58 AM PDT by Bob Buchholz
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To: AT7Saluki
I can remember when the local high school football teams tried to get hired for the potato harvest to get in shape. It made more sense than doing jumping jacks on a field.

I worked on a chicken farm, 85,000 chickens, you shoveled food in at one end of the barn and shoveled the poop out at the other.

It was a shovel ready job long before Obama came on the scene.

9 posted on 04/25/2012 6:00:44 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: AT7Saluki

ignore the law........

ignore the lawyers. There is no way to enforce such an abomination and it should be declared OS (like BS only without proper credentials).


10 posted on 04/25/2012 6:02:43 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: AT7Saluki
Under the rules, children under 18 could no longer work “in the storing, marketing and transporting of farm product raw materials.”

This means that any kid cannot serve themselves a breakfast containing cereal, milk and eggs (transporting) or offering it to other family members (marketing) or put the cereal box, milk or eggs away (storing).

11 posted on 04/25/2012 6:02:43 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Roccus

It’s more a “war on independent living”.


12 posted on 04/25/2012 6:03:03 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: AT7Saluki
Ignore it. If they come from the farmers, they'll find they knocked over the whole damn hornets nest.

Enough of this bulls*t.

13 posted on 04/25/2012 6:03:23 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: AT7Saluki

This is just plain stoopid; not to mention a nightmare to enforce to begin with. Oh! Another beauraucracy created! Voila! It’s the Marxist way.


14 posted on 04/25/2012 6:03:52 AM PDT by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

That chickenpoop could make some nice methane to run the natural gas heaters in the winter...
just an observation.


15 posted on 04/25/2012 6:04:30 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: AT7Saluki
The new regulations, first proposed August 31 by Labor Secretary Hilda Solis, would also revoke the government’s approval of safety training and certification taught by independent groups like 4-H and FFA, replacing them instead with a 90-hour federal government training course.

The cat's out of the bag...........by ending these programs fewer young people will go into agriculture thus forcing more family farms to be sold to the likes of Monsanto and ConAgra. It's plain and simple -- follow the money folks.

16 posted on 04/25/2012 6:05:13 AM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Elvina

The number one target of the left and their ideological “father” (John 8:42-44) is the destruction of the family.

You see this in every policy coming out of the left.


17 posted on 04/25/2012 6:05:37 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Raycpa
This means that any kid cannot serve themselves a breakfast containing cereal, milk and eggs (transporting) or offering it to other family members (marketing) or put the cereal box, milk or eggs away (storing).

PERFECT!!!!

18 posted on 04/25/2012 6:06:41 AM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Rock pickin and hay balin around here. Our school’s vice principal used to work with us on the farms during the summer.


19 posted on 04/25/2012 6:07:41 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: AT7Saluki

This is purely the fault of congress.

They abdicate their responsibilities to the executive branch when they give it rule making authority through various laws. Then bitch when there’s overreach and abuse.

They need to step up, stop being lazy, earn their paychecks and be accountable by voting on these issues.


20 posted on 04/25/2012 6:09:13 AM PDT by Nickname
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To: AT7Saluki

Look for the “union only” stipulation concerning the tilling of US so. /s (or not).


21 posted on 04/25/2012 6:14:48 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: AT7Saluki

This is the craziest thing I have ever heard. I live in south~central Kentucky, where family farms abound. From the time kids are old enough to walk they’re helping out on the farms.
Our traditional, American way of life is almost GONE.


22 posted on 04/25/2012 6:15:31 AM PDT by bearsgirl90
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To: the invisib1e hand

US so > US soil.


23 posted on 04/25/2012 6:15:44 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

I grew up on a small family farm and worked for a neighbor farmer who was no relation to me. It was hard work and I survied nicely, I learned how to and know how to work.

My grandchildren ALL grew up working on their other grandfathers corperate farm. (Under this new law they would not be allowed to work on that farm). Each one of them graduated from high school at the top of their class and went on to college doing the same. They KNOW and learned the work ethic on that farm. Each of them has achieved success in their chosen fields (One is a LT. in the U.S. Navy and two are music teachers).

This new law only veils the attempt to create jobs for illegals. It will definitely hurt the all farmers.


24 posted on 04/25/2012 6:18:35 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: apillar

“Hold it right there. You men from the bank?”
“You Wash’s boy?”
“Yessir and Daddy told me I’m to shoot whoever’s from the bank.”
“Well, we ain’t from the bank young feller.”
“Yessir, I’m also s’posed to shoot folks serving papers.”
“We ain’t got no papers neither.”
“I nicked the census man.”
“Now there’s a good boy.”


25 posted on 04/25/2012 6:23:08 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: AT7Saluki

“in the storing, marketing and transporting of farm product raw materials.”

What does that even mean? Anything some government bureacrat says it does?

If you had a roadside market a kid couldn’t take the money because, I guess, that would be dangerous or unhealthy for a kid of any age. Could they even shovel sh&& from their own horse’s stall?


26 posted on 04/25/2012 6:23:55 AM PDT by tiki
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To: apillar

Problem is.. the public school system is programming the kids to rat out their parents. They don’t even enforcement personal to find the violators.

The kids who don’t want to do the work will simply turn their parents in.


27 posted on 04/25/2012 6:28:17 AM PDT by cableguymn (Good thing I am a conservative. Otherwise I would have to support Mittens like Republicans do.)
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To: apillar

Problem is.. the public school system is programming the kids to rat out their parents. They don’t even need enforcement personal to find the violators.

The kids who don’t want to do the work will simply turn their parents in.


28 posted on 04/25/2012 6:28:30 AM PDT by cableguymn (Good thing I am a conservative. Otherwise I would have to support Mittens like Republicans do.)
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To: AT7Saluki

There are many people here on FR who do not care about such things. For them, the only thing that matters is that their candidate speaks about homosexuality and condoms while running for President. Never mind that their candidate helps the cause of Communism.


29 posted on 04/25/2012 6:30:35 AM PDT by JimWayne
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To: JimWayne

I can not agree with you more!!!! When a Presidential candidate starts to pontificate about condoms, homosexuality, and other social issues best left to the individual and or the state, I just start shaking my head and figure we have another looser in the race.
I have always thought that if we get this country’s economy running right, don’t waste money on everything the government wants to spend money on, then everything else will fall in place. Keep the economy strong, the government small, and mind you own business.


30 posted on 04/25/2012 6:53:23 AM PDT by rustyboots
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

***I worked on a chicken farm, 85,000 chickens, you shoveled food in at one end of the barn and shoveled the poop out at the other. ***

Been there, done that.


31 posted on 04/25/2012 9:04:44 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: tiki
What does that even mean? Anything some government bureacrat says it does?

Yes, just like Obamacare, "congress shall make no law" has been replaces with "at the discretion of the Secretary".

32 posted on 04/25/2012 9:07:09 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: AT7Saluki

Rebel America. It is the only viable option left.


33 posted on 04/25/2012 9:10:28 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: MrB

Turning point was a long time back...we are now over the edge in free fall...how do I know?
Note the national uproar of millions over this ruling...
yep...crickets and a few bloggers and FR posters noting the lunacy...but no uproar...apathy...
...had this been tried even in the 1970s they would have been in full retreat by now.


34 posted on 04/25/2012 9:11:17 AM PDT by An American! (Proud To Be An American!)
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To: AT7Saluki

Of course, once there are no family farms, and agriculture is thoroughly collectivized, they’ll revoke the rule.


35 posted on 04/25/2012 9:12:56 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The Dems have 'Hope & Change.' All the Romney Republicans have is 'We sure Hope he's Changed.')
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To: AT7Saluki
prohibiting them from performing a list of jobs on their own families’ land.

The government is out of control. It's gotten too big. It's dictating our every move.

Maybe an economic collapse is the only way to kill the beast. Never again should Americans ever think about electing others to "lead" them. It never ends well.

36 posted on 04/25/2012 9:16:15 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: bearsgirl90
"....farmers could soon find The Labor Department’s Wage and Hour Division inspectors on their land, citing them for violations....." This line should be corrected: "....farmers could soon be feeding Labor Department’s Wage and Hour Division inspectors to their hogs..."
37 posted on 04/25/2012 9:19:19 AM PDT by pierrem15 (Claudius: "Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out.")
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To: Daffynition

>Say good-bye to 4-H projects.

That is, I think, the goal.
“Nothing outside the state.” — Description of Facisim


38 posted on 04/25/2012 9:24:07 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Gabz
would also revoke the government’s approval of safety training and certification taught by independent groups like 4-H and FFA, replacing them instead with a 90-hour federal government training course.

Another government takeover. The tyrants are quickly eating away at every freedom they can find, and they're moving at a record pace.
One of their targets, especially, is Americas children. They want them as far away from their parents as they can get them. Here, they'll teach the children how government farms - like in Cuba - are more reasonable than privately owned farms, and how ridiculous their parents are for thinking otherwise.

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39 posted on 04/25/2012 9:24:14 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: EternalVigilance
Of course, once there are no family farms, and agriculture is thoroughly collectivized, they’ll revoke the rule.

Revoke?

Hell no!

At that point they will require kids to work on farms.

40 posted on 04/25/2012 9:24:44 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1191 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: apillar
I’d say ignore it. Unless the government plans to spend billions of dollars placing a full time inspector on every family farm in America it’s unenforceable anyway.

Yes, but they can then use it to harass those certain citizens that they might feel need to be dealt with.

41 posted on 04/25/2012 9:27:05 AM PDT by oldbrowser (They are Marxists, don't call them democrats)
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To: null and void

Well, that goes without saying.


42 posted on 04/25/2012 9:30:57 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The Dems have 'Hope & Change.' All the Romney Republicans have is 'We sure Hope he's Changed.')
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To: Daffynition

No FFA.
No Junior Rodeo.
No Horse Shows.
No kids who will grow up with a love for the farm & the animals.

No veterinarians-—no farmers—no food-no water—no future.

This needs to die.

WHO wrote this bill & introduced it into Congress in the first place????


43 posted on 04/25/2012 9:32:23 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: null and void

Well, maybe not ...


44 posted on 04/25/2012 9:32:39 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The Dems have 'Hope & Change.' All the Romney Republicans have is 'We sure Hope he's Changed.')
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To: null and void
At that point they will require kids to work on farms.

The US will become a liberal utopia - just like Cuba. Children will work in the fields after school so the Cuban people can have their "fair share" of what little food is avaiable. Everyone will be "allowed" only what's necessary to stay alive. The liberals will have achieved their life long dream of a satanic garden of Eden. There will be a blob of slop in every pot.

45 posted on 04/25/2012 9:35:03 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: EternalVigilance

Count on it.


46 posted on 04/25/2012 9:41:26 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1191 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: paul51

“Rebel America. It is the only viable option left.”

Getting to seem like that, is it not?

Just like 1856, all over again?


47 posted on 04/25/2012 9:43:23 AM PDT by Road Glide
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To: Road Glide

Only not neatly divided on geographical lines.


48 posted on 04/25/2012 9:47:26 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1191 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: AT7Saluki
If they can force infanticide into the Catholic and other churches, does that mean they can force this "No teaching responsibility to children" law on the Amish?
49 posted on 04/25/2012 9:54:53 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Catching the chickens and putting them in crates is fun too!


50 posted on 04/25/2012 9:58:43 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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