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Is there a drone in your neighbourhood?
The Daily Mail Online ^ | 05:15 EST, 24 April 2012 | Julian Gavaghan

Posted on 04/24/2012 6:23:05 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg

Is there a drone in your neighbourhood? Rise of spy planes exposed after FAA is forced to reveal 63 launch sites across U.S.

Unmanned spy planes are being launched from locations in 20 states and owners include the military and universities.

There are at least 63 active drone sites around the U.S, federal authorities have been forced to reveal following a landmark Freedom of Information lawsuit.

The unmanned planes – some of which may have been designed to kill terror suspects – are being launched from locations in 20 states.

Most of the active drones are deployed from military installations, enforcement agencies and border patrol teams, according to the Federal Aviation Authority.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2012; calea; cwii; domesticdrones; dontspyonme; donttreadonme; donutwatch; drone; dronelauchsites; dronelaunchsites; drones; dronesfaa; dronesus; govtabuse; lping; neighborhooddrones; possecomitatus; tyranny
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To: muir_redwoods

Yes, imagine my son’s surprise as a UCONN student! It is quite an uneasy feeling he has, and I share.

61 posted on 04/24/2012 9:53:11 AM PDT by gidget7 ("When a man assumes a public trust, he should consider himself as public property." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Mad Dawgg

Mine is Travis Air Force Base in Fairfield California. Why do we need these? Who are they afraid of? Joe citizen?

62 posted on 04/24/2012 10:03:01 AM PDT by crazydad
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To: crazydad

They are probably just going to be used to track those lost dogs that have the microchips in them. Of course Big Government would never use them to track its citizens. After all, this is the USA where we are a free people with a constitution to protect us, right?

63 posted on 04/24/2012 10:10:26 AM PDT by Principle Over Politics (Romney 2012 is McCain 2008. No more RINOs! It was good while it lasted, Sarah.)
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To: Mad Dawgg

I live in California, one of the most Democratic states of the union. So yes, I’m surrounded by drones. ROFLMAO!

64 posted on 04/24/2012 10:22:47 AM PDT by MissesBush (The Fourth Estate has Become a Fifth Column)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The unmanned planes – some of which may have been designed to kill terror suspects – are being launched from locations in 20 states.

A clear violation of Posse Comitatus.

Why does anybody think the government really cares about violating laws anymore?

65 posted on 04/24/2012 10:37:36 AM PDT by wastedyears (There can be only one.)
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To: jboot

I’ve heard that you can light matches with that thing.

66 posted on 04/24/2012 10:38:55 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Look for the union label, then buy elsewhere.)
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To: Mad Dawgg
<> link to program that was in effect in 2006 (during Bush)

here is a comment from the article ........

I've been aware of USDA drones for at least 10 years here in North Dakota. The Ag Dept wants to be sure farmers are following agreed upon government programs. No one is told that's the game, but if a farmer varies one iota from his ‘contract’’ a government agent arrives within hours to ‘get answers’. We aren't on any programs, but have had these things overhead 24/7 for ten years that I've been aware of them. They don't fly back to their ‘rookery’ every night, either. They are either solar or nuclear powered; extremely stable, very nimble; very aware of any movement on the ground even in the dead of night. They will ‘follow’ a person checking on livestock at 1 am on a moonless night. I don't even need a flashlight to be ‘seen’. Wonderful technology... perfect privacy on 1700 acres with nearest neighbor 5 1/2 miles away on dirt roads! Gosh, do I ever feel safe!? - donna k., Emmons Co., ND, USA, 24/4/2012 17:53

67 posted on 04/24/2012 10:46:33 AM PDT by freedommom
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To: All

Curiosity question for the field: what’s the difference between drone surveillance and helicopter surveillance? For the latter has been happening for decades.

As I was growing up in semi-rural Florida, night-flying helicopters with search lights on them were routine. Later on, they added heat-seeking cameras in the hopes of locating in-home marijuana-growing operations.

This stuff isn’t new... if we’re complaining about losing privacy, searches without warrants, and government monitoring... well, sorry, but that ship has sailed — decades ago.

The only difference now is that it will be easier and cheaper for the feds/police/et al to do it. And the drones aren’t going to alert the entire neighborhood, like a chopper would.

Hey, your house, your address, and more have always been publicly accessible. It took Google Street View to make it creepy and easy for everybody to spy on one another. Drones will just do the same for the Powers That Be. But somebody’s gonna have to convince a judge that it’s wrong despite it having been routine for years.

68 posted on 04/24/2012 10:46:57 AM PDT by alancarp (Liberals are all for shared pain... until they're included in the pain group.)
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To: Mad Dawgg
Organizations That Have Sought to Use Drones

Yes, the US press covers this as well. Just the Brits are the A team when it comes to splashing it across the front page.

69 posted on 04/24/2012 11:07:03 AM PDT by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: Le Chien Rouge
I did not see the drone location in Montgomery co., Texas. The MC sheriffs office was just plain giddy when they received their DHS grant for the drone.

The boy’z were testing their toy’z and the damn thing crashed into the swat tank.....funny as all get out!!!!

70 posted on 04/24/2012 11:07:48 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: crazydad
>>Who are they afraid of? Joe citizen?<<

Patriot Act, NDAA, Drones, DHS grants to civilian law enforcement, TSA expansion to highways and bus lines, surveillance cameras installed at every intersection, every roadway and throughout urban areas. Viper units, back scatter x-ray vans....and on and on and on.

I believe Uncle Sugar is gearing up for something...not sure what, but hundreds of millions being spent to monitor U.S. citizens.

71 posted on 04/24/2012 11:18:12 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: RandallFlagg
It'll slice up thin plastics and wires, too. What it does to optical sensors is just plan wrong. And expensive.

One of those stocked up nice with a 3rd or 4th Gen night rifle scope and a good momentary switch will ruin Big Brother Robot's night out. (And yours, too, if Big Brother catches you.) But always remember the first rule of laser gun fighting: never shoot at reflective surfaces. It isn't just for sci-fi novels anymore.


72 posted on 04/24/2012 11:27:30 AM PDT by jboot
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To: Strategerist; Egon
Imagine my surprise that there is no domestic coverage of this story. The Daily Mail comes through again.

FR, as usual, says "why isn't this being covered in the US?" Perhaps it is, and the poster just didn't do an exhaustive check, because he knows the Guardian likes to ferret out stuff like this. EFF is obviously the source article for the Guardian report. Maybe the better question is "where can you find this information being hand-fed to the American Public." EFF is not underground, but sources such as EFF and Wired aren't being programmed into the majority of American Homes along with the nightly news.

I can think of a number of legitimate applications for the use of various drones: keeping track of wildlife herd migrations comes to mind, as well as traffic monitoring without the use of more expensive multiple "Eye In The Sky Chopper One" news helecopters.

Also, as Strategerist points out, somebody needs to do the engineering on these useful platforms. Who better than university engineering programs.

However, this new technology, like Google Streetview war-driving and a Google/Federal Government data nexus, needs to be watched for abuses. Emerging technology is always a frontier (in the Wild West sense).

73 posted on 04/24/2012 12:26:16 PM PDT by RhoTheta ("We're from the Government, and we're here to help you ... NOT")
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To: crazydad
Relax, Dick Cheney and some political drones went duck hunting......0bama and his military drones are dog hunting.

_residential golfing is hungry work. (yes I did highjack a thread about drones to bring up 0bama eats dogs)

74 posted on 04/24/2012 12:43:41 PM PDT by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded)
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To: Mad Dawgg

As an OU grad, I appreciate the harvest time joke. Meigs County Gold.

75 posted on 04/24/2012 12:44:14 PM PDT by conservativebuckeye
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To: servantboy777

I know this will sound conspiritorial. But I have been reading about Planet X coming back this year. I know I know sounds kookoo but with all the earth changes and the earthquakes and crazy weather I truly believe that could possibly what they are gearing up for. Some web sites speculate it might be a pole shift and that will cause mass devestation to the world. Earthquakes, volcanos. Shifting of the tectonic plates. Millions of dead around the world and in the USA. FEMA camps and plastic coffins around the country, now drones all over, the question is “what are they truly expecting”? OK flame away.

76 posted on 04/24/2012 12:48:30 PM PDT by crazydad
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77 posted on 04/24/2012 1:21:34 PM PDT by RedMDer (
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To: Mad Dawgg

That sword cuts both ways:

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private drone over neighborhood provides aerial eye in sky (Video)

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Draganflyer X6

78 posted on 04/24/2012 2:40:03 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: Mad Dawgg
I see at least one site that was missed - Cannon AFB in Clovis, NM. Seen 'em. Know people who fly 'em.

The capabilities of these aircraft are grossly underestimated.

79 posted on 04/24/2012 4:17:43 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: conservativebuckeye
"As an OU grad, I appreciate the harvest time joke. Meigs County Gold."

Years ago my family was part of the National Hikers and Campers association. Each year they have a national campvention. Thousands of people from all over the USA and Canada and Mexico hook up their Camping trailers or load up the motor homes and head to a selected site usually a large state fairgrounds. In 1979n they settled on a site in Ontario Canada.

I loved these get events as a kid you would get a few friends and walk around the grounds and meet people from all over the country. Tradition was you'd walk up to people and shake hands and say your name and the State (or province) you were from.

My group of friends would always say "We're from Southern Ohio." the First group of people we met in Ontario replied 'Southern Ohio? Meigs County Ohio? You got any to sell?

We all laughed about it and talked abit and then moved on to the next group. Again: "Southern Ohio? Meigs County? Oh man that is the best stuff I ever had."

Didn't matter if we met people from West Virginia or California or Old Mexico Everybody knew about Meigs county!

80 posted on 04/24/2012 4:39:01 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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