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Posted on 04/24/2012 6:23:05 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg
Is there a drone in your neighbourhood? Rise of spy planes exposed after FAA is forced to reveal 63 launch sites across U.S.
Unmanned spy planes are being launched from locations in 20 states and owners include the military and universities.
There are at least 63 active drone sites around the U.S, federal authorities have been forced to reveal following a landmark Freedom of Information lawsuit.
The unmanned planes some of which may have been designed to kill terror suspects are being launched from locations in 20 states.
Most of the active drones are deployed from military installations, enforcement agencies and border patrol teams, according to the Federal Aviation Authority.
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I am not sure I would want to be droning over a grumpybutt anyway.
University of Connecticut campus. LOL
Hahaha, good one!
Congress recently passed the FAA Modernization and Reform Act of 2012, which along with funding the Federal Aviation Administration's budget through 2015 encourages the acceleration of unmanned aircraft programs in U.S. airspace.
Only if one is carrying his paycheck. Dude has jumped into the shark's mouth...
No worries mate...
There is nothing imbecilic or idiotic about commenting on an article and positing reasons why, what you say is perfectly legitimate research, is apparently not being publicly discussed in the domestic press. Im not convinced youre right but the subject is worthy of discussion and no one is an idiot or an imbecile for doing so.
You may be unaware but back in the late 50s, UCONN conducted nuclear research and dumped radioactive waste by the roadside in rural Connecticut. Not far from where I live is a vacant lot where a breakfast restaurant and gift store once stood. The remediation team that cleaned up the site tore it down after buying out the owners.
By my nature and experience I do not trust any government, local, state or federal. A state university is an agent of the government and its research in this area may be perfectly reasonable, responsible and benign. UCONN cannot claim to have always acted so.
It's OK, I have a rooster to give me a heads up.
Yes, imagine my son’s surprise as a UCONN student! It is quite an uneasy feeling he has, and I share.
Mine is Travis Air Force Base in Fairfield California. Why do we need these? Who are they afraid of? Joe citizen?
They are probably just going to be used to track those lost dogs that have the microchips in them. Of course Big Government would never use them to track its citizens. After all, this is the USA where we are a free people with a constitution to protect us, right?
I live in California, one of the most Democratic states of the union. So yes, I’m surrounded by drones. ROFLMAO!
A clear violation of Posse Comitatus.
Why does anybody think the government really cares about violating laws anymore?
I’ve heard that you can light matches with that thing.
here is a comment from the article ........
I've been aware of USDA drones for at least 10 years here in North Dakota. The Ag Dept wants to be sure farmers are following agreed upon government programs. No one is told that's the game, but if a farmer varies one iota from his ‘contract’’ a government agent arrives within hours to ‘get answers’. We aren't on any programs, but have had these things overhead 24/7 for ten years that I've been aware of them. They don't fly back to their ‘rookery’ every night, either. They are either solar or nuclear powered; extremely stable, very nimble; very aware of any movement on the ground even in the dead of night. They will ‘follow’ a person checking on livestock at 1 am on a moonless night. I don't even need a flashlight to be ‘seen’. Wonderful technology... perfect privacy on 1700 acres with nearest neighbor 5 1/2 miles away on dirt roads! Gosh, do I ever feel safe!? - donna k., Emmons Co., ND, USA, 24/4/2012 17:53
Curiosity question for the field: what’s the difference between drone surveillance and helicopter surveillance? For the latter has been happening for decades.
As I was growing up in semi-rural Florida, night-flying helicopters with search lights on them were routine. Later on, they added heat-seeking cameras in the hopes of locating in-home marijuana-growing operations.
This stuff isn’t new... if we’re complaining about losing privacy, searches without warrants, and government monitoring... well, sorry, but that ship has sailed — decades ago.
The only difference now is that it will be easier and cheaper for the feds/police/et al to do it. And the drones aren’t going to alert the entire neighborhood, like a chopper would.
Hey, your house, your address, and more have always been publicly accessible. It took Google Street View to make it creepy and easy for everybody to spy on one another. Drones will just do the same for the Powers That Be. But somebody’s gonna have to convince a judge that it’s wrong despite it having been routine for years.
Yes, the US press covers this as well. Just the Brits are the A team when it comes to splashing it across the front page.
The boy’z were testing their toy’z and the damn thing crashed into the swat tank.....funny as all get out!!!!
Patriot Act, NDAA, Drones, DHS grants to civilian law enforcement, TSA expansion to highways and bus lines, surveillance cameras installed at every intersection, every roadway and throughout urban areas. Viper units, back scatter x-ray vans....and on and on and on.
I believe Uncle Sugar is gearing up for something...not sure what, but hundreds of millions being spent to monitor U.S. citizens.
One of those stocked up nice with a 3rd or 4th Gen night rifle scope and a good momentary switch will ruin Big Brother Robot's night out. (And yours, too, if Big Brother catches you.) But always remember the first rule of laser gun fighting: never shoot at reflective surfaces. It isn't just for sci-fi novels anymore.
FR, as usual, says "why isn't this being covered in the US?" Perhaps it is, and the poster just didn't do an exhaustive check, because he knows the Guardian likes to ferret out stuff like this. EFF is obviously the source article for the Guardian report. Maybe the better question is "where can you find this information being hand-fed to the American Public." EFF is not underground, but sources such as EFF and Wired aren't being programmed into the majority of American Homes along with the nightly news.
I can think of a number of legitimate applications for the use of various drones: keeping track of wildlife herd migrations comes to mind, as well as traffic monitoring without the use of more expensive multiple "Eye In The Sky Chopper One" news helecopters.
Also, as Strategerist points out, somebody needs to do the engineering on these useful platforms. Who better than university engineering programs.
However, this new technology, like Google Streetview war-driving and a Google/Federal Government data nexus, needs to be watched for abuses. Emerging technology is always a frontier (in the Wild West sense).
_residential golfing is hungry work. (yes I did highjack a thread about drones to bring up 0bama eats dogs)
As an OU grad, I appreciate the harvest time joke. Meigs County Gold.
I know this will sound conspiritorial. But I have been reading about Planet X coming back this year. I know I know sounds kookoo but with all the earth changes and the earthquakes and crazy weather I truly believe that could possibly what they are gearing up for. Some web sites speculate it might be a pole shift and that will cause mass devestation to the world. Earthquakes, volcanos. Shifting of the tectonic plates. Millions of dead around the world and in the USA. FEMA camps and plastic coffins around the country, now drones all over, the question is “what are they truly expecting”? OK flame away.
That sword cuts both ways:
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The capabilities of these aircraft are grossly underestimated.
Years ago my family was part of the National Hikers and Campers association. Each year they have a national campvention. Thousands of people from all over the USA and Canada and Mexico hook up their Camping trailers or load up the motor homes and head to a selected site usually a large state fairgrounds. In 1979n they settled on a site in Ontario Canada.
I loved these get events as a kid you would get a few friends and walk around the grounds and meet people from all over the country. Tradition was you'd walk up to people and shake hands and say your name and the State (or province) you were from.
My group of friends would always say "We're from Southern Ohio." the First group of people we met in Ontario replied 'Southern Ohio? Meigs County Ohio? You got any to sell?
We all laughed about it and talked abit and then moved on to the next group. Again: "Southern Ohio? Meigs County? Oh man that is the best stuff I ever had."
Didn't matter if we met people from West Virginia or California or Old Mexico Everybody knew about Meigs county!
There isn’t one over Indiana. Darn it! I so much wanted to display my Ackroyd for them while working in my forbidden garden.
I find the states that have none interesting.
It’s not due to an absence of military installations. It’s not due to low population.
I’m wondering if state law has something to do with it.
“Im wondering if state law has something to do with it.”
Possibly; perhaps some of our resident legal experts can speak up on this.
And the feds have a data base from the Census having the GPS location within 60 feet of everyone’s home.They can access that data base surreptitiously and systematically without anyone knowing.
Just how good a rifle shot are you?
You may think they are kooks but I just read in my local paper here in Kansas about them and there were being used by a town and now since they have changed the FAA rules they can no longer fly them now.
At their operational altitudes, drones are invisible and inaudible.
Once upon a time people thought things like no knock raids, armed raids on guitar mfgrs. and oh, I dunno... the justice dept. turning a blind eye to terrorist groups intimidating voters was just ‘crazy talk’ too.
But by all means, have no suspicion. After all, Government is your friend. Especially the current one. Oh and did you hear? This week’s chocolate increased from 5 to 3 oz. this week!
There's a huge fema detention center in Fredrick, MD. I've seen it, plastic coffins and all. Also, jersey barriers are being ‘staged’ along various interstates around the country. The feds are gearing up for something.
I was wondering why Cannon Air Force Base wasn't on that list but wasn't going to say anything publicly until I saw your comment.
I was once the military reporter for the Clovis News Journal. I have no recent non-public information, but based on what I know was happening a half-decade ago, there may be entirely legitimate OPSEC reasons not to discuss this further on the internet. Let's just say there are reasons Cannon AFB was the only installation to be taken off the last BRAC closure list and not all of them were discussed publicly.
Nice profile photo, by the way. Am I correct in guessing that you share a love for elk hunting with a former Secretary of Defense? Those are beautiful beasts, and make great eating as well.
>And the line about some of which have been designed to kill terrorists refers to the fact that Predators carry Hellfires. Doesnt mean that they do, in the U.S., just that they can.
Considering that, in addition to the President’s assertion that he can order the assassination/killing/murder of a US citizen merely SUSPECTED of terrorism (and not on the battlefield), AND the National Defense Authorization Act, which [IIRC] makes the continental US a war-zone and I think that there is reason for concern.
TD&E takes time and space, and there are many builders as they explore the technology. . .from university students, Boy Scouts, to military testing. Those make up the majority of sites. I guess we could just built them and sell them to the military and never test them.
Armed UAV’s are not flying willy-nilly over US airspace. Those ops are the exclusive domain of military testing—period. More people need to understand these facts.
DHS, CBP Air and Marine has several locations and they fly a relatively small fleet along the border and over US seas.
FAA has a lock-down on UAV operations and restrictions require chase aircraft if they operate outside controlled airspace. . .therefore they are not just flying around everywhere. DHS CBP Air and Marine has an FAA waiver but they MUST remain in the cleared airpspace and not fly outside of that airspace, and if they do, it simple has to be darned important to justify it to the FAA. . .like a Border Patrol Agent in serious danger.
Heck, UAVs might lead to LE using helicopters and airplanes. . .gawd help us?
Oh. . .wait. . .never mind.
My local Sheriff’s Department is “authorized”. Lots of air activity in a place with many small regional airports...I can understand why it would be a good place to “test”, and one can’t deny the economic benefits of using drones instead of helicopters.
Get one of your own!!!
I shudda read ahead!
Government is your friend.
actually, i’ve been experimenting with similar units for a while
believe me... your red flags should be up over this story
Remember these folding wing jobs??
Scale it up just a little; get ya some bungee latex tubing for launching, and you have a HIGH altitude glider that makes NO buzzing sound at ALL!
DIY cruise missle: