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Mary Matalin on Rush today - and is she off base? (Stunned)
4-23-2012 | Self

Posted on 04/23/2012 9:30:05 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright

FREEPER COMMENTS REQUESTED: Is it just me, or is Mary Matalin way off base today with her entire theme for the show (guest hosting for Rush). Now I normally like her work tremendously, but her idea that we should search for "virtue" in government and for "virtuous people" to be in government seems extremely naive.

The only virtue in government is its limit. We will never get a government full of virtuous people. By definition, government is power and virtuous people are not drawn to that. Our Founders knew that. This is why they insisted on LIMITED government. Wake up Mary!


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To: dfwgator

Chris Matthews has hosted. (I’m guessing you already knew that ;-)


81 posted on 04/23/2012 10:12:46 AM PDT by upsdriver (Newt..... stop Romney, get to a brokered convention and start a DRAFT PALIN movement!)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Lame, feel-good blather is no substitute for Rush. The root of virtually all of our problems is Liberalism, Mary.


82 posted on 04/23/2012 10:12:52 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: upsdriver

Yep, I remember that day too, truly was a WTF moment.


83 posted on 04/23/2012 10:13:43 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: cubreporter
No one can fill in for Rush...no one!

But some are much better than others.

84 posted on 04/23/2012 10:14:15 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: upsdriver

Last caller and Mary agreed, debt is bondage. Good call.


85 posted on 04/23/2012 10:14:36 AM PDT by upsdriver (Newt..... stop Romney, get to a brokered convention and start a DRAFT PALIN movement!)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

You attacked her for asking for virtue in government.

Cut the weaseling.


86 posted on 04/23/2012 10:14:46 AM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: Hodar
Virtue and Gov’t have as much in common as a Haddock and a cowboy hat. Benjamin Franklin, was perhaps the first International Playboy. The joke at the time was that perhaps he really was the ‘Father of the nation”. No one questions his wisdom, no one questions his value as a statesman - but he made Pres. Clinton look like a choirboy in comparison.

Take your vile, unsubstantiated and calculated slander of Franklin somewhere else, shill. Franklin was a brilliant and moral Founder of this country. Clinton raped the Oval Office along with numerous women and the entire rest of the country.

Yeah, Hillary's going to run, but shop your support-crap for her on another website.

87 posted on 04/23/2012 10:14:46 AM PDT by Talisker (He who commands, must obey.)
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To: luvbach1

I’ll just keep the volume down until Sean comes on at 3PM.


88 posted on 04/23/2012 10:15:00 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: sickoflibs

Doesn’t matter who Rush puts on to host. Nobody here would like them anyway.

They may like them before the show, but they won’t after.

Or, they may hate them before the show and like them after or until they have to end up under the bus with the rest of the dirtbags.

Everyone is a RINO.

In fact, there are people posting here right now that were posting on threads barely a month ago that already threw Rush under the bus declaring they would never listen to him evah again!

Geesh, so funny.


89 posted on 04/23/2012 10:15:09 AM PDT by dforest
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To: relictele

-—Steyn apparently does long hits of nitrous oxide between air segments - he laughs and sputters for air uncontrollably through his monologues.-—

You put your finger on it. He’s always laughing at his own “jokes.”

I like most of Rush’s guest hosts. Roger is my favorite. Mary’s too boring. Steyn doesn’t bring much that’s substantial, if you listen carefully. We know everything sucks, Mark.


90 posted on 04/23/2012 10:15:58 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: Houghton M.

No, that’s not why I made the comment. Ignorant much?


91 posted on 04/23/2012 10:16:04 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: Mountain Mary

I wish I were drunk now. Maybe this interview would be more interesting.


92 posted on 04/23/2012 10:17:22 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Lazlo in PA
" Unless it is Mark Styne, the guest hosts suck on Rush.
I am not stunned."
yes, they do... seems his guests have carde blanke(?).. w/ no restrictions.
he's never had any NEWT supporting host (& yes, I'm happily biased :)
GO! NEWT! GO!

93 posted on 04/23/2012 10:17:43 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (the DNC / RNC = D.C. E$tabli$hment...Brazilian saying: "$@me $h!t, w!th d!fferent fl!e$". :^)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Is it just me, or is Mary Matalin way off base today with her entire theme for the show (guest hosting for Rush). Now I normally like her work tremendously, but her idea that we should search for "virtue" in government and for "virtuous people" to be in government seems extremely naive.

It's just you, but your believing this to be "extremely naive" is just a sad measure of how far things have slid since the founding:
Let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion. Reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle.
George Washington

If Virtue & Knowledge are diffused among the People, they will never be enslav'd. This will be their great Security.
Samuel Adams, letter to James Warren, February 12, 1779

Illustrious examples are displayed to our view, that we may imitate as well as admire. Before we can be distinguished by the same honors, we must be distinguished by the same virtues. What are those virtues? They are chiefly the same virtues, which we have already seen to be descriptive of the American character — the love of liberty, and the love of law.
James Wilson, Of the Study of the Law in the United States, Circa 1790

It is an object of vast magnitude that systems of education should be adopted and pursued which may not only diffuse a knowledge of the sciences but may implant in the minds of the American youth the principles of virtue and of liberty and inspire them with just and liberal ideas of government and with an inviolable attachment to their own country.
Noah Webster, On the Education of Youth in America

It is certainly true that a popular government cannot flourish without virtue in the people.
Richard Henry Lee, letter to Colonel Martin Pickett, March 5, 1786

It is necessary for every American, with becoming energy to endeavor to stop the dissemination of principles evidently destructive of the cause for which they have bled. It must be the combined virtue of the rulers and of the people to do this, and to rescue and save their civil and religious rights from the outstretched arm of tyranny, which may appear under any mode or form of government.
Mercy Warren, History of the Rise, Progress, and Termination of the American Revolution, 1805

Nothing is more essential to the establishment of manners in a State than that all persons employed in places of power and trust must be men of unexceptionable characters.
Samuel Adams, letter to James Warren, November 4, 1775

Religion, morality and knowledge being necessary to good government and the happiness of mankind, schools and the means of education shall forever be encouraged.
The Northwest Ordinance, July 23, 1787

Republics are created by the virtue, public spirit, and intelligence of the citizens. They fall, when the wise are banished from the public councils, because they dare to be honest, and the profligate are rewarded, because they flatter the people, in order to betray them.
Joseph Story, Commentaries on the Constitution, 1833


94 posted on 04/23/2012 10:18:02 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: chris37
After one sycophantic call she gushed: “We're having such good calls today!”
95 posted on 04/23/2012 10:18:28 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: Lazlo in PA

You don’t like Mark Belling?

He’s a classic


96 posted on 04/23/2012 10:18:36 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (Democrats...the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy, and Sedition)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

“Yes, I know the Founders wanted virtue - but their insurance policy against lack of virtue was LIMITED GOVERNMENT. Less government equals more virtue - and any body can figure that out.”

You refute yourself. Limited government cannot be an insurance policy against lack of virtue. Only virtuous adherence to limited government ensures limited government.

Anybody can’t figure that out—you can’t figure out that you contradict yourself.

Limited government does not exist as a thing in itself. It exists when people make choices. Limited government is not a thing that can be “insurance policy.”

Lmited government, when and where it actually takes place, IS the exercise of virtue in government.


97 posted on 04/23/2012 10:19:01 AM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Coma inducing. Even worse than Rove!


98 posted on 04/23/2012 10:19:01 AM PDT by HectorOne
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To: sickoflibs
Holy crap, this RINO is the best Rush could get today? I wont be listening. Besides being a RINO she is very annoying to listen to, like fingernail's across a chalk board. I didnt like her 20 years ago and I don't like her now.

The earlier subs were good like Williams & Hedgecock. These "Mark's" & this women don't make it & I do not listen to any of them. Currently I listen at times to Tammy Bruce when EL RUSHBO is gone.

99 posted on 04/23/2012 10:19:09 AM PDT by Digger (If RINO is your selection then failure is your election)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

It’s exactly why I am listening to Wilkow today on Sirius.


100 posted on 04/23/2012 10:19:18 AM PDT by b4its2late (Patience is not a virtue, it is a waste of time.)
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