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Mary Matalin on Rush today - and is she off base? (Stunned)
4-23-2012 | Self

Posted on 04/23/2012 9:30:05 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright

FREEPER COMMENTS REQUESTED: Is it just me, or is Mary Matalin way off base today with her entire theme for the show (guest hosting for Rush). Now I normally like her work tremendously, but her idea that we should search for "virtue" in government and for "virtuous people" to be in government seems extremely naive.

The only virtue in government is its limit. We will never get a government full of virtuous people. By definition, government is power and virtuous people are not drawn to that. Our Founders knew that. This is why they insisted on LIMITED government. Wake up Mary!


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1 posted on 04/23/2012 9:30:12 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: C. Edmund Wright

She has to be an idiot to live with Carville.


2 posted on 04/23/2012 9:33:45 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I heard her talk and said WTF???

Listening to FNC now.


3 posted on 04/23/2012 9:35:41 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1189 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: C. Edmund Wright

She also said one of her kids is a liberal and the other conservative... so what? is that the info i want to hear from a sub on Rush? WE tune in to hear waht RUSH has to say not what others have to say. That’s why we shut her off. We turn on faithfully every day to hear our Hero...Rush Limbaugh. No one can fill in for Rush...no one!


4 posted on 04/23/2012 9:35:44 AM PDT by cubreporter
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I couldn’t stand to hear her talk so I turned the radio off so I could focus on the more pleasant sound of my sump pump cycling.

Click MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM Click


5 posted on 04/23/2012 9:36:19 AM PDT by TSgt (The only reason I have one in the chamber at all times, is because it is impossible to have two in.)
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To: cubreporter

If one of her kids is a Lib, (probably the oldest), she FAILED as a parent.


6 posted on 04/23/2012 9:37:39 AM PDT by Mountain Mary ("We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors. We borrow it from our children" Native American P.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Unless it is Mark Styne, the guest hosts suck on Rush. Mark Davis was pimping for Milt on Thursday and Friday. Now Mary has Gillespie, the Romney hack, on as a guest in the first half hour. Blah.

I am not stunned.

7 posted on 04/23/2012 9:37:44 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

they are trying to repair the damage that Romney did....

I tuned out...

Romney is the long lost fraternal twin of Rodham, as in Hillary Rodham Clinton.


8 posted on 04/23/2012 9:37:58 AM PDT by dila813
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To: C. Edmund Wright

She is right in the fact that in order for our system to work it requires a level of what is called “public virtue”. Wikipedia calls it “civic virtue”. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civic_virtue

You have to have what you say as safeguards, but without public or civic virtue the system fails.


9 posted on 04/23/2012 9:38:05 AM PDT by Suz in AZ
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To: C. Edmund Wright; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; Gilbo_3; Impy; ...
Holy crap, this RINO is the best Rush could get today?

I wont be listening. Besides being a RINO she is very annoying to listen to, like fingernail's across a chalk board. I didnt like her 20 years ago and I don't like her now.
20 years ago Rush used to actually show up for work (frequently.)

10 posted on 04/23/2012 9:38:15 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I agree with her, I think. I’m not listening to the show. YOu can’t have scumbags in power. You have to have decent people. You can’t expect to have saints though. You need people with certain skills and that sometimes means you need to make compromises.


11 posted on 04/23/2012 9:38:34 AM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: Lazlo in PA

Mary is an establishment Republican, a big Mittens supporter.

She is in no way a Conservative.


12 posted on 04/23/2012 9:38:43 AM PDT by Mountain Mary ("We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors. We borrow it from our children" Native American P.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Didn’t Milton Friedman say something like, ‘we should work toward a system where bad people are forced to do the right thing.’

Her appeal to virtuousness is naive.


13 posted on 04/23/2012 9:38:58 AM PDT by Track9 ("Strength through peace.. oh wait, I mean.." Mit Romney)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

800-282-2882


14 posted on 04/23/2012 9:39:27 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Central belief of the Left is that centralized political power makes sense. If you get the best people (the most "virtuous" people) in charge of everything, then you can create heaven on earth.

Conservatives should NEVER talk like that.

15 posted on 04/23/2012 9:41:03 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Like Emmett Till, Trayvon Martin has become simply a stick with which to beat Whites.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Yep, I stopped listening to her when she married that disgusting POS. One of them is a poser and I’ve always suspected it was her. Carville is always mean, nasty, vicious, and dishonest. I don’t think it’s possible she could live with him and not discuss politics at all. The alternative then is she agrees with him privately but can’t publically since her schtick has been making money off of conservatives.


16 posted on 04/23/2012 9:41:32 AM PDT by MtBaldy (If Obama is the answer, it must have been a really stupid question)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
MM’s contribution to the conservative agenda is equivalent to what green tea, strained through a used sweat sock contributes to a six course meal.
17 posted on 04/23/2012 9:41:32 AM PDT by varon (The Patriots stand watch!)
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To: null and void; SWAMPSNIPER

I lasted about 5 minutes.


18 posted on 04/23/2012 9:42:00 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

somebody in that house is a double agent...

and I do not think it is corporal cueball carville.


19 posted on 04/23/2012 9:42:09 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Virtue and Gov’t have as much in common as a Haddock and a cowboy hat.

Benjamin Franklin, was perhaps the first International Playboy. The joke at the time was that perhaps he really was the ‘Father of the nation”. No one questions his wisdom, no one questions his value as a statesman - but he made Pres. Clinton look like a choirboy in comparison.


20 posted on 04/23/2012 9:42:48 AM PDT by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Turned it off after 10 short minutes.


21 posted on 04/23/2012 9:43:30 AM PDT by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

The fact she married CarVILE says t all for me, same with Ann, she dated Bill Maher, tells me everything I need to know about them both. I didn’t even bother to turn the radio on knowing whe would be there.


22 posted on 04/23/2012 9:43:33 AM PDT by stockpirate (Romney, Ann Coulter & our ruling republican SOCIALISTelites, are Big Government socialists,)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

The Founders also INSISTED on virtue. If you think they thought government was nothing but naked power and that they were not interested in virtue, only in naked power limiting naked power then no wonder you hated Santorum’s guts.

Will the government ever be “full of virtuous people.” No. But that doesn’t mean virtue has no place.

See, it takes virtue to adhere to a limited-government constitution. Deny a role to virtue and you instantaneously guarantee that the Constitution, with its limits on power,
won’t
be
respected
or
adhered
to.


23 posted on 04/23/2012 9:43:35 AM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: FreeAtlanta

I lasted about 5 minutes too. Poor guest host decision.


24 posted on 04/23/2012 9:43:47 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, we'll just grow algae.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

She is so utterly boring that I turned her off in order to enjoy the blessed sound of silence.


25 posted on 04/23/2012 9:44:02 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
"The only virtue in government is its limit. We will never get a government full of virtuous people."

We have concentrated so much power in Washington that no matter how virtuous a pol is when he arrives, they are soon corrupted. Political power corrupts everything and everyone it touches.

26 posted on 04/23/2012 9:45:09 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: C. Edmund Wright

She’s still talking about the need for virtue in politics.
WTH?

Rush’s scheduler has probably just been fired.


27 posted on 04/23/2012 9:45:24 AM PDT by Mountain Mary ("We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors. We borrow it from our children" Native American P.)
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To: Lazlo in PA
I don't really care for Styne. With him I last about 45 minutes.

Mark Levin would be great. We also have a guy on in the morning here in Atlanta - Rob Johnson - who would be great. I honestly think Rush gets lousy fill-ins so we will miss him even more.

28 posted on 04/23/2012 9:45:34 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: FreeAtlanta

LOL.
I lasted 5 more than you!


29 posted on 04/23/2012 9:45:56 AM PDT by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: FreeAtlanta
I lasted about 5 minutes

Sadly me too. I have never heard her and I wasn't getting what she was trying to convey so I left.
30 posted on 04/23/2012 9:46:15 AM PDT by freebird5850 (Just don't have a tagline today. This administration makes me quite sad.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Wow! I listened for the first 5 minutes myself and thought it was just me. Thanks for sharing in my pain. My first few thoughts were:

1) Is Rush trying to kill off his audience to be more “fair” to other talk show hosts?
2) “Virtue?” - Really? $4 gas! Economy about to crash again! Fast and Furious cover-up! GSA “government watchdog” stealing from all of us! Impending race war in Florida! etc.!!! And we are going to talk about virtue???

I agree, she seems like a nice woman, but she is also the epitome of E-GOP. RINO’s play politics like it’s a badminton match. DEMS/LIBS play it like it’s a MMA bout to the death.

Frankly, I think the RINO’s intentionally want to lose. I have no idea why, but there can’t be any other reason for their stupid actions. With Mitt as the nominee, it’s a sure loss for the R’s in the fall. Can’t I at least listen to Rush for a sliver of relief!?!?!?

COÑO!!!!!!


31 posted on 04/23/2012 9:46:43 AM PDT by juan_galt (De oppresso liber - Quien es Juan Galt?)
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To: FreeAtlanta

It’s really disgusting, what was Rush thinking?


32 posted on 04/23/2012 9:47:24 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Wow! I listened for the first 5 minutes myself and thought it was just me. Thanks for sharing in my pain. My first few thoughts were:

1) Is Rush trying to kill off his audience to be more “fair” to other talk show hosts?
2) “Virtue?” - Really? $4 gas! Economy about to crash again! Fast and Furious cover-up! GSA “government watchdog” stealing from all of us! Impending race war in Florida! etc.!!! And we are going to talk about virtue???

I agree, she seems like a nice woman, but she is also the epitome of E-GOP. RINO’s play politics like it’s a badminton match. DEMS/LIBS play it like it’s a MMA bout to the death.

Frankly, I think the RINO’s intentionally want to lose. I have no idea why, but there can’t be any other reason for their stupid actions. With Mitt as the nominee, it’s a sure loss for the R’s in the fall. Can’t I at least listen to Rush for a sliver of relief!?!?!?

COÑO!!!!!!


33 posted on 04/23/2012 9:47:32 AM PDT by juan_galt (De oppresso liber - Quien es Juan Galt?)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I wasn’t impressed.


34 posted on 04/23/2012 9:48:29 AM PDT by madison10
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To: FreeAtlanta

She is absolutely brutal. There is only one guest host worth a damn: STEYN. I guess it’ll be music radio this afternoon.


35 posted on 04/23/2012 9:48:32 AM PDT by navybrat18
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To: C. Edmund Wright
I can't listen to the show. But there is honor and danger in what I have read in this thread so far.

Honor: We wish we could find noble and patriotic citizens of the highest caliber, determined to honoring the intent and letter of the constitution for the near and far future of our nation. But you don't find these types of citizens cohorting and schmoozing with the likes of todays politicians. How many of us would trust the average politician to park our car? Noble Americans, properly qualified to lead our country, do not want to stoop to the level of politics. They will not make the sacrifices and put their families through what they must to do the job.

Danger: Who gets to decide what “virtuous” means when we start soliciting leadership? The left is far better than the right at defining what is “good” in a person and for America. Would the left agree that George W. was virtuous? I bet not. What about Bill Clinton? In the end, the very picture of what a “virtuous” character would look like would be defined for America by the left. It would not have anything to do with honesty, core values, constitutional adherence, manners, experience, etc. The left would define “virtuous” to mean a leader that is looking out for the poor and minorities, wants to give peace a chance, is fair, and listens to the people. A virtuous person would come to equal a liberal or democrat.

Nothing will have changed but the label.

36 posted on 04/23/2012 9:48:39 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (With regards to the GOP: I am prodisestablishmentarianistic!)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
I haven't trusted her since she started dating and then married that a$$hole Carville. Ya' see, I wouldn't even be in the same room with that worthless ba$tard, and she even married him and shared her bed with him.

The way I see it is that she was getting a paycheck from the "right," and didn't want to lose it . . . since she was pretending for years to be one of us.

Anyone who would share a room, house, or bed with someone as vile as Carville HAS TO BE A LIBERAL!

37 posted on 04/23/2012 9:48:49 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: C. Edmund Wright
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ....

When I first tuned in I thought it was a soundbite of Ruth Buzzy Ginsberg.

No thanks...wish Rush could of done better than MM.

38 posted on 04/23/2012 9:49:07 AM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Wow! I listened for the first 5 minutes myself and thought it was just me. Thanks for sharing in my pain. My first few thoughts were:

1) Is Rush trying to kill off his audience to be more “fair” to other talk show hosts?
2) “Virtue?” - Really? $4 gas! Economy about to crash again! Fast and Furious cover-up! GSA “government watchdog” stealing from all of us! Impending race war in Florida! etc.!!! And we are going to talk about virtue???

I agree, she seems like a nice woman, but she is also the epitome of E-GOP. RINO’s play politics like it’s a badminton match. DEMS/LIBS play it like it’s a MMA bout to the death.

Frankly, I think the RINO’s intentionally want to lose. I have no idea why, but there can’t be any other reason for their stupid actions. With Mitt as the nominee, it’s a sure loss for the R’s in the fall. Can’t I at least listen to Rush for a sliver of relief!?!?!?


39 posted on 04/23/2012 9:49:26 AM PDT by juan_galt (De oppresso liber - Quien es Juan Galt?)
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To: mamelukesabre

Maybe the virtue we need in politicians is that of being humble, as in not proud or arrogant. Politicians should know first & foremost that they 1) don’t have all the answers & 2) can never make the world perfect.

If more politicians understood those two things we wouldn’t have half the problems we have today!


40 posted on 04/23/2012 9:49:44 AM PDT by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: ClearCase_guy
So what do you want? You want people who aren't virtuous in government? No thanks; since we have to have some government, I'd rather have decent normal kind Christian people who are trying to do their best and serve God, than career slime.
41 posted on 04/23/2012 9:49:55 AM PDT by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Maybe it's just me, but it seems like rush has been taking more and more time off from the show. This coupled with his pathetic choices for fill-ins has me scratching my head and saying: “WTF?”

I can't quite explain it, but Rush almost seems to be getting board with the show. Has he made it through an entire month without having to day time off? Maybe he has, but it just doesn't seem like it.

I guess this is why I'm Levin is becoming my “go to” show the past few months. Sad.

42 posted on 04/23/2012 9:50:13 AM PDT by Artcore
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Geees! It's like listening to paint dry!
43 posted on 04/23/2012 9:50:47 AM PDT by ryan71
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

I gave her five minutes of my time that I’ll never get back.

When she said was having one of the most virtuous people in Washington as a guest...ED ROLLINS??????

I threw up a little and shut off my radio.


44 posted on 04/23/2012 9:51:36 AM PDT by RetSignman (You show Him your plan and He'll show you His.)
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To: laweeks

I just Tweeted Rush, someone must have twisted his arm really hard!


45 posted on 04/23/2012 9:52:14 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

A caller is fawning over her for sending him a thank you note in 1992. And she’s slobbering over Krispie Kreme Christie. Now she is predicting that Mittens will win by 7%.

Is she on drugs or is this a bad SNL skit?

Oh, I get it. It’s one of Rush’s parodies.


46 posted on 04/23/2012 9:52:28 AM PDT by Mountain Mary ("We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors. We borrow it from our children" Native American P.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Rush ALWAYS did have a soft spot for ALL of the Bushies!


47 posted on 04/23/2012 9:52:42 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

The callers don’t even sound legit.


48 posted on 04/23/2012 9:53:57 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

The game must go on for Mary and James. She is really boring. What happened to Hedgecock? He was the best sub.


49 posted on 04/23/2012 9:54:35 AM PDT by mom.mom
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I agree. I like Mary, but “virtuous people” in government?
Yikes.. Gimme a break. Government only attracts the scum of the earth. It’s why Democrats love it so much.
It’s why government is their god.


50 posted on 04/23/2012 9:54:35 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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